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Take this as you will:quote:The guy who nailed Custodes and Dok has spoken:
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mango sentinel posted:No way would they call a new army "Fishmen" Probably something like "Fyshmeen".
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Feb 16, 2018 21:43
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I want Sea Elves for sure, but destruction needs some more cool guys. Elves not aligned with Order could be good at least...
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Feb 16, 2018 21:48
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We need those Grot Sky Pirates that have been rumored since forever
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Feb 16, 2018 21:54
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Would be nice if Death got some new models to go with their campaign, but whatever, sea elves sound cool.
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Feb 16, 2018 22:14
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Hidingo Kojimba posted:Would be nice if Death got some new models to go with their campaign, but whatever, sea elves sound cool. You mean the Malign Portents campaign centered around the Aelves finally revealing themselves and the return of Slaanesh?
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Feb 16, 2018 22:29
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High elves who literally Got In The Sea would be a great race though, I've really liked the direction they took with dwarves and wood elves lore wise in that epic mythology sense as they escaped the age of chaos and evolved into new societies.
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Feb 16, 2018 22:53
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Lord_Hambrose posted:I want Sea Elves for sure, but destruction needs some more cool guys. Apparently Morathi's gang is order in name only and might as well have been part of it's own grand alliance.
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Feb 16, 2018 23:01
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Tiger Millionaire posted:High elves who literally Got In The Sea would be a great race though, I've really liked the direction they took with dwarves and wood elves lore wise in that epic mythology sense as they escaped the age of chaos and evolved into new societies. Yeah, Ulthuan was always "Atlantis except not underwater", they've always had a kinda nautical theme with Sea Guard etc, so this seems like a natural progression.
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Feb 17, 2018 01:52
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Dark elves already have pirate and sea monster models, although I guess back to back dark elf factions would be a little odd
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Feb 17, 2018 02:01
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Maybe they'll combine Sea Guard and Corsairs together?
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Feb 17, 2018 02:07
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I barely follow lore for this game but if I read things right Malekith (dark elf supreme leader) and Tyrion (high elf supreme leader) were last spotted working together to free Morathi (previewed witch elf faction leader) and they all fall under the order umbrella anyways so that would make some sense? The biggest turn off for me as a former WHFB player was just how splintered every faction became. I mean there are literally factions on their website with 1 model. I wouldn't mind if they walked that back a bit.
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Feb 17, 2018 03:00
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great big cardboard tube posted:I barely follow lore for this game but if I read things right Malekith (dark elf supreme leader) and Tyrion (high elf supreme leader) were last spotted working together to free Morathi (previewed witch elf faction leader) and they all fall under the order umbrella anyways so that would make some sense? They've actually been walking that back a bit, though not nearly as much as they should, Legions of Nagash+The combined Chaos factions have done a lot to consolidate their respective factions. I agree that there isn't an excuse for one model factions at this point though.
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Feb 17, 2018 03:05
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They've mentioned Sea Elves a few times recently in relation to Blood Bowl.
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Feb 17, 2018 03:17
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My suspicion is that the faction clusterfuck was a precursor of sorts to the 40k keyword system, and that when the time comes for a major rules revision we'll see those keywords implemented in AoS as well.
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Feb 17, 2018 03:20
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i want that god drat boat i want more crazy rear end terrain as long as it doesn't cost as much as the khorne fortifications because lmao
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Feb 17, 2018 03:28
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great big cardboard tube posted:I barely follow lore for this game but if I read things right Malekith (dark elf supreme leader) and Tyrion (high elf supreme leader) were last spotted working together to free Morathi (previewed witch elf faction leader) and they all fall under the order umbrella anyways so that would make some sense? To be exact they worked together to seal Slaanesh, while he was weakened and distracted from having glutted himself on millions of Elf souls. (While Daemons eating souls normally empowers them, Slannesh had eaten too many at once and was slowly digesting them.) Malekith then trapped Slaanesh and Slaanesh was forced to disgorge most of the elf souls. Morathi was ether freed prior to this on her own or was freed here, I am not sure. Anyway both Malekith and Tyrion after this left Sigmar's alliance to pursue their own ends. Tyrion is apparently fighting with the Forces of Tzeentch in a deadlock in his realm. While Malekith appears to have closed off his Realm to all. No forces from the other major factions have been able to get into Malekiths territory. They ether enter into the Shadows and are never seen again or their corpses are left outside of the realm.
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Pendent posted:My suspicion is that the faction clusterfuck was a precursor of sorts to the 40k keyword system, and that when the time comes for a major rules revision we'll see those keywords implemented in AoS as well. It's a side effect of Age of Sigmar's botched release. Namely they broke all these factions into smaller groups to show new organizations and factions in the Age of Sigmar with no regard for stuff like Allegiance abilities. Cause they had not thought of those yet and they did not exist. There was no balancing and stuff like that originally and you were free to take whatever you wanted in an army. So the faction split was meaningless. Now that they changed how stuff works. The split factions are redundant or incredibly weakened by the system. Ideally they will remerge all the factions.
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Feb 17, 2018 04:19
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I was completely detached from the hobby during the launch of AoS so I missed the immediate effect/reaction but from what I gather it was the equivalent of saying "do whatever you want as long as you still buy our products" and they thought that would work? It sounds like calvinball in tabletop form and while I guess that would appeal to some folks I can't picture a multi-million dollar corporation thinking that was the best way to market their expensive models. Definitely not the same company that completely rethought their community outreach approach and redid their business model in such a way that their stock tripled in a year. It's baffling. Please feel free to link me to the threads this has been discussed ad nauseum in. I've almost caught up on the "uninspiration" model thread and I could use some more laughs.
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Feb 17, 2018 05:40
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great big cardboard tube posted:I was completely detached from the hobby during the launch of AoS so I missed the immediate effect/reaction but from what I gather it was the equivalent of saying "do whatever you want as long as you still buy our products" and they thought that would work? It sounds like calvinball in tabletop form and while I guess that would appeal to some folks I can't picture a multi-million dollar corporation thinking that was the best way to market their expensive models. Definitely not the same company that completely rethought their community outreach approach and redid their business model in such a way that their stock tripled in a year. It's baffling. I think ti was due to the change in company leadership. Sorry I don't have links.
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Feb 17, 2018 05:41
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New CEO was a huge part of it. If you wanna check it out, the GW Death Threads are where you'd want to look.
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great big cardboard tube posted:I was completely detached from the hobby during the launch of AoS so I missed the immediate effect/reaction but from what I gather it was the equivalent of saying "do whatever you want as long as you still buy our products" and they thought that would work? It sounds like calvinball in tabletop form and while I guess that would appeal to some folks I can't picture a multi-million dollar corporation thinking that was the best way to market their expensive models. Definitely not the same company that completely rethought their community outreach approach and redid their business model in such a way that their stock tripled in a year. It's baffling. As someone who followed the proceedings but had no personal stake in them beyond a love of WHFB as a setting I will say that AoS started out extremely badly. I personally found the entire thing offensive down to the fluff (initially) being an extremely bland saturday morning cartoon version of 40k. That the first initial model releases were Stormcasts, Khorne and Fyreslayers did not help matters since I find Stomcasts and Fyreslayers to be some of the worst model ranges GW has put out (Stormcast because they are painfully bland and Fyreslayers because they're hideous) and the Bloodbound were just World Eaters without the sci-fi armor or the interesting background. My interest in AoS returned right around when Disciples of Tzeentch was released and I took another look at the game. Far better model ranges had come out by then (Sylvaneth, Ironjawz, and Tzeentch) which managed to make the setting look like something other than Bland Space Marines and Homoerotic midgets vs Bland Chaos Space Marines forever and the General's Handbook had made people actually want to play the game. Of course 40k took precedence for me when I found myself in a position to break into the hobby, but i'm hoping in a few months the Death Guard army will morph into a Maggotkin army. Anyway thats my unsolicited story about my relationship with AoS.
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I took a Khorne census of my miniature closet. Here is what I have.: Leaders Mighty Lord Of Khorne (140) x 3 Bloodsecrator (120) x 3 Bloodstoker (80) x 2 Aspiring Deathbringer with Goreaxe and Skullhammer (100) Exalted Deathbringer with Ruinous Axe & Skullgouger (80) Exalted Deathbringer with Impaling Spear (80) Skullgrinder (80) Slaughterpriest (100) Slaughterpriest with Hackblade and Wrathhammer (100) x 2 Units 30 x Blood Warriors (520) 80 x Bloodreavers (480) 7 x Khorgoraths (560) 20 x Wrathmongers (720) 20 x Skullreapers (720) Nearly 4700 points of Khorne to assemble and paint. I need help. I found myself thinking about starting Fyreslayers this afternoon, because they are strong. Given that I already have more miniatures than anyone needs, I want to build Khorne as soon as I get my Sylvaneth done. What would be the strongest 2000pt list I could make with what I have?
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It’s a good army, but where are the Bloodthirsters? And Skullcannons? Wouldn’t such an awesome collection/backlog be improved by a couple of centrepiece models?
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Feb 17, 2018 07:59
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I am more looking for "build this poo poo first" kind of help. I bought so much stuff that it is kind of daunting! A little friendly guidance would help get me started on this sizeable project. Edit: I was reading Sylvaneth lists and came across a good strat. He included two Knight Heraldors. Set up forests, and blow them horns! dexefiend fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Feb 17, 2018 |
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Feb 17, 2018 08:13
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Is there any point in signing up for Azyr if I'm not buying the books digitally? It doesn't seem to do anything that scroll builder won't already do.
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Feb 17, 2018 19:24
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Played a couple of games with the new Portents today. We randomly rolled for decks because we didn't have time to look at them all to decide which would work best for our factions, but they were still a lot of fun and added a real interesting dynamic. Knowing my opponent had a Portent that could force me to only roll one d6 for a charge made me have to really consider positioning and movement super carefully
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Feb 17, 2018 20:23
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/02/17/sky-storm-new-releases-warhammer-age-sigmar/ Can anyone tell me why Stormcast needed another Start Collecting box? Especially when so many factions in 40k and AoS are missing one.
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Feb 18, 2018 17:00
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Popularity.
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MasterSlowPoke posted:Popularity. Yeah hard to argue with demand. They hosed up though because I'd snap up a bundle with the dragon rider guys, but it's got the turkey riders instead.
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Feb 18, 2018 19:17
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It's not even popularity. They just push them. They have never been best sellers.
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Feb 18, 2018 19:24
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Morathi reveal. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/02/18/shadow-queen-unveiled/ Also somthing else with MP I have not read it yet. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/02/18/join-the-malign-portents-coalescencegw-homepage-post-3/
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Feb 18, 2018 19:44
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I'm honestly super glad they aren't as ubiquitous as marines. I think the original Stormcast Start Collecting box also has the problem of not being able to make actual units out of the model numbers they give you.
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Feb 18, 2018 19:46
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Huh interesting in the Morathi and Daughters Preview. You can now field the Statue of Khaine on the Blood Cauldron as an Avatar of Khaine.
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Feb 18, 2018 19:54
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I like that, been holding back on the current kit since I have the old metal one. Might pick up that allies box in addition to the preorders. I also like that apparently Morathi has gotten more modest in her old age. I can't tell, but it looks like there's an arm coming out of the pillar she wrapped around. Like she's crushing a dude against the pillar in her coils.
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Feb 18, 2018 20:10
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What a fantastic model.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Huh interesting in the Morathi and Daughters Preview. You can now field the Statue of Khaine on the Blood Cauldron as an Avatar of Khaine. Specifically an Iron Avatar of Khaine Also I had settled on Maggotkin but the Death Metal Elves are seriously tempting, I'm hoping a lot of this aesthetic is a precursor to the upcoming Slaanesh releases since Morathi was "twisted by the depredations of Slaanesh".
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Feb 18, 2018 20:28
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Yeah. I was tempted by naked dwarves, now i am tempted by snake women. Must stay focused!
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dexefiend posted:Yeah. I was tempted by naked dwarves, now i am tempted by snake women. You should paint some battleline units and a Khorgorath and a Lord of Khorne, just to get a valid army. Both of those Morathi models are amazing. The larger one is an instant classic. Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s one of the top models of 2018.
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That's a badass model, love it. I also really like the new harpy and naga things. On the other hand I look at the cover for their battletome and to a lesser extent the basic witch models and think I'd be too embarrassed to play the titty elf faction.
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