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Main Paineframe posted:agreedo, sticking your nose into a bloody civil war in order to conquer territory full of armed insurgents who already aren't happy with your country is a great idea which has literally never ever backfired and certainly doesn't have any moral issues involved Even better it's not like there wasn't say two years ago a Wahabi, isis inspired attack in Tel Aviv.
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Crowsbeak posted:Even better it's not like there wasn't say two years ago a Wahabi, isis inspired attack in Tel Aviv. Well I think everything is going to turn out fine. There are lots of big brained people doing important thinking about all of this and there is no way any of this is going to get out of hand.
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steinrokkan posted:Can't wait for Lion Assad to defeat all the world powers at once. brb gonna try this out in hoi4
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Y'all are acting like Israel hasn't been perfectly happy to shield an ISIS enclave squashed against their borders.
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if they run they're a wahabi if they stand they're a well disciplined wahabi
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steinrokkan posted:Y'all are acting like Israel hasn't been perfectly happy to shield an ISIS enclave squashed against their borders. Trying to annex such a place though would create some new problems.
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Crowsbeak posted:Trying to annex such a place though would create some new problems. add terrorists, let terrorists run out the local population, annex, exterminate the terrorists, enjoy new greater israel it's pretty much all upside for the settler state
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Prav posted:add terrorists, let terrorists run out the local population, annex, exterminate the terrorists, enjoy new greater israel
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I'm pretty sure the IDF has been around longer than a decade.
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steinrokkan posted:Can't wait for Lion Assad to defeat all the world powers at once. It's almost time for the Turkish Independence War centennial 
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rudatron posted:God drat, israel has a knack for just making the dumbest moves ever. Eh not like Syria is in much of a position to do anything about it now or the foreseeable future.
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Vernii posted:Eh not like Syria is in much of a position to do anything about it now or the foreseeable future. Israel has occupied the Golan Heights for as long as they've occupied the West Bank. They haven't grabbed any territory as of yet. But the SAA could, if they wanted to, rain down rockets and artillery on the Golan settlements.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:It's almost time for the Turkish Independence War centennial That's gonna be off the hook
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thatfatkid posted:I'm pretty sure the IDF has been around longer than a decade. Hey, they didn't take southern Lebanon, so I have my doubts they'll get their buffer zone.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Israel has occupied the Golan Heights for as long as they've occupied the West Bank. They haven't grabbed any territory as of yet. But the SAA could, if they wanted to, rain down rockets and artillery on the Golan settlements. That would be cool
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the lion assad will liberate palestine in the course of crushing the wahabbis
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I'm pretty sure America would go to war with Syria, even if they were trying to take back what's technically their own territory from Israel.
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lmao a corrections officer from my city was just detained at an italian airport coming back from syria, he claimed he was there to help at a refugee camp near Aleppo but there wasnt any refugee camp near Aleppo at that time. turns out he was fighting for Ahrar al-Sham and now he's being indicted for lying to the feds. owned
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Israel has occupied the Golan Heights for as long as they've occupied the West Bank. They haven't grabbed any territory as of yet. But the SAA could, if they wanted to, rain down rockets and artillery on the Golan settlements. It could theoretically do that but I don't think that would end well for the SAA. They've had enormous manpower and materiel losses, a lot of their units are regiments or brigades in name only and the only thing that's kept them from collapsing has been the Russian airforce, foreign volunteers, and Volksturm style NDF units. The last thing they're going to do is pick a fight with a fresh force that's handily beaten them several times already.
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Vernii posted:It could theoretically do that but I don't think that would end well for the SAA. They've had enormous manpower and materiel losses, a lot of their units are regiments or brigades in name only and the only thing that's kept them from collapsing has been the Russian airforce, foreign volunteers, and Volksturm style NDF units. The last thing they're going to do is pick a fight with a fresh force that's handily beaten them several times already. Israel is as 2014 and 2006 shows, hardly the terrifying force it once was. Note also Syria could call on Hizbellah to fight in such a situation who are very good at fighting Israel.
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Hezbollah is my loving jam
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To invade Syria, Israel would have to either go through Lebanon, or the rebel and ISIS held territory they've cultivated on the borders with the Golan, so having to fight every single faction in Syria at once isn't a good proposition for them. On paper, they could march an armored column down from the Golan Heights and into Damascus within a day. It's all flat plain from the Golan to the Capital, but actually being able to hold on to all of that territory, in one of the most highly armed and bitter regions in the world, is another matter entirely. Plus the regime's real core of strength is in Latakia anyway, so just taking Damascus wouldn't be a knockout blow even if they could take it quickly. The IDF just doesn't have it in them to do another years-long occupation in a highly armed and opposing territory like they did in Southern Lebanon again. Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 07:42 on Feb 14, 2018 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Israel has occupied the Golan Heights for as long as they've occupied the West Bank. They haven't grabbed any territory as of yet. But the SAA could, if they wanted to, rain down rockets and artillery on the Golan settlements. Wouldn't that just end up with them losing all their artillery? I'd bet on Israel over whoever is left manning the guns in the SAA in an artillery duel
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aphid_licker posted:Wouldn't that just end up with them losing all their artillery? I'd bet on Israel over whoever is left manning the guns in the SAA in an artillery duel Probably, but the SAA has more than just rocks to throw back at the Israeli air force. You also don't need a mobile platform like an MIRV to shoot off big rockets - they can be launched off of man-deployed racks. The point isn't to "duel" Israeli artillery, the point is to spook them into leaving Syria alone by threatening their precious settlers in the Golan Heights.
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Russia must be pissed about their PMC's little adventure because they are fast tracking a bill through the Duma rn to regulate them
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Regulate the how? Their previous stance was a good check on them gaining real power.
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https://twitter.com/vox_employee/status/963603997847441408
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The Curse is real lol
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It is going to be good when somebody does that meme with Assad's corpse.
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Tokamak posted:It is going to be good when somebody does that meme with Assad's corpse. 
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This just in Tokamak arrested for what police are describing as “insanely hosed up sex crimes”
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Tokamak Permabanned for using the N-Word in Race Space
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Probably, but the SAA has more than just rocks to throw back at the Israeli air force. You also don't need a mobile platform like an MIRV to shoot off big rockets - they can be launched off of man-deployed racks. Also Israel has historically been very loss averse in their military campaigns and I'd hope Assad has gotten used to it by now. Israel could rack up a lopsided scoreboard and still come away with a bloody nose.
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If this didn't get posted yet, this image is not altered in any way, shape, or form:
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Bip Roberts posted:Also Israel has historically been very loss averse in their military campaigns and I'd hope Assad has gotten used to it by now. Israel could rack up a lopsided scoreboard and still come away with a bloody nose. Israel has bombed Syria practically unopposed a hundred times over the last few years, but that one F-16 getting shot down was incredibly humiliating, because it’s the first Israeli F-16 to ever be shotdown. Losing the aura of invincibility can be a bigger loss than actually losing people, which is why Hezbollah declared the downed F16 the start of a “new strategic phase.”
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Waffle House posted:If this didn't get posted yet, this image is not altered in any way, shape, or form: Anime Nazis and ISIS pillowhumpers the same you say? 
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Waffle House posted:If this didn't get posted yet, this image is not altered in any way, shape, or form: LF is alive in syria
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Lawman 0 posted:Anime Nazis and ISIS pillowhumpers the same you say? It was only a matter of time before it converged, and you know it to be true in your heart
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Waffle House posted:If this didn't get posted yet, this image is not altered in any way, shape, or form: i loving love the 21st century someday this image is going to be in a museum of history and I hope I live to see it
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Main Paineframe posted:i loving love the 21st century
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