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Glazius posted:I mean, by minimum connection of rear end in a top hat principle, we could say that the hospital is taking in all these intractable patients so they have a bunch of people who can suddenly take a turn for the worse if a certain matching organ is needed for transplant. I didn't know this hospital was owned by the Chinese goverment.
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 Instead of figuring out the issue with our deceased patient, we decided to spend the last part mostly trying to resolve the mystery relating to that young woman that was hiding in the records room. With a little help from a sick girl named Haruka, who, incidentally, aspires to be a singer, it turned out that the mystery person was none other than Ueshima Saya, a popular TV and music idol. She is suffering from some sort of a kindey disease and is not exactly in the best of moods. Her bad mood was at least partially explained when we met Misuzu, Saya's manager, who doesn't seem to be particularly nice. Based on our interviews so far, it seems that Dr. Mochizuki is also not the nicest person around, and is not generally liked by the staff. Most notably, nurse Sawa, who seems to like Dr. Akechi (who we finally met briefy) a lot more! Finally, we had a brief chat with said nurse Sawa, but nothing much new was revealed, other than whe seems to have slipped up a bit and almost started to talk about something that happened in a kidney transplant surgery from a few days ago. Well, even though he does not seem to be directly involved in the death of our intractable patient, I guess we should have a chat with Dr. Akechi anyway, so let's head over to his office...      Talk: "About the case".   Well, ok then. Talk: "About accepting the intractable patients".       Ok, now I want everybody to get read for a few minutes of 100% pure undiluted Murakami. Are you ready? Ok. Talk: "About kidney transplants". Yes. He just said it. Ok, I know this sounds horifically stupid, but actually, it's a bit more understandable in the Japanese original. The game is actually using English words "donor" and "recipient" here, so it's possible that a Japanese person playing this game wouldn't know them, if they aren't proficient in English. However, this is kind of a situation where the things are leaking into the characterisation of the main character that shouldn't--in the job that he is doing, HE should be familiar with these words, even if the player isn't. Somehow, this never seemed to be an issue with Tendo games. They simply left it up to the player to find out more if they cared to. Anyway, rant over. Well, here we are in luck, because from the first Tendo game we already know all that we need to know about HLA! Ok, we got through it! Let's now get back to interesting stuff. Talk: "About the transplant surgery from a few days ago".   This is generally true, as in cases where a donor is not a relative, typically, the identity of the donor and other similar information is not shared with the recipient, other than most basic facts.      Well, this is certainly an interesting guy. Although we didn't learn much from him other than a few tidbits regarding that transplant surgery from "a few days ago". I think a picture is starting to form here... and it's making me wonder about the relative timing of the intractable patient's death and the kidney transplant surgery... could it be that the deceased's kidneys were used for the transplant here? I mean this is not necessarily an issue, depending on other circumstances, but... In any case, that concludes our first round of interviews, so let's step outside for a bit and gather our thoughts.        Even though he's technically not one of the "three people", we can still go to Mochizuki's office...  ...but he's not here anyway. All right, let's try to talk to Kitagawa (the surgeon) first. He should be in the surgical staff room.  We'll find him later. For now, let's go to our real first victim, Dr. Kiba.  Talk: "About the case".      Is this guy under the influence of controlled substances right now? Seems like the right time to...    Here is our first choice. Actually this is one of those active phases where each choice is either a loop or a success, so it's not possible to fail. So let me take this opportunity to mention how this game makes a big deal out of active phase and then proceeds to turn it into a joke by either not using it at all (chapter 3), or by making it almost impossible to fail (chapter 2). So far only in chapter 1 it seems to me that it was used properly (but again that one is based on a book so they had the source material to draw upon). Incidentally, same goes for A.I., which is supposed to be this big thing but then proceeds either to not give any results (chapter 2), or to give a result which could have been obtained in any number of ways (chapter 3). I don't know what was their goal here really. It almost feels (and I think it's a correct feeling) that they were forced to do a movie/book tie-in but then just weren't really sure what to do for the other three cases... so they made chapter 2 which was a repeat of chapter 1 and chapter 3 which is more like an Ace Attorney case than anything belonging in this game. Ok, another rant over. Obviously we'll pick option 2 first, because... well, what else?   I would like to know what kind of surgery was performed on Murakami's brain, however. Don't encourage him, please. The other things that bugs me about the active phase is that most of the "wrong" options are silly like this and there is no real thinking needed to even see which is the right option (again, except for the first case). Anyway, we have looped around. Let's now try the third option.   Unfortunately, as much fun this would have been, it's actually not true and the only way forward is to choose the correct option, the first.   This is also another thing that annoys me about active phase... it seems to always revolve around this kind of thing--why didn't anybody else present notice anything--but that line of questioning rarely seems to amount to much in the end.  Another choice, another set of three random accusations for which we have no real basis in anything we've hear so far (although to be fair, that is part of the point of the active phase). Either way, all three choice lead directy to success, so let's just pick the middle one.     So he does remember? And this is actually the end of the active phase... it's a bit random.   Wait, what? but he told to us a completely opposite thing! He leaves.   As interesting as this sounds to pursue, we should gather more information for now. So, our next stop is nurse Sawa. She is still hanging about on the roof.  Talk: "About the case".  Push the button!   This active phase follows the same pattern, so in the first choice we either loop or go forward. Let's start with the last option.   And we loop back, so let's select option 2 (which is a bit stupid, but...) This doesn't even make sense really. Me either, nurse Sawa, me either. Ok, now I get it. But that was some drat convoluted logic and I still don't see why wanting to help the patient as efficiently as possible would be a bad thing!? Wait, we've taken a turn again...   Ok that was actually pretty dumb. So let's finally choose the first option, that is to say, let's randomly accuse her of a murder. Because that's what we do.    Again like before all three options lead to immediate success. So let's just pick the middle one. A response as appropriate as ever to these dialogues.    And again, abruptly, we're done with the active phase.     Actually, these people are pretty bad at keeping their secrets...   She leaves.  We still have Dr. Kitagawa to speak with, but you know, let's take a break for all this hard work and go have a chat with Haruka!  Oh, he's actually here!  Why the dour face, Dr. Kitagawa?   In another game, I would say this is an interesting information as it matches with what seems to have happened with "the intractable". But here it could just be a useless red herring.  Talk: "About Haruka".     Speaking of which... Talk: "About Ueshima Saya".         We get a CD!   Uh, I think nobody told here that you shouldn't say stuff like that when you're in a hospital...  Now we can head off to the surgical staff room and have our conversation with Kitagawa.  Talk: "About the case".     Let's start from the top this time. Next up: option number two! And finally the correct option three.      The second choice. All options lead to success, and actually, they are all more or less the same in the end, despite sounding different. So let's pick the first.       Well. That's all to be heard here. So, let's step out for a bit and review the situation.        Well, as always, that's for next time. This seems to have been one of those episodes in which there is much running around, but maybe not so much useful information gained. But, don't worry, next episode will have quite a lot going on in it! Next time on Team Batista: Our investigation goes to hell in a handbasket!
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Kitagawa is Haruka's father, or uncle, or is planning her imminent death. Someone allowed the patient to die so that their organs could be transplanted. The kidneys may be a red herring, there's two of those. I bet it's the heart, or something else that can only be transplanted after death.
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Feb 12, 2018 23:00
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ACTIVE PHASE -gets absolutely nothing out of it Repeat three times What was the point of this?
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Feb 12, 2018 23:16
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Someone should photoshop Akechi from Persona 5 over Dr Akechi's face. Just for kicks. Also calling it now, kid dies in tragic operation room accident, guilt causes someone to spill the beans.
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We're probably going to get so kicked out of this hospital if we screw up this next active phase.
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I'm sure the manager will be happy to let Mishizuma and Murakami see Saya when she hears about how it's for a hospitalized little girl, and won't brush them off at all!
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Blaze Dragon posted:ACTIVE PHASE To be honest, I was really of half a mind to only leave in all the other conversations and to simply just summarise the active phase bits, since they, as you say, quite literally have no point and bring in absolutely no new information. Sometimes I feel that this game's authors are to an extent even misunderstanding their own game mechanics--the active phase is a thing that does actually come from the book, but I think that they at least partially missed the point of it; and you can see this if you check out the active phase sections in the first case, which play out quite a bit better, because they are based on the content from the said book! But, luckily, the next part of the game should be much more evenful.
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Despite the game's flaws, I'm impressed by the relative degree of medical accuracy in this case (well, in some aspects of it). A lot of fiction that depicts transplants just treats them as if you get a brand new organ with no problems aside from maybe having to take some medication. But in reality, even with immunosuppressive therapy, a transplant is usually rejected within about 5-10 years, depending on the organ. It's unusual for a story to address that directly. The part of the organ transplant process where you're waiting for a donor makes for better drama than the part where you've already got the new organ and you're getting constant tests to monitor its function and check for signs of impending failure, I guess.
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I think this is supposed to show the weakness of Active Phase where people can basically escape our interrogation by giving us the runaround.
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 Last time, we managed to finish a bunch of active phase interviews. Not a whole lot was learned other than there seem to be some things that the chief of surgery, Dr. Mochizuki is apparently attempting to hide from us (in a hilariously unsubtle way). Having that in mind, we've decided to go and have a chat with the hospital director. But actually, he is in the director's office, so that's where we'll go! Coming into his office, we find a conversation already in progress...      Guess we've been found out.  Well, we might as well go direct. It's a valid strategy.   I guess it's our cue to...    The pattern is still the same, that all wrong options simply loop around, so we'll start with the bottom.    Next up: the second option.    Finally, the correct option is, of course, option 1.    In, finally, a bit of departure, the last (stupid) option in this one leads to failure. Option 2, however, leads to a loop, so let's check that out.  And finally the correct option in this second and last choice is the first.    As abruptly as ever, the active phase is, with this, finished.       So, let's move over to the CT scan room!   So, we're back one last time doing the scanning. Obviously with all that's been going on, we should proabably start by looking at the patient's kidneys...  Right about here.  But...       I'm a bit curious here. When exactly did the patient sign this? Certainly not as he was dying because he was basically unconscious then. So did somebody get him to sign this earlier, or what exactly happened? Generally, what exactly are they doing here? Harvesting organs for VIP patients to use? Or sometehing else? Speaking of which, as you might know, in may parts of the world, organ donations are an area that's strictly regulated by laws, specifically to keep the whole process fair and to prevent the kind of situation where a rich person could "buy" an organ from a living donor. Even donations from family members are usually regulated, e.g. in a sense that if you need for example a kidney you couldn't marry somebody who would then immediately donate an organ for you (as your now-spouse). This kind of scenario would certainly also be considered illegal. However, such laws don't exist everyhwere, which then gives rise to a so-called "transplant tourism". E.g. in Iran, there are no such laws, which leads exactly to the situations where poor people sell their organs to the rich. Until recently (2008), it was also the case in Philippines, where even the government itself promoted travel packages for transplantations. Anyway, let's continue.      Sometimes I wonder... as investigators, shouldn't they have some kind of "clearance" level for these kinds of situations? I mean, even to an outsider this would look like a transplant where the question about what kind of consent was given and who gave it would be more than appropriate questions to ask, based on the evidence uncovered so far. Well, you know, we do still have that document that allows us to see other people's information... so we'll show that again. But, before anything can happen...  ...Shiratori pops up again!                But, of course, he doesn't!     Either way, it seems like we have no choice in the matter here... Yeah, this didn't go in a good direction. Nevertheless, the next morning we find ourselves back in our office...     Talk: "Why did you stop the investigation?".   Sound of beeping.  Yes, this thing again.    Oh, stop it already.   Patient chart get!         And here we'll stop for now. Well then, compared to the last part, this was positively action packed, wasn't it! The idea to investigate from the other side is not a bad one, and if it's indeed a case of organ trafficking, I wonder how deep does the rabbit hole go then? Specifically, there are characters in this case loitering about (such as Haruka or Saya's manager, or even Saya), whose purpose in this plot isn't yet completely clear. Either way, next time, we'll catch up with some old (or, in Murakami's case, new) friends!
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Feb 18, 2018 20:40
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Oh I like this, going back to the first hospital. That's cool!
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I really like this! Until now, Shiratori's kinda been our safety net. He's been, like Murakami says, a hero- unbeatable, one step ahead every time. But here we're shown that he's not all powerful and that even he has to bend to authority, even if it's a potentially corrupt authority. It humanizes him more, showing him as more than just the snarky, full of himself guy we've seen until now. We also face real resistance in Chief Uehara along with Mochizuki, stonewalling both our investigation and even our boss, while forcing Mizushima off the case, showing real potential consequences for disobeying (being fired) which adds weight and stakes to this. This isn't, like the first three cases, a matter of "something bad's happened and we need to figure it out" it's a case of "something is still very actively, knowingly going on and it's clear that there are powers at work trying to keep this from coming to light." It feels like we the player and the characters are now working against an active opposition rather than a more passive event. Sure Case 3 had stuff currently going on but until the end the Shaman was just obstinate, she didn't seem to be actively working against us in regards to a specific crime. This is happening right in the middle of things and is a fresh, current issue and could have long-reaching implications if it's not stopped. I'm really impressed by this update, is what I'm saying
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Shoeless posted:I really like this! Until now, Shiratori's kinda been our safety net. He's been, like Murakami says, a hero- unbeatable, one step ahead every time. But here we're shown that he's not all powerful and that even he has to bend to authority, even if it's a potentially corrupt authority. It humanizes him more, showing him as more than just the snarky, full of himself guy we've seen until now. We also face real resistance in Chief Uehara along with Mochizuki, stonewalling both our investigation and even our boss, while forcing Mizushima off the case, showing real potential consequences for disobeying (being fired) which adds weight and stakes to this. This isn't, like the first three cases, a matter of "something bad's happened and we need to figure it out" it's a case of "something is still very actively, knowingly going on and it's clear that there are powers at work trying to keep this from coming to light." It feels like we the player and the characters are now working against an active opposition rather than a more passive event. Sure Case 3 had stuff currently going on but until the end the Shaman was just obstinate, she didn't seem to be actively working against us in regards to a specific crime. This is happening right in the middle of things and is a fresh, current issue and could have long-reaching implications if it's not stopped. Yes, it seems like we're actually dealing with something bigger than a murderous doctor, or doctors hiding debilitating diseases, or someone attempting to cover up an environmental disaster. I wonder if Murakami will piss off the wrong doctor and end up in a seedy hotel in a tub full of ice missing some vital organs...
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Dariusknight posted:Yes, it seems like we're actually dealing with something bigger than a murderous doctor, or doctors hiding debilitating diseases, or someone attempting to cover up an environmental disaster. I wonder if Murakami will piss off the wrong doctor and end up in a seedy hotel in a tub full of ice missing some vital organs... "It's okay everyone, they only took my brain! I wasn't using it much anyway."
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I suppose that avoids having to introduce even more new personnel for the last case but still have it span multiple hospitals.
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I wonder if Shiratori sent us in to investigate because he knew we’d screw up, bumble around, piss everyone off, and make lots of noise. Kind of like a distraction so people weren’t paying attention to the research he was doing to uncover an organ harvesting ring, or whatever is going on here? Then when we actually found the missing kidneys he got an extra bonus and was surprised at how well we did? If so I like it, kind of like the game is acknowledging the fact that Murakami is a total idiot!
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 Last time, things happened! First, we did an active phase with Dr. Mochizuki, who really seems to have some problem with us. This didn't result in any big new knowledge, but it did result in sort of "tricking" him to consent to an A.I. scan of the deceased intractable patient. This, on the other hand, revealed some missing parts, namely kidneys. After some reluctance, Mochizuki admitted that they have been transplanted already to someone, but that according to him everything is above board as all consent forms have been signed by the relevant people. Then, even Shiratori popped up suddenly, but before we could do anything more, Uehara also showed up and ordered us to leave, saying that he has orders "from above" to stop this investigation. After returning to our office, Shiratori spent some time moping around, but then told us to go and visit Dr. Taguchi at Tōjō University Hospital, as it's from there, as it turns out, where the intractable patient was originally transferred from! And so, Murakami finds himself in Dr. Taguchi's office for indefinite complaints! What could possibly go wrong!       In order to resolve the misunderstanding, we should show him the patient chart to get the conversation going.  What. Talk: "About Dr. Taguchi".   So, yeah, remember that likening stuff? No, me either, yet another one of the things that this game built up only to never do anything with it! Although, again, it is a thing that does exist in the book! In the book, this likening stuff is something Taguchi does before Shiratori even shows up on the scene--Shiratori only comes to investigate the case when Taguchi is unable to solve it. Ok, that's enough idle chat for now... let's find out the real story here Talk: "About the patient who was transferred to Kagawa Hospital".  Talk: "About Kagawa General Hospital".     Well, that just came out in a jumble...    So we got a keychain with golden slippers! Due to some old legends, the golden slippers like these are considered a bit of a good luck charm in Japan. Here is a picture of a real charm, so you can see better what they look like:     Ah, yes, the thing that caused the one last death in the Batista Team case...  Yes. The game found a way to squeeze in another one of those case review things that we have to do periodically. But this time, it seems, Taguchi is the only person available to do it with. Let's try to get through it quickly. Yes, but at what price... I wish the game wouldn't do these reviews because they are simply annoying and (usually) don't bring any new information.    Apparently, it's none other than our other friend, Dr. Kakitani! Also, Taguchi's nickname in the book is Guchi, which means grumble in Japanese (愚痴), as a reference to his indefinite complaints office--hence Dr. Grumble.   Well, let's see what he can tell us. First, though... Talk: "About Dr. Kakitani".  Ok, now the real stuff. Talk: "About the patient who was transferred from Tōjō Hospital".  Yes! The patient actually has a name! Haematopoietic stem cells, or HSC (which reside in the bone marrow) are those that are responsible for production of new blood cells, through a process known as haematopoiesis. In a healthy adult about 100,000,000,000 to 1,000,000,000,000 new blood cells are produced every day in this manner. In addition, HSC are self-renewing, thus the stem cells themselves are never depleted through this process. All the different kinds of blood cells are produced from HCS, and because there is not a sufficient number of unpronounceable words in this paragraph, I will tell you that the part of this process which produces thrombocytes (platelets) is called megakaryocytopoiesis. So there.  Talk: "About Kagawa General Hospital".   That's all we can get this way. To continue, we need to show him the chart of the patient from Kagawa Hospital.   Maybe it's time to use the... oh wait, it's fake, isn't it. I really don't get it why the game always feels the need to tell us which item to use? I mean, it's kind of obvious, isn't it, it's not like we have tons of different items anyway? Show the (fake) permit. As a nitpick... wouldn't this mean that Taguchi would need to leave the room, since he technically doesn't have the authority to hear this?    Perhaps... dare I say it... by selling his kidney? But that would mean that Kagawa Hospital has an organised organ trafficking thing going, which would be...  He leaves. Well. The game certainly still seems to be in the "happening" mode. We are learning new stuff left and right... and this update is not even half done yet!     In the books Taguchi is mostly constantly annoyed with Shiratori, because Shiratori keeps teasing him about everything (and also putting him in various situations like active phase, without telling him everything).  And now it's going to get annoying for a bit...   Luckily, he's just as easily distracted as a typical five year old. The name Shouta (翔太) contains the character 翔 which means, "to fly". And, it's time to return back to our office and report to Shiratori...    Ha ha, the game actually asks us to choose one of the three here. In fact, I'll just spoil it now--we need to visit all three of them! So the choice only impacts one sentence of dialogue that follows it! Therefore, here are all three sentences: That's all. Now we go on normally. Surprisingly, he actualy figured it out without anybody prompting him! So, let's head over back to Kagawa, under false pretences.  Unfortunately...   Uh-oh...    Uehara leaves. Actually, we'll go and see Haruka, but before that, let's make a quick stop at the records room, because there are a couple of new items to read there...  RENAL FAILURE A state in which the function of the kidneys (filtration, reabsorption and endocrine function) is reduced. In the late stage, dyalisis or renal transplantation is necessary to avoid fatal uremia. Symptoms of renal failure are: edema, hyperlipidemia, weight loss, hypertension and anaemia. HUMAN LEUKOCYTE ANTIGEN (HLA) A protein that exists on the surface of the cells, which makes it possible to distinguish the cells which belong to a particular body from those that don't. It is useful when fighting against viruses, bacteria, etc., but it can cause tissue to be rejected when transplanting. Therefore, it's desirable to have a high level of HLA match when doing a transplantation. Reabsorption in kidneys is removing some useful parts from the fluid before a more concentrated urine is formed and hyperlipidemia means increased content of fats in blood. The rest of the stuff I think was already mentioned at one time or another. Now, let's go and visit Haruka.   Wait, you're not Haruka... Well, I guess it's time to meet another new character in this case!     Well, let's see what kind of information we can hear from him. Talk: "About Takayuki".     Well... this is the second time we've heard of a patient with money problems today... let's ask a few more questions. Talk: "About Haruka".    Uh-oh. I can see a pattern here... and it's not a good one. Talk: "About Kagawa Hospital".  Yeah, I'll be honest with you, I'm not sure what Haruka's survivability prospects are at this point. As we already know from Tendo, this is true. As for family members, the best possible HLA match is normally from a sibling. But from parents, not so much. No, keep going, this is useful information! We are literally suffering from an information overload at this point in the game. Nevertheless, we do have more people to visit while "undercover". Next stop is Saya's VIP room!  Oh, god, not her.       Nice.  Yes, we are now doing fetch quests. But this one is not a problem since it gives us a chance to talk to Akechi, so...    Oh? What could this possibly be about? Talk: "About the death of the intractable patient".         This is getting more interesting by the minute. Talk: "About the case from five months ago".            I don't really want to say it, but I think we know who is being prepared to be Saya's donor...      I've already been commenting on this, but I almost can't believe the current pace of this story! It's been two whole updates with no useless running around! What has happened to this game? Also, it almost feels like I'm not even certain that all the characters will survive to the end of this case (I don't actually know, I haven't yet played that far)! Certainly, Haruka is being prepared to become the donor for Saya, but it's not really clear who from the medical personnel might be involved in this operation... Ah well, we're only just a bit over halway done with this case, so there is still fair bit to go... so I guess, we'll see.
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 And has it just been forever, or did the Tojo doctors have some sprites we didn't see in Case 1?
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It'd have been really great if the Tojo doctors had entirely different sprites for this section because Murakami imagined them completely wrong.
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tomanton posted:
Yeah, Taguchi has a couple of expressions we didn't see back then (mostly I guess because he was in the background of the case and not the primary investigator, so to speak).
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Wow, this is just... wow! This is getting really intense! I'm a little confused about Haruka probably ending up being the donor. I mean, she would probably do it, let's be honest, but she doesn't seem to know about it. So like, did her father have her transferred here so that he'd be the one receiving the money? I'd rather not believe that but I don't know what else would make sense. I thought it was going to be Haruka's dad signing up to be the donor, selling his organs to continue to pay for Haruka's treatment, but he's not checked in so... yeah. The game's gotten really good!
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It might be possible that whatever deals are going down are happening at this hospital, rather than before. 1. You get a really good kidney surgeon and plug him on tv constantly, so your hospital gets a reputation for kidney surgeries and important people who need those come to you. 2. Now that you've got a good reputation, you set up the acceptance of intractable patients that other hospitals would maybe rather not have. 3. Now you have a bunch of patients that could "take a turn for the worse" at any moment without too much suspicion and a occasionally some people in need of kidneys. If the records show compatibility, you can start trying to make a deal with the patient or the patient's guardians, since medical bills are expensive and intractable patients typically need a lot of expensive treatments. You can also play the "do something good with your actions, even if it means a sacrifice" card.
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given the insistence they have that 'of course they got permission', I have a sneaking suspicion that they're forging signatures so it's possible Haruka's father is in the complete dark - the hospital sacrificing the intractable patients for the reputation boost for VIP patients and keeping all the profits so to speak.
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Robindaybird posted:given the insistence they have that 'of course they got permission', I have a sneaking suspicion that they're forging signatures so it's possible Haruka's father is in the complete dark - the hospital sacrificing the intractable patients for the reputation boost for VIP patients and keeping all the profits so to speak. I think the same. There's no doubt that something super shady is going on in the background here, and everything seems to indicate it's that, and worse, that it is defended by important enough people to stop Shiratori in his tracks despite his usual attitude towards...anyone, really. It puts this chapter in a much darker light than the previous ones, where at least it was just one guy or a small group of people that did wrong things. Here we may have a genuine organ trafficking operation, one ran by the very people that control Japan's medical industry. And the only person that can stop it is an idiot who is beyond unqualified for his job. They're completely hosed.
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Blaze Dragon posted:And the only person that can stop it is an idiot who is beyond unqualified for his job. Well, they did put Chekov on the table with Mizushima, who is almost certainly not "sitting quietly and working at the office" so they're like ... 99% instead of 100% screwed? 
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Robindaybird posted:given the insistence they have that 'of course they got permission', I have a sneaking suspicion that they're forging signatures so it's possible Haruka's father is in the complete dark - the hospital sacrificing the intractable patients for the reputation boost for VIP patients and keeping all the profits so to speak. Ah, I hadn't thought about that. That's... that's simultaneously relieving to think about in comparison to the idea her own father would have done it to her, and more horrifying knowing that other patients may not have agreed to it.
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I suspected Akechi of being a bad guy who was "too good to be true," so consider me chuffed to see him actually really loving concerned about the possibility of people being coerced into an organ trade. This plotline is pretty good. 
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Shoeless posted:Ah, I hadn't thought about that. That's... that's simultaneously relieving to think about in comparison to the idea her own father would have done it to her, and more horrifying knowing that other patients may not have agreed to it.
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Maybe it's not so much forging the signature as giving false promises. Something like "we'll do our best for you, but you do have an incredibly tricky disease. How about signing this form to donate your kidneys if the worst happens, and if something should happen we'll wipe away your debt." The person thinks it's a way to spare their family debt if the worst should happen, not knowing their is already a recipient waiting.
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Feb 28, 2018 04:57
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Kitala posted:we'll wipe away your debt." Bring us the kidneys and wipe away the debt.
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Shoeless posted:Bring us the kidneys and wipe away the debt. There’s another reality where everyone has Parkinson’s.
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Kitala posted:There’s another reality where everyone has Parkinson’s. I'm still not convinced that this isn't that reality.
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It's an appropriate scope for a final case, at least.
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I think I'd like the mystery a lot better if it wasn't obvious who the donor was gonna be.
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Hey guys, sorry about a bit of a delay between updates! The next one should be posted tomorrow finally, and then after that we have exactly 3 left until the end of the game!
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I wonder how many people are going to get arrested this time.
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Mraagvpeine posted:I wonder how many people are going to get arrested this time. I'm hoping for 'absolutely everyone'.
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