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pgroce posted:that looks nothing like complicated alps thats topre capacitative switch
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The lightcycle one looks alright
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 i really want a 96-key keyboard, if only with instead of home or end, and standard lower left corner layout cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 11:28 on Feb 13, 2018 |
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Feb 13, 2018 11:25
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thing is these shits are massively expensive, its like $300-$600 for a decent one and even then you might have to wait, weeks, realistically months, for group buys to go down and poo poo, and probably even assemble it yourself (im a babby who has barely ever soldered electronics)
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well ideally a bit different layout with vertical homegroup between enter and numpad, lemme look it up
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cinci zoo sniper posted:thing is these shits are massively expensive, its like $300-$600 for a decent one and even then you might have to wait, weeks, realistically months, for group buys to go down and poo poo, and probably even assemble it yourself (im a babby who has barely ever soldered electronics) if it’s anything like the ergodox infinity the soldering is very easy, that one is all through-hole, even the tiny fiddly LEDs
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Cocoa Crispies posted:if it’s anything like the ergodox infinity the soldering is very easy, that one is all through-hole, even the tiny fiddly LEDs i just have grace of an elephant and <5 minutes of soldering experience in my life
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looks like it might be fast though to solder it and get used to 96-key as pictured above than to find whatever layout i think i am remembering
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cinci zoo sniper posted:i just have grace of an elephant and <5 minutes of soldering experience in my life same, and then I soldered a keeb
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Cocoa Crispies posted:same, and then I soldered a keeb might do it after i move i guess so i dont have to fly to latvia for a year-late keycap shipment or whatever. the idea on the layout i thought i vaguelly recalled was basically keycool 84 + numpad, but i still cant find anything evne remotely close to it so i guess standard 96 it is. not that the position of actual home block matters much, the only key i use of it, to a meaningful extent, is delete
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Stubbs posted:imo matias quiet clicks are much better than mx brown
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yes but are they as SMOOTH as topre?
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cinci zoo sniper posted:i just have grace of an elephant and <5 minutes of soldering experience in my life https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL926EC0F1F93C1837 you only need 1 and maybe 6 and https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL958FF32927823D12 in case you make any mistakes
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Soldering tutorials are such bullshit. I'll have my iron at like 400+C and it's literally impossible to melt rosin core without touching the iron directly to it. Like I can have desoldering braid touching a joint and leave that iron on there for an hour, and all that will happen is I'll burn my hand holding the copper.
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I don't understand how people can be bad at soldering, it's like the worlds easiest thing
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r u ready to WALK posted:I don't understand how people can be bad at soldering, it's like the worlds easiest thing some of us just have never had to do it, and it is logical to assume that you're bad at things you've never done
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sometimes you’re bad at things you have done. like posting!
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Salt Fish posted:Soldering tutorials are such bullshit. I'll have my iron at like 400+C and it's literally impossible to melt rosin core without touching the iron directly to it. Like I can have desoldering braid touching a joint and leave that iron on there for an hour, and all that will happen is I'll burn my hand holding the copper. Put flux on the braid first Also have a non-poo poo iron (maybe you do already, idk)
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we had to watch the Symbolics keyboards like hawks at Vintage Computer Festival: Pacific Northwest this weekend fortunately having five systems running and usable meant that people sat down and actually used the keyboards rather than just ogle them one person was taking macro pics though, and was gently reminded that there was cool stuff on the screen too
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watch the Pace soldering videos and you’ll become a pro in no time
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I can solder anything with enough beer and like 20 tries. I have a digital weller soldering station because I thought it would make it way easier than using my wood burner but gently caress no it's exactly the same difficulty.
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eschaton posted:we had to watch the Symbolics keyboards like hawks at Vintage Computer Festival: Pacific Northwest this weekend  in before RUBOUT
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polite chuckle @ the thought of people fetishizing a piece of technology to the point of forgetting its part of a system
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Cocoa Crispies posted:
were you there when we were projecting from S-Graphics on the big screen? that was cool.
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eschaton posted:were you there when we were projecting from S-Graphics on the big screen? that was cool. that’s from toorcamp 2016, the quaaludes guy brought his whole cluster and set up the “people’s computer history museum”
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cinci zoo sniper posted:
the problem with a good looking keyboard is that you're a huge dummy if you use anything other than an ugly ergonomic keyboard. anybody typing 100+wpm will get injured in less than a week using a regular keyboard, it's just the nature of your anatomy
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i assure you my anatomy is not natural.
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angry_keebler posted:the problem with a good looking keyboard is that you're a huge dummy if you use anything other than an ugly ergonomic keyboard. anybody typing 100+wpm will get injured in less than a week using a regular keyboard, it's just the nature of your anatomy its not a good looking keyboard question, it's a nice layout question. also source your quotes about grandpa speeds
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anyway, not to kill the discussion, what's cool+good in the world of ergoboards? could consider one if it doesn't look too pain in the rear end for videoshames
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cinci zoo sniper posted:anyway, not to kill the discussion, what's cool+good in the world of ergoboards? could consider one if it doesn't look too pain in the rear end for videoshames Dvorak only kinesis advantage.
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Salt Fish posted:Dvorak only kinesis advantage. sorry, this is colemak thread
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Using colemak or workman or whatever is fine, but the gap between Dvorak and qwerty is huge compared to the smaller gap between Dvorak and colemak. The most important thing is to be using a layout that anyone thought about for more than 2 minutes. The advantage of dvorak is that it has super wide compatibility which is why I recommend it over other non-qwerty-layouts. Yes, I realize that you could extend this same argument into just using qwerty in the first place.
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im not sure i could ever go from qwerty, or want to do so. im not sure ive even seen a dvorak board in my life. moe of just thinking along the lines of whether if there are real advantages for getting, say, ergodox
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Cocoa Crispies posted:that’s from toorcamp 2016, the quaaludes guy brought his whole cluster and set up the “people’s computer history museum” ah, cool, he’s been trying to talk me into coming to toorcamp just gave him an IBM PS/2 X.25 Coprocessor Card to use in the wack-rear end network there too
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angry_keebler posted:the problem with a good looking keyboard is that you're a huge dummy if you use anything other than an ugly ergonomic keyboard. anybody typing 100+wpm will get injured in less than a week using a regular keyboard, it's just the nature of your anatomy use a regular keyboard as many hours as physically possible while your anatomy is still flexible and you don’t have to worry about this
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Salt Fish posted:Dvorak only kinesis advantage. best part is because of the keywells/ergo design, it's easy to switch back to qwerty on a normal non-ergo board.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:anyway, not to kill the discussion, what's cool+good in the world of ergoboards? could consider one if it doesn't look too pain in the rear end for videoshames there are like 4 ergonomic keyboards worth buying microsoft natural 4k: for bigger hands it's the cheapest ergonomic keyboard that isn't complete poo poo. it's fine if the spacing between the rests and the keys is good for your hands. it's wide enough that you need to have your chair's armrests set up properly to allow you to switch to mousing without lifting your arm. best wrist rest material microsoft sculpt: it's more expensive and probably worse ergonomically than the 4k, but some people like it. the detached numpad is garbage that you might as well throw away. the bundled mouse is also garbage. the fabric wrist rest gets disgusting. kinesis freestyle 2 with the vip kit: are you really overweight or have wide shoulders? do you have small hands? does your work refuse to buy you an a2 for work and home? has the same right hand numpad toggle concept as the a2, which some people can tolerate kinesis a2: if you can live with the right hand numpad toggle it's the obvious choice. With the detatched numpad it's wider and more awkward than the 4k. lol option: the surface ergonomic keyboard: it's similar to the sculpt except the keys are worse, the wrist rest fabric is significantly worse than the sculpt, and it's bluetooth which is garbage.
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angry_keebler posted:the problem with a good looking keyboard is that you're a huge dummy if you use anything other than an ugly ergonomic keyboard. anybody typing 100+wpm will get injured in less than a week using a regular keyboard, it's just the nature of your anatomy maybe if you didn't type at such a high velocity you wouldnt snap your wrist when you miss the spacebar
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i have a natural 4k at work and it's okay, the keys are trash though. you have to hammer it way too hard. sculpt + trackball at home, will probably go advantage next time i feel like setting some money on fire.
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