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Nuebot posted:PVP is more frustrating than fun, especially since rolling in the first game is basically just a death sentence rather than any means to dodge an attack. there's a deranged part of me that really likes ds1 pvp jank. there's so much weird poo poo going on in there like unblockable infinite combos with the shotel and counter strafing for guaranteed backstabs or just the entire poise system that's kind of satisfying in its own strange way. plus it's way easier to make characters that can punch above their weight, so to speak. there's nothing stopping a mid-level character from having full upgraded gear to deal with groups or lovely people or whatever. I like how open the early game is too. you can spend quite a bit of time grabbing equipment you need from almost anywhere in the game without fighting any bosses at all, which makes it easy to pull together complete characters pretty quickly. that said, I've been dipping my toes into ds3's pvp recently, and I think it's definitely much cleaner and probably altogether better. I really hate the whole duel at the bonfire meme, though. I have way more fun when healing is encouraged and terrain becomes an issue and stuff edit: uhp, new page. here's a ladder kill https://www.twitch.tv/videos/225582170 noether fucked around with this message at 10:37 on Feb 12, 2018 |
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noether posted:edit: uhp, new page. here's a ladder kill https://www.twitch.tv/videos/225582170 Ahaha I've never seen Fire Surge used in PVP before but that's a good and hilarious use for it. Nice kill!
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Feb 12, 2018 11:57
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Nuebot posted:especially since rolling in the first game is basically just a death sentence rather than any means to dodge an attack. Mahlertov Cocktail posted:Ahaha I've never seen Fire Surge used in PVP before but that's a good and hilarious use for it. Nice kill!
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Feb 12, 2018 12:14
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asio posted:90/125/140+ ime. Thanks for the serious reply. And yeah I grabbed the goofy looking crown from that white tree in the swamp. Now I need something that looks better than the sword master's clothes while still being able to fast roll.
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Feb 12, 2018 13:35
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IronicDongz posted:sounds like someone didn't stay below 25% equip weight I was naked pretty much the entire game. If you're seriously going to try and tell me that lag stabbing and fights devolving into backstab fishing hasn't been an issue in dark souls 1 forever then I don't know what to say.
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Feb 12, 2018 14:40
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what's a good chasedown weapon for int-focused characters? my mlgs user keeps running into problems with hosts who either sprint directly away from them or roll around like idiots and refuse to fight. I've tried a bow and a partizan so far, but neither really has the damage output to punish that poo poo effectively, I feel.
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Feb 12, 2018 18:55
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noether posted:what's a good chasedown weapon for int-focused characters? my mlgs user keeps running into problems with hosts who either sprint directly away from them or roll around like idiots and refuse to fight. I've tried a bow and a partizan so far, but neither really has the damage output to punish that poo poo effectively, I feel. Uchigatana. You need pokes for runners and slashes for rollers and it has both.
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Feb 12, 2018 19:07
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Estoc is also widely used for the same thing. Anything fast with a good thrusty dash attack is good. For roll-spammers, you can delay your attacks slightly to try to hit them between rolls. I've never managed to do it consistently myself, but I do see people use that a lot in invasion videos and random pvp videos. Also R1->R1->uncharged R2 when you do get to hit people.
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Feb 12, 2018 19:35
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I might try the uchi out if I play later. never used a katana in these games before, so that'll be interesting I'm not really a fan of thrusting swords, tbh. like I know they're supposed to be really good, but the moveset just seems so limiting :S
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Feb 12, 2018 20:37
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Nuebot posted:I was naked pretty much the entire game. If you're seriously going to try and tell me that lag stabbing and fights devolving into backstab fishing hasn't been an issue in dark souls 1 forever then I don't know what to say.
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noether posted:I might try the uchi out if I play later. never used a katana in these games before, so that'll be interesting also if you use a shield shieldpokes basically fill the same niche as attacking with a poise weapon. it's extremely choice to have a weapon that is faster than straight swords so if you ever trade with a straightsword user you can just mash out r1s and you'll hit them first every time after that
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Feb 12, 2018 22:50
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It's very common in builds with huge weapons too, to have a quick weapon to finish people off in case they decide they're done trading and just want to stay alive now. I also saw a great video of someone who, on a fast weapon build, switches to a greathammer when up against ganksquads, since greathammers get such great poise bonuses, and even with medium to light armor, can still get a couple of good hits in through straightswords and even ultra greatswords to force people to back off or split up. He would go as far as to use a Great Wooden Hammer on dex builds, since you can two-hand it at 12 strength, and it can still deal out a 500+ damage combo fairly easily. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ1wLFpLPW0 Maleh-Vor fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Feb 12, 2018 |
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I will rep my favorite tryhard combo of offhand estoc and mainhand yhorm's whenever it is remotely relevant and this is a great time to do so offhand estoc is very fast, good range, you can 2H it for chasedowns when need be, and it combos into yhorms when spaced correctly(!!!). and then the much slower yhorm's has poise and shockwave stagger effect, which can make you very unpredictable.
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I only had access to my Steam Controller, which I never use, and decided to try my luck grinding the Storyteller Staff for a few minutes and get some practice with it while I did. Staff drops off the second Storyteller, and I get it, then proceed to die a bunch in Farron swamp because I absolutely cannot deal with decent humanoids (Heysel and the Darkwraith) using the Steam Controller. In the end I got my staff, but nothing but more hatred for this piece of plastic.
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Feb 13, 2018 01:48
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What the gently caress Steam controller is the best controller ever made I thin you're literally the first person I've seen complain about it
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lambskin posted:Thanks for the serious reply. And yeah I grabbed the goofy looking crown from that white tree in the swamp. Now I need something that looks better than the sword master's clothes while still being able to fast roll. (There are two scrolls in the poison swamp but only give one to orbeck per boss beaten) Antiquated dress (Also in the swamp)? Lothrics robes (lothric castle)? Spear of the church outfit (outside midir boss fog in dlc2)? I think the workers outfit (which needs grinding anyway) is too heavy for a sorcerors stat spread. That was my sub-30% fashion souls progression, ending with court sorcer pants and old sorceror gloves (I think; the purple sorceror gloves). Iron bracelets are p pimp on that outfit too but a little heavy. Gives me room for staff, candlestick and rapier/straight sword/base spear (crystal infused). Im ok going over 30% for a weapon art shield only because of the spacing opportunities from the spear and rapier weapon arts. And i swap the hat for a witches hat when facing magic users. My dude is also pretty slim considering the crippling bug pellet addiction he suffers (he's really squishy).
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feelix posted:What the gently caress This might be the first time I've seen anyone like it! Not sure I'll ever use it while I have the option of a playstation or xbox controller.
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I guess I'm actually not qualified to speak at all because I'm just not particular about controllers at all I can go between Dualshock and Xbox and Steam smoothly without any complaints
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Soul Reaver posted:I don't know if anyone's covered it before in this thread but I'm having two technical issues with DS3 on my PC, both present since I started playing (I'm up to Pontiff Sulyvahn now) I found a solution for this: changing my MTU settings. I remembered that I'd actually had the same problem in DS2 and the below had fixed it: Used the command prompt as administrator and typed the following: netsh interface ipv4 set subinterface "Local Area Connection" mtu=1404 store=persistent Now I can summon/get invaded just fine. I've created a psa post on reddit so others can find the same solution (hopefully). Sound issues remain. Soul Reaver fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Feb 13, 2018 |
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feelix posted:I guess I'm actually not qualified to speak at all because I'm just not particular about controllers at all I mean, if I used it for a few dozen hours and really got used to the touchpads I could likely even enjoy it. They're just so alien that I have never been able to use it for more than an hour before feeling like I'd rather not play whatever game I'm trying to play than keep using it. I really only strongly dislike the lack of a d-pad, and have never found any settings for it that I feel comfortable with. I actually enjoy being able to use the gyro for mouselook while touching the right pad. However, I've been using Dual Shocks exclusively since the PS1 and never had a non-sony console after it besides the 3DS, so 21 years of habit forming are hard to break or adjust. This also makes me dislike the triggers and bumpers, since I'm not used to them being clicky. Not having a d-pad you feel comfortable with just ruins any platformer and not being able to safely swap out weapons or items is a nightmare in Dark Souls.
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aegof posted:This might be the first time I've seen anyone like it! Not sure I'll ever use it while I have the option of a playstation or xbox controller. Steam controller is 100% the best thing for playing DS3. Bind the left back paddle as a spare run button and the right one for cycling through your hotbar items and welcome to being able to pan the camera around comfortably while running and swap items on the fly. Give this a pop - steam://controllerconfig/374320/1300030183
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It's good to be flexible with your control options.
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Storyteller staff is interesting. It's not great, and my Swamp Witch build is terrible at anything remotely resembling honor duels, but it's really fun for invasions, especially when you go up against a gank squad and have enemies you can hide behind or lure them towards. Crowds easily get overconfident and end up getting poisoned, after which you have separated them and can more easily pick people off. I generally always at least kill a phantom, and sometimes manage to get them all. Currently invading at road of sacrifices at level 25, with a +2 dagger, +2 pyromancy flame and the Storyteller Staff, and 20 vigor, with 16 int and faith, for no particular reason. I've got boulder heave, flame surge and great combustion, but will eventually try to go for Snap Freeze instead of great combustion. Going for pestilent mist is probably a bad idea since it requires 30 intelligence, and would put me at level 40, besides, it's really hard to get people to stand in your garbage, and against anyone who's paying attention, it's really hard to even poison them. Flame surge is fun and annoying enough.
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every time I run into a guy with the abyss watcher hat, I gotta wonder if they actually like how it looks on its own, or if they're just wearing it to complete the set or something. it's such a weird looking helmet, I wouldn't expect to see it so often
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noether posted:every time I run into a guy with the abyss watcher hat, I gotta wonder if they actually like how it looks on its own, or if they're just wearing it to complete the set or something. it's such a weird looking helmet, I wouldn't expect to see it so often Hey, at least it's not the fallen knight set.
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Feb 14, 2018 00:33
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yeah baby lemme drape some dirty fuckin rags all over this armor mmmmmmmmmm
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the fact that a sizable part of the playerbase thinks that putting a hood over a helmet looks cool and prefer it over all other headwear options is concerning. like the most popular fashion is that and full buttplug hat warrior cosplay. who are these people who are so easily taken in by goofy edgelord trash
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Feb 14, 2018 01:13
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fallen knight set looks loving sweet, you're the edgelord
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noether posted:the fact that a sizable part of the playerbase thinks that putting a hood over a helmet looks cool and prefer it over all other headwear options is concerning. like the most popular fashion is that and full buttplug hat warrior cosplay. who are these people who are so easily taken in by goofy edgelord trash Half the fun of invasions is assessing how hard you're going to murderate someone by their bad edgelord non-fashion. I would love to see an invader graph fallen knight set-to-riposte ratio.
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Hooded robes are sweet Bucket helms are sweet Combine the two and paint it black, it's sweet you loving hipster
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Nonexistence posted:Half the fun of invasions is assessing how hard you're going to murderate someone by their bad edgelord non-fashion. I would love to see an invader graph fallen knight set-to-riposte ratio. feelix posted:Hooded robes are sweet they're gonna die of fuckin heatstroke before they even get a chance to get parried and murdered by the twink that just invaded them with a hornet ring and dragonslayer axe
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Nonexistence posted:Half the fun of invasions is assessing how hard you're going to murderate someone by their bad edgelord non-fashion. I would love to see an invader graph fallen knight set-to-riposte ratio. I killed an anime yesterday. We killed his phantom bro who was in endgame gear in road of crucifixion at lv 25, while the anime was a shirtless Sasuke from Naruto with a katana who kept trying to parry me with the quickdraw weapon art. He actually managed to do so once, and stayed alive for ages just avoiding the Watchdog and myself as we chased him around, so kudos to the anime edgelord, I guess.
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I find it hilarious that the Fallen Knight set pants are literally pissed in because their owner was a coward, and still people use it thinking it's a cool set.
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the pants being piss stained is actually the best thing about the set, because it gives it actual personality by making him a huge coward, rather than super bland edgelord nonsense if fallen knight gear lore just made them out to actually be a bunch of badasses it would be so much worse
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On my pyromancer I wear Abyss Watcher armor set but swap out the helmet for Sage's Big Hat. Sometimes I switch the armor but the hat remains.
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I'm absolutely stuck on the part of the Cathedral of the Deep after you get the ladder shortcut. The guys with the crossbows take off a bunch of my health no matter what, then there's the axe guy, that ambush, and two dual wielders. Even after that there's still more. I don't understand how an ordinarily player is supposed to do this, it seems legitimately badly designed.
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please make more posts about how you've read every item description or about the practicality of armor in the fantasy game to show how it is the other people, not you, that is gay
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Justin_Brett posted:I'm absolutely stuck on the part of the Cathedral of the Deep after you get the ladder shortcut. The guys with the crossbows take off a bunch of my health no matter what, then there's the axe guy, that ambush, and two dual wielders. Even after that there's still more. Heh yeah cathedral of the deep owns.
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Justin_Brett posted:I'm absolutely stuck on the part of the Cathedral of the Deep after you get the ladder shortcut. The guys with the crossbows take off a bunch of my health no matter what, then there's the axe guy, that ambush, and two dual wielders. Even after that there's still more. It’s one of the longer runs between bonfires in the game but not really all that hard as long as you go slow and don’t get mobbed. There’s a couple places along this route where the game will drop a couple enemies on you in very short order so you have to stay alert. Carry a 100% physical block shield for the thralls and crossbowmen. The big hollows with the halberd or axe are tougher and hit a bit harder, but are easy to backstab. The gravewardens are probably the most dangerous individual enemies but are also easy to backstab or parry. Once you open the big door you can just sprint through to the next shortcut.
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feelix posted:please make more posts about how you've read every item description or about the practicality of armor in the fantasy game to show how it is the other people, not you, that is gay
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