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Paul MaudDib posted:that one is even more fabricated and homosexual. Volta is only 8 months old. And the article that started the Turing rumour in the first place specifically says that Turing is a gaming GPU.
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PerrineClostermann posted:Apparently there's thought that Turing will replace Volta in the compute market, and Ampere will be the mass market. I still don't expect new gpus till 2H of this year because amd can't do anything and nvidia has no reason to push out a new consumer card before then.
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Apparently the ampere and Turing thing are sourced from computerbase.
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When is a good time to buy into a new generation of graphics cards? Are there often hardware problems in the first wave that get resolved with subsequent ones, or is that not so much of a thing?
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Koramei posted:When is a good time to buy into a new generation of graphics cards? Are there often hardware problems in the first wave that get resolved with subsequent ones, or is that not so much of a thing? Probably when they cost less than $1000 bux. Right now is just a bad time due to buttminers buying everything up.
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PerrineClostermann posted:Apparently the ampere and Turing thing are sourced from computerbase. The Turing thing is from Reuters and Computerbase is reporting on the rumor. Computerbase's source on Turing being a compute uarch is "my rear end". quote:The name indicates a professional GPU repiv posted:And the article that started the Turing rumour in the first place specifically says that Turing is a gaming GPU. People just love to poo poo on the idea that the gaming market will ever have nice things again, like some people seem to think that NVIDIA is just going to sit on their hands for the next 2 years and wait for AMD to rebound before releasing anything. Some bitterness/black humor is understandable given how much we've gotten shafted over the last year though. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Feb 14, 2018 |
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Koramei posted:When is a good time to buy into a new generation of graphics cards? Are there often hardware problems in the first wave that get resolved with subsequent ones, or is that not so much of a thing? Anytime. I cant even remember the last time there was a hardware issue with a release, even on day one. The only things that come to mind are badly made third party coolers but those are very specific models and brands, and rare all things considered. 280x MSI is the last big one I remember that literally did not function
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It honestly wouldn't surprise me if nVidia didn't do a pre-order deal on Founder's Editions this time around.
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Koramei posted:When is a good time to buy into a new generation of graphics cards? Are there often hardware problems in the first wave that get resolved with subsequent ones, or is that not so much of a thing? NVIDIA's got their poo poo covered. If there's a major uarch change you might see some driver issues at first, but if it's Maxwell v3.0 then everything will be fine.
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Wacky Delly posted:I not putting it past nVidia to sandbag this generation and just improve power consumption and performance per watt or something. What's the competition going to do? Mine them to 1st place? Nah they'd make more money by releasing new cards that would actually push people to upgrade.
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Feb 14, 2018 23:23
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I can confirm that slide is real
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which is the gayest GPU, i must have it
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Koramei posted:When is a good time to buy into a new generation of graphics cards? Are there often hardware problems in the first wave that get resolved with subsequent ones, or is that not so much of a thing? There's nothing wrong with buying early. If you have worries buy from a retailer/manufacturer with a good history of customer service. That way if you have a lemon you should have good luck getting a replacement that works.
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Don Lapre posted:I can confirm that slide is real SOMETHINGAWFUL FORUMS CONFIRMS TURING LAUNCH JUNE 2018
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Cygni posted:"leak" circulating around the net today: Yeah there's no way, why would they put 16gb of GDDR6 on a card when it's the most expensive thing for them and 8 is already overkill? Also, have they ever put "(on air)" specs on their marketing slides before? Edit: probably more than 50% of the market for these don't have 16gb of actual ram, nevermind vram
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Malcolm XML posted:which is the gayest GPU, i must have it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27W_TelL128
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Zero VGS posted:Also, have they ever put "(on air)" specs on their marketing slides before? Dont believe so but they did say it a lot during the 1080ti launch
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as a gaymer im really not sure how i feel about this but yeah id probably buy a limited edition rainbow gpu
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buglord posted:as a gaymer im really not sure how i feel about this but yeah id probably buy a limited edition rainbow gpu I'm glad to know one iota of my 1070 went to supporting mainstream acceptable capitalism for gay men!
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Feb 15, 2018 01:04
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It's fake. As someone else pointed out, those specs would be around 18 TFLOPS not 15.
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buglord posted:as a gaymer im really not sure how i feel about this but yeah id probably buy a limited edition rainbow gpu the RGB movement is actually gay propaganda
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Fauxtool posted:the RGB movement is actually gay propaganda Those motherboards and keyboards do kinda blast rainbows across the room by default. I have no idea how counterstrike bros aren't instantly made insecure by this. I'm gay and I think it's a bit much.
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Arivia posted:I'm glad to know one iota of my 1070 went to supporting mainstream acceptable capitalism for gay men! Greed trumps conservatism.
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Zero VGS posted:Yeah there's no way, why would they put 16gb of GDDR6 on a card when it's the most expensive thing for them and 8 is already overkill? Also, have they ever put "(on air)" specs on their marketing slides before? 8GB might already be overkill for most people, but in the slow march that is the GPU wars (or, really, NVidia playing against itself these days), you have to keep upping the spec sheet for people to care, even if it isn't strictly necessary. And these things are gonna be priced to the moooooon! regardless of RAM, because at least for the moment they loving can. The 780 Ti had 3GB VRAM, the 980 4GB. The 980 Ti had 6GB VRAM, the 1080 8GB. The 1080 Ti has 11GB VRAM... ...so I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the 1180 popping in at 12GB or so. 16GB does seem like too much for the *80 part, but 14-16GB would not be insane for the Titan part, considering the Titan XP has 12GB already.
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8 GB will continue to be fine for at least one more generation, except for doing stupid poo poo that would have tanked your framerate anyway. The question is whether GDDR6 is fast enough to feed a 2080/1180, or whether they will need to go wider on the bus to get bandwidth up.
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Kind of a dumb question, but why has GPU memory remained relatively low compared to what you can build into a PC. Meaning I can get 64GB easy for a PC, why don’t we see 64GB GPUs? I’m sure there’s a simple explanation that I’m missing but it’s always been one of those “I wonder” type questions.
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Because RAM is insanely expensive right now There's also not that much need for that much VRAM, diminishing returns on performance.
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tehinternet posted:Kind of a dumb question, but why has GPU memory remained relatively low compared to what you can build into a PC. Meaning I can get 64GB easy for a PC, why don’t we see 64GB GPUs? Because RAM isn't cheap. Particularly now, RAM is stupid expensive, so there's a strong economic pressure to only stick on there what's actually useful, rather than overdoing it. And, as it turns out, you really don't need that much for almost any game out there. At 1080p, you'd be hard pressed to find a game that uses much over 4GB. At 4k, things aren't much worse, with only a few games topping 6GB. The 11GB on the 1080 Ti is, frankly, a hilarious waste for today's games, and probably for the next several years. 16GB would be the realm of >8k or funky VR/stereoscopic stuff. The only place gobs of VRAM makes sense is in some very specific compute workloads, and there you're probably talking about Tesla-type cards where an extra $100-200 for more RAM is a drop in the bucket compared to the $10,000 base price.
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tehinternet posted:Kind of a dumb question, but why has GPU memory remained relatively low compared to what you can build into a PC. Meaning I can get 64GB easy for a PC, why don’t we see 64GB GPUs? Before these past two or three generations you didn't really need a lot of memory. Until we started doing high res textures and insane resolutions, you didn't need more than 2gb of VRAM until recently.
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tehinternet posted:Kind of a dumb question, but why has GPU memory remained relatively low compared to what you can build into a PC. Meaning I can get 64GB easy for a PC, why don’t we see 64GB GPUs? You don't get that much RAM on gaming cards because games don't need it.
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Koramei posted:When is a good time to buy into a new generation of graphics cards? Are there often hardware problems in the first wave that get resolved with subsequent ones, or is that not so much of a thing? Prices have come down a bit but is still high. Best deal right now is a 1060 6GB in stock from newegg for close to msrp. https://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-GeForce-GTX-1060-DirectX-12-GTX-1060-6G-OCV1-6GB-192-Bit-GDDR5-PCI-Express-3/292052350949
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DrDork posted:At 1080p, you'd be hard pressed to find a game that uses much over 4GB. At 4k, things aren't much worse, with only a few games topping 6GB. The 11GB on the 1080 Ti is, frankly, a hilarious waste for today's games, and probably for the next several years. 16GB would be the realm of >8k or funky VR/stereoscopic stuff.
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Gamesguy posted:Prices have come down a bit but is still high. Best deal right now is a 1060 6GB in stock from newegg for close to msrp. That's not at all what the question was. The best time to buy a new generation of graphics cards is a few months after the launch when the public has identified problems with coolers/boards, and they're available enough in stores that you can buy them without getting reamed. The next best time is when the *80ti comes out since you can choose between that, the baddest-rear end card, or a used *70 or *80 that people are upgrading from.
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IMO the best time to buy anything PC is the earliest when they get near MSRP, because every manufacturer has moved to just-in-time production where holding excess inventory is a censored four letter word.
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Zero VGS posted:That's not at all what the question was. The best time to buy a new generation of graphics cards is a few months after the launch when the public has identified problems with coolers/boards, and they're available enough in stores that you can buy them without getting reamed. The next best time is when the *80ti comes out since you can choose between that, the baddest-rear end card, or a used *70 or *80 that people are upgrading from. Unless he was asking a pure theoretical, this is irrelevant. Currently the best time to buy a graphics card is whenever buttcoin prices crash and you can find a card, any card, for close to MSRP.
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My GTX 970 settlement just arrived at long last. God bless Nvidia and 3.5GB-gate.
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cerious posted:My GTX 970 settlement just arrived at long last. God bless Nvidia and 3.5GB-gate. Curious, how much  did you get out from it?
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My favourite theory at the moment is that Turing will be a line of cryptocurrency focused GPUs. NVIDIA has the capacity to saturate that market and leave Ampere for gamers. Plus Turing is probably the most well known cryptographer so it's fits thematically.
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Paul MaudDib posted:People just love to poo poo on the idea that the gaming market will ever have nice things again, like some people seem to think that NVIDIA is just going to sit on their hands for the next 2 years and wait for AMD to rebound before releasing anything. I swear I've heard this a thousand times before but with Intel instead of Nvidia 
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