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FunkyAl
Mar 28, 2010

Your vitals soar.
i think meredith gran should take her existing game concept story and engine but re-skin all the characters to be cartoon bugs from the 1930s

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girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
Is that a reference to something because that sounds awesome

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Pyroclastic posted:

Nah, it's incredibly uncommon for Kickstarters to get that far in their first two weeks and fail. Most projects have a big influx at the start, then drop down for a few weeks before spiking again in the last couple days. The rare few that make it to 50% and don't succeed are usually smaller creators who don't have the networking or pull of someone like Meredith Gran; they exhaust their reader pool, and can't draw in enough new blood to finish things. Even though this an entirely new thing for her (also, she's never done a Kickstarter before), she's got a big enough fanbase to pull it off.

Well, good to hear. I didn't know Meredith Gran was such a big thing, so I assumed that she was one of those "smaller creators" set up to fail (which is why I panic-backed). Hopefully you're right! The world can't have enough adventure games.

true leftist
Feb 1, 2018

by zen death robot
they're loving

true leftist
Feb 1, 2018

by zen death robot
they're all loving

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
who?

Jackard
Oct 28, 2007

We Have A Bow And We Wish To Use It

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
I think you're missing the point; it's getting specific about your shipping that's fun.

FunkyAl
Mar 28, 2010

Your vitals soar.

PMush Perfect posted:

Is that a reference to something because that sounds awesome

nah i've just been watching cartoons from the 1930s. they're full of bugs!

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

Seems like Broodhollow might be coming back. Kris Straub paused his regular patreon and started a new one exclusively for Broodhollow.

quote:

My goal is to return to Broodhollow comics on a regular basis!

Broodhollow was serialized as a webcomic from 2012 until about 2015. After taking on other projects (one of which is being a parent), I've been writing and planning the comic with what time I have. I haven't left the town of Broodhollow and I never will -- but your interest can bring it back to the forefront!

Ditocoaf
Jun 1, 2011

Man, I really want to be excited for this, I was a huge fan of Broodhollow and backed the kickstarters, etc. But after two different false starts on the same chapter, each preceded by a hiatus then a "return", I'm not feeling particularly hopeful.

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

This patreon is set up per page, not per month. You can look at it as a good thing, or a bad thing, I suppose. The good thing is that he only gets paid if he puts up pages, which is certainly a motivation. (You can set a monthly patreon maximum, fwiw)

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

Pierson posted:

Three or four years at this point I think?

It started in 2012, so it's going on six years.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
So in order to not lose casual readers, would it be better in going for short chapters as oppose to long ones? Or it doesn't matter?

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

punk rebel ecks posted:

So in order to not lose casual readers, would it be better in going for short chapters as oppose to long ones? Or it doesn't matter?

I don't think anyone actually cares what arbitrary point you decide to call a chapter break, except the guys who will whine and whine and whine about it but still read your comic religiously regardless

Breaking up your stuff into more granular segments does make it easier to archive-dive, vs. the guys who will lump 700 nameless pages under the same one-word "chapter"

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

Frequent updates are good for retention: people come back regularly and make it a habit. Decompressed storytelling is bad for retention: people stop having fun and decide to come back at the end of the chapter, and then they forget to.

Chapters are a made-up idea that don't matter. The pace at which plot elements are introduced and resolved matters. My advice to you is to imitate Hergé - a cliffhanger on every page.

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

FATAL & Friends
Walls of Text
#1 Builder
2014-2018

Or, at least, something worth reading. Something cute enough, funny enough, plot-advancing enough or character-advancing enough to matter.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
Thanks for the advice.

Ditocoaf
Jun 1, 2011

Regularity is even bigger than frequency. A comic (or youtube series, or blog) that posts every-other-wednesday at exactly 8pm eastern will gather regular readers more easily than one that posts on random days and times, usually less than a week between updates but sometimes up to two weeks.

Obviously plenty of comics do just fine without predictable schedules, but if you can swing it, it'll help. "Habitual readers" are an entire class of audience that can only exist in that environment.

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

A Certified Jerk

Bongo Bill posted:

My advice to you is to imitate Hergé - a cliffhanger on every page.

I'd go with this. When I draw comics I try to make it so that each page has some sort of punchline, a cliffhanger, or otherwise something that is satisfying enough to people who read it on a page-by-page basis, while at the same time make it so that it still works when it's read in one setting through archive binging or in a printed book.

Having a regular update helps, too. I highly recommend creating a buffer before launching so that it can update on a regular basis without the risk of missing a day. I worked on my comic for a year before I launched it online, for example.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
Is it better to register my own website to post my story, or it doesn't matter if I just use a blog or something?

I'm worried that fans may not want to go to a medium or Tumblr page or something.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

stuff like Tumblr can draw more of a casual audience passively from being built right into the Tumblr community, but it's utterly godawful if you want your art to look okay or to have a humanly legible comments section or any kind of navigation that makes sense. Pick your level of comfort in control over your end product vs. time saved not dealing with any of that, there'll be a platform for that.

Samuringa
Mar 27, 2017

Best advice I was ever given?

"Ticker, you'll be a lot happier once you stop caring about the opinions of a culture that is beneath you."

I learned my worth, learned the places and people that matter.

Opened my eyes.
People come back every month for comics that they have to pay for, I don't see why they wouldn't for something free.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Samuringa posted:

People come back every month for comics that they have to pay for, I don't see why they wouldn't for something free.

Paying for something makes people invested (literally) in it in a way they usually aren't in something they didn't, even if it's a trivial amount. People generally treat free poo poo as being worth what they paid for it.

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

FATAL & Friends
Walls of Text
#1 Builder
2014-2018

Samuringa posted:

People come back every month for comics that they have to pay for, I don't see why they wouldn't for something free.

The act of payment actually generates a certain level of expectation, loyalty and dedication that just browsing a website doesn't. Weird, but true.

Wrist Watch
Apr 19, 2011

What?

You can post them anywhere but I personally refuse to read webcomics on tumblr unless the css is heavily modified to have the usual navigational tools and a functioning archive. Even then it’s a maybe, given that tumblr can be weird about cropping images so you have to click on it to get the full thing. Blogs usually have the same problem w/r/t readability, I’d honestly rather read something on like smackjeeves or other similar sites that offer more easy to use setups. Most comics that start getting serious tend to break away after a while for the freedom having their own site provides anyway.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

Yeah, Tumblr is just plain bad if you want to do anything more complicated than view an arbitrary smattering of somebody's latest work intermingled with whatever garbage they liked enough to re-tumble or however that works. There are ways that I've seen some people force Tumblr into more workable websites, but the default options are all terrible.

I don't know how it works on its own app, but on on my tablet, it tends to crash the browser by biting off more than it can chew with the whole infinite-scrolling thing. Even the archive page can crash you if it goes on long enough. Last time I had to browse an artist's unorganized work on Tumblr I had to fiddle around with the address bar. It's enough to make you miss Deviantart.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013
The most :lol: ones are the comics that publish on Tumblr and are locked down behind Tumblr’s dumbfuck trigger-shield safe mode feature, despite have no objectionable or NSFW content at all, effectively barring access from potential readers. And the only other option is to :lol: read it on DeviantArt because they don’t have a proper host for it.

Kojiro
Aug 11, 2003

LET'S GET TO THE TOP!
There's a theme that turns a tumblr into a pretty fine webcomic site- https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018 It's pretty dang customiseable, not a bad start at all.

Kojiro fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Feb 16, 2018

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW
Tumblr's mobile app is hilariously bad. Basic post formatting fucks up, half the time images just refuse to load (except the ads), crashes on the regular, that thing where it arbitrarily follows or unfollows blogs for you. Audio posts that use Soundcloud just... don't work. I could go on.

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
tumblr isnt a good site to host your comic on there are good comics on there. i read a handful of good ones, i think they all use kojiro's linked theme there or something similar

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

I have tried a couple times, but at this point I'm resolved that I will never, ever read a webcomic that exclusively publishes on tumblr. It sucks so bad. Choose any other option.

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW
Tumblr will get you more readers than anywhere else and they will all be pornbots.

Digamma-F-Wau
Mar 22, 2016

It is curious and wants to accept all kinds of challenges
this doesn't solve the problem of where to host it, but you could have a tumblr blog that has posts that have a preview image and a link to an update, so that people can follow the blog and see whenever the comic's updated on their dash. Same with twitter.

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

Have a main site for your comic. Make sure the main site has an RSS feed. Set up a a Twitter account and a Tumblr account, containing nothing but the comic itself and possibly very occasional ephemera such as sketches or reader answers (a rule of thumb is that you shouldn't post sketches or reader answers more often than you post the comic itself). Post to social media with whatever resolution is convenient, which may mean a thumbnail, but always always include a link to the real thing. If your comic has a sufficiently catchy name, use a hashtag for it on Twitter. On Tumblr, make sure every post with the comic itself is tagged with the name of the comic and with another tag that you use exclusively for actual comic updates. Retweet/reblog from them on your personal social media accounts if you have any. Depending on the audience you seek, a similar policy on other social media sites will be valuable; Facebook in particular is worth tapping if you seek general audiences. If you are making a stick figure comic with simple art, ensure that it is very difficult to remove your signature.

Samuringa
Mar 27, 2017

Best advice I was ever given?

"Ticker, you'll be a lot happier once you stop caring about the opinions of a culture that is beneath you."

I learned my worth, learned the places and people that matter.

Opened my eyes.
I've been reading Woman's World on Instagram and that's a surprisingly apt host for Square Comics. I suppose if you're going to deviate from that setup you gotta have your own website tho.

I do follow a bunch of webcomics on tumblr, but none of them are very remarkable, it's more of a habit, like newspaper comics.

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

Oh yeah, have a Patreon too.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

Bongo Bill posted:

Have a main site for your comic. Make sure the main site has an RSS feed. Set up a a Twitter account and a Tumblr account, containing nothing but the comic itself and possibly very occasional ephemera such as sketches or reader answers (a rule of thumb is that you shouldn't post sketches or reader answers more often than you post the comic itself). Post to social media with whatever resolution is convenient, which may mean a thumbnail, but always always include a link to the real thing. If your comic has a sufficiently catchy name, use a hashtag for it on Twitter. On Tumblr, make sure every post with the comic itself is tagged with the name of the comic and with another tag that you use exclusively for actual comic updates. Retweet/reblog from them on your personal social media accounts if you have any. Depending on the audience you seek, a similar policy on other social media sites will be valuable; Facebook in particular is worth tapping if you seek general audiences. If you are making a stick figure comic with simple art, ensure that it is very difficult to remove your signature.

Thanks.

FunkyAl
Mar 28, 2010

Your vitals soar.
I decided I'm writing a book with my comic and so also decided there's no point not writing it out of order and droppin a page whenever its done chronologically! then later i can have pages drawn out and drop em in like flies, one two

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true leftist
Feb 1, 2018

by zen death robot
paint your comic onto a sandwich board and wander the streets acting out the script at passersby

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