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Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe

DELETE CASCADE posted:

why are marketing people obsessed with the difference between ease and simplicity lately? and they always need to point out that their product has both? IT'S SIMPLE AND EASY! extra points when it's neither

like was there a ted talk or keynote at wharton or hbs or something

they needed something to replace the old hackneyed NEW AND IMPROVED

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Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

today in "that person you thought was kinda neat years ago is actually a nazi," i bring you that girl who did that talk about DIY cybernetic implants, who somehow got hired by the NY Times before being immediately fired after they realized she was a nazi:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ny-times-quinn-norton-neonazis_us_5a837db8e4b0cf06751f8fbe

quote:

At around 3 p.m. on Tuesday, the paper’s communications department tweeted that it had hired Norton as its “lead opinion writer on the power, culture and consequences of technology.”

Twitter users immediately began pointing to her past tweets, in which she’s admitted she’s “friends with various neo-Nazis” ― though she says she has “never agreed with them.” In other tweets, she’s called users “fag” and used racial slurs.

By 10 p.m., Quinn had been released from the company. James Bennet, the Times’ editorial page editor, told HuffPost:

“Despite our review of Quinn Norton’s work and our conversations with her previous employers, this was new information to us. Based on it, we’ve decided to go our separate ways.”

i mean i assumed she was an unstable person from the whole "her hobby is cutting herself and shoving weird things into the wound" thing so i guess i'm not surprised

also lol at the new york times for hiring someone without like, looking at their twitter feed at all. i bet they have a "must maintain an active social media presence" rule too :allears:


e: bonus fun quote

quote:

In a blog post about her hiring, she said she was “as surprised as you are.”

“I haven’t tried to make myself look more professionally acceptable, more conventional, or any of that, for the benefit of my new employer. I plan to just be me, and bring my ideas to the table. I hope those ideas help.”

even she was amazed that the NYT's standards are so low

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

ate all the Oreos posted:

if we were to have a country-wide referendum that stated, literally, "should we allow illegal immigrants to be sold into slavery to pay for the border wall and our troops" I guarantee that fucker would get at least 30% yes and that's super depressing to think about

this is the keyes constant

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010


i'm not sure that applies, since i wouldn't call this "crazy" or even voting along hard partisan lines by today's standards, that's what's so scary about it.

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

30% in favor, 30% opposed, 40% no opinion :smith:

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

ate all the Oreos posted:

if we were to have a country-wide referendum that stated, literally, "piuw7ty-=1vf nowiu bwe2`fukn wefuip hoeifnuopqefjqfeo ihfqo[iqwefhuk fqe?" I guarantee that fucker would get at least 30% yes and that's super depressing to think about

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

iirc when they polled Louisiana if they approved or disapproved of their governor or senator or whoever’s use of prostitutes “approved” got 5% so that gives a data point for the “loves loving with polls” part of the voter base

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

hobbesmaster posted:

iirc when they polled Louisiana if they approved or disapproved of their governor or senator or whoever’s use of prostitutes “approved” got 5% so that gives a data point for the “loves loving with polls” part of the voter base

more like 5% love fuckin prostitutes

wide stance
Jan 28, 2011

If there's more than one way to do a job, and one of those ways will result in disaster, then he will do it that way.

hobbesmaster posted:

iirc when they polled Louisiana if they approved or disapproved of their governor or senator or whoever’s use of prostitutes “approved” got 5% so that gives a data point for the “loves loving with polls” part of the voter base

Anonymous polls are a joke and people who believe them are dumb.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

hobbesmaster posted:

iirc when they polled Louisiana if they approved or disapproved of their governor or senator or whoever’s use of prostitutes “approved” got 5% so that gives a data point for the “loves loving with polls” part of the voter base

after former california state senator leland yee was arrested for attempting to sell a crate of rocket launchers to an undercover FBI agent, soon enough before the election that they couldn't take his name off the ballot, he still received fifteen percent of the vote

so that gives a data point for "literally zero political awareness but still votes" part of the base

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

wide stance posted:

Anonymous polls are a joke and people who believe them are dumb.

i once read about a case study where researchers went to a residential area and asked people to estimate their alcohol consumption. they then compared those numbers to the actual number of empty containers found in the respective trash receptacles. surprise, surprise! people were significantly lowballing their booze intake.

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

President Beep posted:

i once read about a case study where researchers went to a residential area and asked people to estimate their alcohol consumption. they then compared those numbers to the actual number of empty containers found in the respective trash receptacles. surprise, surprise! people were significantly lowballing their booze intake.

The survey was before people started reading your posts, the canvas of the trash cans was after.

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)
:tizzy:

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

Trimson Grondag 3 posted:

http://www.bestmaid.com.sg/Filipino-Maid.html

sortable by ethnicity of course and includes marriage status!

Jesus Christ

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
is there some ongoing fyad campaign to come up with the most tortured version of "your posting is bad"?

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Sagebrush posted:

after former california state senator leland yee was arrested for attempting to sell a crate of rocket launchers to an undercover FBI agent, soon enough before the election that they couldn't take his name off the ballot, he still received fifteen percent of the vote

so that gives a data point for "literally zero political awareness but still votes" part of the base
pedophile roy moore, who was removed from office twice for being too racist in alabama, received 49.9% of the vote because it's okay to gently caress children as long as you don't approve of letting women decide to abort them

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Trimson Grondag 3 posted:

http://www.bestmaid.com.sg/Filipino-Maid.html

sortable by ethnicity of course and includes marriage status!

au perilous

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

infernal machines posted:

is there some ongoing fyad campaign to come up with the most tortured version of "your posting is bad"?

wasn't that the official purpose of fyad in the first place before it became embryonic weird twitter

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

infernal machines posted:

is there some ongoing fyad campaign to come up with the most tortured version of "your posting is bad"?

YOSPOS, bithc.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Sagebrush posted:

after former california state senator leland yee was arrested for attempting to sell a crate of rocket launchers to an undercover FBI agent, soon enough before the election that they couldn't take his name off the ballot, he still received fifteen percent of the vote

so that gives a data point for "literally zero political awareness but still votes" part of the base

how does a state senator even get a crate of rocket launchers

like if you show up at a military base and say you're a senator do they just have to give you whatever you want or something?

darthbob88
Oct 13, 2011

YOSPOS

ate all the Oreos posted:

how does a state senator even get a crate of rocket launchers

like if you show up at a military base and say you're a senator do they just have to give you whatever you want or something?
The same way everybody else does.

rjmccall
Sep 7, 2007

no worries friend
Fun Shoe

Endless Mike posted:

pedophile roy moore, who was removed from office twice for being too racist in alabama, received 49.9% of the vote because it's okay to gently caress children as long as you don't approve of letting women decide to abort them

now, now, he wasn’t removed for being racist, he was removed for being a wacky fundamentalist who refused to follow court orders he didn’t like

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
I like that Yee was going to buy those weapons from MILF, the best named org

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe
I was going to find some Quinn norton thibg from 2014, but have this instead
https://twitter.com/gabriel__lewis/status/963121814166630400

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope

infernal machines posted:

is there some ongoing fyad campaign to come up with the most tortured version of "your posting is bad"?

Oh come on, that was inspired

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Schadenboner posted:

The survey was before people started reading your posts, the canvas of the trash cans was after.

lol

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe
oh there it is
https://twitter.com/quinnnorton/status/513088706807627776

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope

Chris Knight posted:

I was going to find some Quinn norton thibg from 2014, but have this instead
https://twitter.com/gabriel__lewis/status/963121814166630400

B-but zuckerberg's conscience

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

hobbesmaster posted:

iirc when they polled Louisiana if they approved or disapproved of their governor or senator or whoever’s use of prostitutes “approved” got 5% so that gives a data point for the “loves loving with polls” part of the voter base

louisiana also got something like 30% of respondents blaming obama for katrina

it's a p chill place


eschaton posted:

well yeah, University of Chicago

that institution should be razed for being complicit in Pinochet’s crimes

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

louisiana also got something like 30% of respondents blaming obama for katrina

it's a p chill place




it's a closed loop. that means there are no externalities!

in a well actually
Jan 26, 2011

dude, you gotta end it on the rhyme

Sagebrush posted:

after former california state senator leland yee was arrested for attempting to sell a crate of rocket launchers to an undercover FBI agent, soon enough before the election that they couldn't take his name off the ballot, he still received fifteen percent of the vote

so that gives a data point for "literally zero political awareness but still votes" part of the base

rocker launchers are badass. sorry you hate awesome people doing awesome things, and for the community, too

like if dikc durbin was trying to move a crate of TEC-9s id respect the hustle, yanno?

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
anything that helps americans kill each other can't possibly be bad

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

President Beep posted:

it's a closed loop. that means there are no externalities!

lmbo

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

President Beep posted:

it's a closed loop. that means there are no externalities!

lol

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

Trimson Grondag 3 posted:

http://www.bestmaid.com.sg/Filipino-Maid.html

sortable by ethnicity of course and includes marriage status!

maid is just mail-order bride with fewer letters

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

PCjr sidecar posted:

rocker launchers are badass. sorry you hate awesome people doing awesome things, and for the community, too

like if dikc durbin was trying to move a crate of TEC-9s id respect the hustle, yanno?

sure, the politicians always talk about getting you rocket launchers, but the spoils always go to fat cat chinese gangsters. where's my RPG-7, mr. yee??

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe

quote:

Bay Area home prices are out of reach for many middle-income families, but surely if you’re a highly prized engineer at Apple or Google you can afford a house here, right?

Not so fast.

These days even high-paid tech workers — the very people often blamed for driving up home prices — have to stretch to buy a house, according to a new study by Los Angeles-based real estate startup Open Listings. Techies do come closer to affording a pricey Silicon Valley home than teachers, service industry workers, and scores of other workers. But home ownership may not be a given for them anymore, a shift that signals how the region’s explosive housing costs are shutting out even the prosperous.

“These highly paid, highly coveted people that are being recruited from all over the country or the world … they’re unable to afford the housing that’s available nearby,” said Open Listings CEO Judd Schoenholtz.

Software engineers at Bay Area tech companies including Apple, Google and Facebook would have to fork over more than 28 percent of their monthly salaries — a move frowned upon by financial experts — to pay for a home within a 20-minute commuting distance from their office, according to the study. The average software engineer at Apple, for example, makes $188,000 a year, and would have to spend 33 percent of his or her salary to afford a median-priced home in Cupertino, the study said. For software engineers at Reddit and Google, the mortgage and tax payments would total 32 percent of their income. Twitter engineers would have to fork over 30 percent, and Facebook engineers 29 percent.

Techies are unlikely to get much sympathy from other Bay Area workers struggling to make ends meet. Teachers, for example, who make a median salary of $72,340 a year, could afford just 0.4 percent of homes in San Francisco, according to an April study by Trulia.

But anyone whose mortgage payment exceeds the recommended 28 percent of his or her income may have a hard time getting a home loan, Schoenholtz said. If they do get a loan, it may not be for the full amount of the price, which would force them to pony up more for a down payment. And for residents already paying high rent prices, saving up a standard 20 percent down payment is hard enough — not to mention a payment of 30 or 40 percent.

That means the dream of home ownership likely will elude some high-tech workers, which could hurt local companies’ abilities to recruit and retain employees, Schoenholtz said.

“If that’s not going to be attainable, I wonder what the long-term viability of these companies (is),” he said.

It’s an issue already on the radar of many Bay Area tech companies. Last month, more than 100 tech executives and venture capitalists signed a letter supporting a bill by Sen. Scott Wiener, D-San Francisco, that would make it easier to build dense housing near transit stations.

“The lack of homebuilding in California imperils our ability to hire employees and grow our companies,” the leaders wrote. “We recognize that the housing shortage leads to displacement, crushing rent burdens, long commutes, and environmental harm, and we want to be part of the solution.”

In Apple’s hometown of Cupertino, for example, Zillow estimates the median home value is $2.2 million — up more than 20 percent from a year ago.

Several companies are taking the matter into their own hands. Facebook is planning to build 1,500 homes on its expanded Willow Campus in Menlo Park, and Google is backing the development of nearly 10,000 homes as part of its new office development at North Bayshore, in Mountain View.

For smaller companies without the resources to build housing of their own, leaving the area is a more cost-efficient option. That’s what happened to Open Listings, the online real estate brokerage that authored the study. The startup was headquartered in the Bay Area in 2015 as it went through Mountain View-based accelerator Y Combinator. When the program was over, the founders decided to head down to Los Angeles instead of sticking around.
“We deliberately moved away from the Bay Area,” Schoenholtz said. “We felt that it would be more affordable for our current and future employees to be located in a more diversely affordable location.”

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/02/14/buying-a-bay-area-home-now-a-struggle-even-for-apple-google-engineers

also not mentioned in this article is that bay area housing is reaching that point where even if you could afford the "required" qualifying down payment, you'll still need more money because many banks simply can't offer a mortgage to cover the asking price.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

ate all the Oreos posted:

i'm not sure that applies, since i wouldn't call this "crazy" or even voting along hard partisan lines by today's standards, that's what's so scary about it.

https://twitter.com/HonoredSpirit/status/963388838235267072

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July
lol at assuming that anyone who has to take out a mortgage can even buy a home they could actually afford when they’re competing with five cash offers

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Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine
Can I have "Eds and Meds are not a universally-available solution for regional development, especially when you're halfway between goddamn Phillie and NYC?" for 500, Alex?

https://twitter.com/BurghDiaspora/status/963874831979679745

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