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Probably already asked, but how is the new core as a complete experience with say 2 boxes? The original seemed pretty hollow, especially for some factions, but diving into thousands of cards and multiple cycles was such a brick wall. Is there an updated buy list that's recommended?
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Just two cores is OK as a board game style experience. I'd say just 2 new core plus whatever big box expansions has the factions you like best in them is more than fine on a budget. I don't think shaper even works until you have creation and control for SMC/clone chip
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Feb 5, 2018 21:01
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Elizabeth Mills posted:I don't feel the need to indulge in twenty turns of useless flailing if I've lost, but I do explain that I have no outs and congratulate my opponent before conceding CodfishCartographer posted:Yeah if I think there’s no real way of winning I’ll usually go “So I don’t really have any answers to what you’ve got, I’m just gunna conceded out gg” or something similar. Sure, maybe I could luck into three agendas on a hail mary R&D run, but it’s probably not gunna happen, and if it’s not at a literal tournament why bother? Sure, totally understand that. I think that's ok, but its the people that get sweary or moan about your "degenerate" deck or something. Seriously, a guy running Skorpios and a bunch of Arc Lockdowns said that about my lucky draw with an Edward Kim deck. Maybe I am in the minority where I still sort of enjoy Netrunner even when I lose all the time. I wish Jinteki.net had an ignore or friend list, so I can add these salty fellas to it each time, there is one guy I have definitely accidentally played a few times and he is always like this.
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Feb 5, 2018 21:05
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You can block users in settings
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Feb 5, 2018 21:42
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sonatinas posted:You can block users in settings 
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Feb 5, 2018 21:46
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mitochondritom posted:I wish Jinteki.net had an ignore or friend list, so I can add these salty fellas to it each time, there is one guy I have definitely accidentally played a few times and he is always like this.
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Feb 5, 2018 21:50
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mitochondritom posted:I wish Jinteki.net had an ignore or friend list, so I can add these salty fellas to it each time, there is one guy I have definitely accidentally played a few times and he is always like this. Have I got good news for you: https://github.com/simons/jankteki E: Check me out, top of the friends list, because si is an awesome guy I know IRL. 
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ZorajitZorajit fucked around with this message at 06:55 on Feb 7, 2018 |
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Feb 7, 2018 03:02
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Thanks guys, should have figured there was something like that around.
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Feb 7, 2018 08:52
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The Anarch image in the OP is broken.
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Feb 13, 2018 02:39
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PMush Perfect posted:The Anarch image in the OP is broken.   HACKERZZZZ
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Feb 13, 2018 03:14
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Someone explain RNG Key to me like I am an idiot child. Why is it (supposedly) so good for Adam?
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Feb 14, 2018 00:58
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Play it with find the truth, run R&D, and always get the right answer. Because as the runner, you get to pick order, so you choose to let find the truth trigger, figure out what the top card of R&D is, and then you get to let RNG key to guess with 100% accuracy.
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Feb 14, 2018 01:12
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Well that's not very random at all!
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Feb 14, 2018 01:20
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Manipulating the RNG
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Feb 14, 2018 02:36
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It's more of a pseudo-random number generator, I guess.
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Feb 14, 2018 02:47
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I guess it should probably be called "RNG Seed" instead
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Feb 14, 2018 16:11
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Don't underestimate that Adam also usually has a good idea of what you have in HQ, either through find the truth, NAT accesses or playing corporate defector. In the Adam games where I've played RNG Key I get just as much money/draw off HQ runs as R&D runs, usually swapping over to R&D as my first run in the late game where I am in R&D lock mode.
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Feb 14, 2018 18:24
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What's Adams R&D dig tool of choice, now that RNG Key is antisinergistic with Top Hat?
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Lichtenstein posted:What's Adams R&D dig tool of choice, now that RNG Key is antisinergistic with Top Hat? Why does Adam need a dig tool when he can just lock you with Find the Truth?
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Yeah, find the truth is all the dig tool you need.
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Feb 14, 2018 18:47
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How well does this game capture the feel of its worldbuilding? I remember reading on No Fun Allowed how the Android board game lost basically all immersion while Arkham Horror managed to keep up the thematic elements, more or less. The Arkham LCG does a pretty great job of things, so I'm curious if this pulls off the cyberpunk setting.
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Feb 14, 2018 18:55
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Because if the corp lucks out and withstands your rush by simple virtue of having the agendas somewhere deep it can get awfully glaciery and sad. I suppose accepting weak late game is part of the decision to pick Adam in the first place, but I really liked having a little something as either a contingency for the game going long, or a tool to really exploit the good times and don't let the game go long in the first place. You all know those games where you keep running at HQ you know holds nothing of value only to keep revealing non-agendas in R&D and slowly watch the corp get their poo poo together. Or perhaps a singleton Top Hat was simply too cheap to resist slotting in.
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Feb 14, 2018 18:59
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e: regarding theme: (IMO) very, very well, particularly on the Corp side of things. The cards are usually strongly typed to whatever the Corp is meant to be unstoppable at in-setting, to the point where sometimes when you look at a new card you'll just kind of smirk, like oh of course Jinteki would pull something like this. Runners seem a little more nebulous but even then, at least all the Event cards come across well, and the flavor text on programs, hardware and whatever else does a great job of building a vibe.
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A Horse Named Mandy posted:How well does this game capture the feel of its worldbuilding? I remember reading on No Fun Allowed how the Android board game lost basically all immersion while Arkham Horror managed to keep up the thematic elements, more or less. The Arkham LCG does a pretty great job of things, so I'm curious if this pulls off the cyberpunk setting. It's insanely thematic, ridiculously thematic, like the whole reason I picked up the game was how well it incarnates its theme. Even the physical arrangement of the cards on the table is thematic. The corp sits behind walls of security software defending rows of servers: every server a little secret or asset the runner needs to break into. The runner has a little panel of tools and software to get through those obstacles. And they're frantically tallying their money to make sure the corporation can't backtrack their last run and drop a cruise missile through their window. When you get to the higher levels of the competitive metagame you'll find some frustrating strategies which rely mostly on sidestepping the core tension of "runner attempts to break into a server while the corp tries to lure them into traps or unbreakable defensive software", but that doesn't stop the game from being a marvel of mechanical-fictional synchronicity.
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A caveat to corps being thematic is that like half of NBN cards make little sense, or are left as completely undefined Cool Sounding Names. What the hell is Project Beale and why is it so potentially worthwhile? What did Midseason Replacements ever had to do with its effect? What is the thematic meaning of Hatchet Job? And so on. Having said that, the game never really had any particular drop in its evocativeness. People probably just got used to stringing their combos for all these years.
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Lichtenstein posted:A caveat to corps being thematic is that like half of NBN cards make little sense, or are left as completely undefined Cool Sounding Names. This sounds pretty NBN in and of itself.
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Feb 14, 2018 20:27
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I like a lot of the corp cards that show the darker side of things. Weyland has an upcoming agenda that's just "we have rigged everything we're building in this incredibly profitable contract to explode, just in case" and that's incredible. That said, we need the more clean ones as a contrast. I miss Jackson Howard's smile.  Also the best runner card thematically is either the one with Adam holding the bloody hammer in his hand with the text "he was free" or Day Job.
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Midseasons is that the runner revealed /stole what was going to be broadcast (the agenda) before it was put on the air, so NBN had to do a midseason replacement of the show. There’s then a really powerful trace with shitloads of tags because the runner revealed themselves to announce it or they were traced as they stole it. I guess. Project Beale…VR News?? I guess???
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Feb 14, 2018 23:34
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The novel Monitor shows Mideason Replacements as NBN turning the runner into a TV show in order to replace their stolen agenda/show/script.
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Feb 14, 2018 23:56
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CodfishCartographer posted:Project Beale…VR News?? I guess???
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Feb 15, 2018 03:09
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A reference to Network means I'm basically committed to getting the game at this point. Probably a can of worms, but: do I go for the original or revised core?
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100% revised core. While some of the cards in the original core are near and dear to my heart (desperado, siphon), they greatly limited design space. Plus, there is no legacy-style format, so getting the original core would be a waste of money. The only reason why I'd suggest picking it up is if you're getting it as part of a collection from someone.
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I think hatchet job is the most straightforward reference of the NBN cards referenced honestly. Maybe it's confusing if you think it's about literal hatchets instead of a slang term?
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GladRagKraken posted:I think hatchet job is the most straightforward reference of the NBN cards referenced honestly. Maybe it's confusing if you think it's about literal hatchets instead of a slang term? It's the card going in, like, three different directions at the same time that kind of confuses me. So, the title and effect are somewhat straightforward: so NBN dunks on you to put spoke in your wheel. It probably would make a bit more sense if limited to resources, but whatever, the card needs to be playable. Then the art is some kind of a literal meaning joke? With some rando, contextless stock broker dude, rather than NBN dropping yet another special report or something? Finally, there's the flavor text line referencing stock/commodities market manipulation. So it's not about going for the runner's throat, but rather crashing his bitcoin wallet or something? But it's not really an economic denial card? What does dumping TT credit have to do with uninstalling programs? Is this simply a poorly explained piece of the Fisk vs NBN motif? 
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Lichtenstein posted:It's the card going in, like, three different directions at the same time that kind of confuses me. Hatchet Jobs can be used on products as well. So NBN talks poo poo about something the runner bought, and the runner goes 'aw gently caress that' and tosses it or stops using it. In regards to the artwork, maybe you own something you bought through TT and you want to dump it before the TT credit crashes further. With the flavor text reference I think its pretty easy to figure out. Lots of companies bring out new products that might not do well, upon seeing it doesn't do well NBN stock broker shows tell people to dump that stock because why would you hold onto it with this horrible product released? So that Hatchet Job could have been attacking the product, which in turn allows the shows to tell people to drop the company's stock.
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The art and flavor text are a reference to a Jim Cramer like "stock tips show" you dweebs
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Elizabeth Mills posted:The art and flavor text are a reference to a Jim Cramer like "stock tips show" you dweebs
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Is Merger just like...profoundly bad? What am I missing there that makes a 3/2 with a runner kicker better than any other agenda in the game? Like, even a "bad" agenda that doesn't do much to win you the game is better than something that's such a liability for R&D, even in a FA deck. ...Right? e: and NGO Front is ridiculous.
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