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I'm not really looking for work, but some trash startup emailed me after claiming to have viewed my Github profile and invited me to apply. I like to do at least one interview per year just to keep my skills sharp. Hey, might even get a sweet offer by surprise. Here's the response I got from my application:quote:Hi rt4, I think I'll pass on this one.
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Feb 16, 2018 22:37
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rt4 posted:I'm not really looking for work, but some trash startup emailed me after claiming to have viewed my Github profile and invited me to apply. I like to do at least one interview per year just to keep my skills sharp. Hey, might even get a sweet offer by surprise. Here's the response I got from my application: This sounds like it could be a hilarious trolling exercise, see how far you can take it and report back.
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Feb 16, 2018 22:49
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rt4 posted:I'm not really looking for work, but some trash startup emailed me after claiming to have viewed my Github profile and invited me to apply. I like to do at least one interview per year just to keep my skills sharp. Hey, might even get a sweet offer by surprise. Here's the response I got from my application:
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Feb 16, 2018 22:51
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Sorry, I received the email at a stressful point in the workday where I was picking up too many other peoples' messes and told them it sounded like a terrible place to work 
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Feb 16, 2018 22:57
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Now you've missed out on getting 5% of automatically creating a calendar event while having your data harvested. I bet you'll be kicking yourself tomorrow.
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Feb 16, 2018 22:58
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rt4 posted:Sorry, I received the email at a stressful point in the workday where I was picking up too many other peoples' messes and told them it sounded like a terrible place to work
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Feb 16, 2018 23:00
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Naar posted:Now you've missed out on getting 5% of automatically creating a calendar event while having your data harvested. I bet you'll be kicking yourself tomorrow. Did you interview with them or just delete?
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Feb 16, 2018 23:27
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No need to keep their name secret. I, also, got a recruiter-mail from Sphere. They didn't say anything interesting about themselves and they didn't actually look at my GitHub account, so I didn't respond. As a hopeless goon, I did think that the idea of automating friendship-upkeep was pretty appealing. It doesn't seem like an idea that will actually work though.
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Feb 16, 2018 23:46
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Oh ok, then I should post the link to their stupid culture page
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Feb 17, 2018 00:05
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lol at "we will always function like a startup"
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Feb 17, 2018 00:11
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CPColin posted:lol at "we will always function like a startup" That's probably true since they will never grow into anything else
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Feb 17, 2018 00:13
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rt4 posted:Oh ok, then I should post the link to their stupid culture page quote:We believe that by doubling the amount of time we spend on a goal, we will reach it twice as fast. N...n-no that’s not how that works
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Feb 17, 2018 01:48
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Pollyanna posted:N...n-no that’s not how that works That's amazing. 
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Feb 17, 2018 02:19
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Mniot posted:No need to keep their name secret. I, also, got a recruiter-mail from Sphere. They didn't say anything interesting about themselves and they didn't actually look at my GitHub account, so I didn't respond. I just applied for CTO. Let's see what happens.
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Feb 17, 2018 02:29
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metztli posted:Yes. There is no universe in which the median starting salary for a Software Engineer in Chicago is almost 150k. It's outright bullshit. I would believe that the median in Chicago is 150k or higher due to all the quantitative trading firms.
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Feb 17, 2018 03:00
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geeves posted:I just applied for CTO. Let's see what happens. What if they hire you? What then? Have you thought of that? Jeez, kids these days ...
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Feb 17, 2018 03:10
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The phone interview I had today for a place in Des Moines went decently until the end where the manager on the other end got pretty snippy about my minimum salary expectation being 65k. Is that really all that high for someone with a CS bachelors and internship experience, even for an entry level job in a low cost of living area? The only other places that I've had interviews with that have talked about salary were at least 75k, and they've all been in that region of the country.
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Feb 17, 2018 03:16
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Deki posted:The phone interview I had today for a place in Des Moines went decently until the end where the manager on the other end got pretty snippy about my minimum salary expectation being 65k. No. However, there are places that will balk at these numbers. Get what you can (ultimately you do need some kind of a job), but 65k even in a low cost area is not much. 80k would be quite a bit though.
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Feb 17, 2018 03:19
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Volguus posted:What if they hire you? What then? Have you thought of that? Jeez, kids these days ... I'm tempted to torpedo the company. Just because I can.
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Feb 17, 2018 04:00
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geeves posted:I'm tempted to torpedo the company. Just because I can. You are where I want to be in life
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Feb 17, 2018 04:32
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It's the only humane option
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Feb 17, 2018 04:44
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Deki posted:The phone interview I had today for a place in Des Moines went decently until the end where the manager on the other end got pretty snippy about my minimum salary expectation being 65k. It's not that high, but some companies are only interested in cheap labor, or have managers that think "well, I didn't get 75k when I was starting out, so...".
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Feb 17, 2018 05:24
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fantastic in plastic posted:It's not that high, but some companies are only interested in cheap labor, or have managers that think "well, I didn't get 75k when I was starting out, so...". Speaking of, I was able to finagle out of my coworkers what they are getting paid. My de-facto team lead, the one that I was told got a raise 3 months after starting (I was also told raises were frequent and they were able to evaluate performance constantly, that was what was used to make me more ok with taking a pay cut for the job), is making the same amount I do. My other co-worker, the one with an actual degree in CS, is making less than me (he wouldn't say how much because I think he had justified it in his head that it makes sense because he doesn't have experience yet), and I was actually shocked. I don't know how accurate Glassdoor is but I'm making 9k under market rate for the area, and the others are in the same or a shittier boat. I'm trying to encourage them to really start looking out for themselves more and not trust our boss about "the rewards to come", but they are apparently way more trusting/forgiving than me. I'm still applying to things, getting rejections slowly trickling back in.
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Feb 17, 2018 05:56
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rt4 posted:I'm not really looking for work, but some trash startup emailed me after claiming to have viewed my Github profile and invited me to apply. I like to do at least one interview per year just to keep my skills sharp. Hey, might even get a sweet offer by surprise. Here's the response I got from my application: Yup this seems very much a spam based on github accounts, I got this one too dumbasses posted:We found you on GitHub and we believe you might be interested in one of our developer openings. It sounds hilariously dumb, but I wanted to see if they actually checked my GitHub so I clicked through to see what they work with. Apparently they think my C++ heavy github matches their stack of Kotlin/Swift/Go. 
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Feb 17, 2018 09:34
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sailormoon posted:I would believe that the median in Chicago is 150k or higher due to all the quantitative trading firms. Nah, there simply aren't that many quant gigs in the city - for every one of those, there are a dozen CRUD factory code janitor worker roles. The only way I could see that stat not being hilariously false would be if it was if it were with the caveat that the median salary of developers Robert Half has placed in Chicago, and they only place them in quant roles, is 150k, and that's the salary they start at, not the entry level salary in the role.
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Feb 17, 2018 13:26
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metztli posted:Nah, there simply aren't that many quant gigs in the city - for every one of those, there are a dozen CRUD factory code janitor worker roles. Maybe you just don't know the right people to get those offers  But seriously, I could see RH's numbers skewing a bit high because they don't place as many entry level people, because who needs RH to find entry level devs.
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Feb 19, 2018 15:02
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Munkeymon posted:Maybe you just don't know the right people to get those offers Alternatively I could see them out and out lying
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Feb 19, 2018 15:26
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Blinkz0rz posted:Alternatively I could see them out and out lying  are you impugning the good name of Robert Haaahahaha yeah maybe it's just that.
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Feb 19, 2018 16:16
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I recall Robert Half immediately stopping any and all correspondence with me as soon as I mentioned I had left my previous role and taken a month off. To the point that a recruiter call I had scheduled for that day never called me. gently caress 'em.
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Feb 19, 2018 16:42
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More like Robert Halfass
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Feb 19, 2018 17:52
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rt4 posted:More like Robert Halfass Nice
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Feb 19, 2018 18:11
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*Rushes home in time for my phone screen at 7:30* *checks email right before the call is supposed to happen* quote:Grump, thank you for completing the initial phone interview for Shithead Company. We greatly appreciate your time and participation; however, after discussion with the team, we have decided to concentrate our focus on candidates that are more closely aligned with our current needs.  at least give me a chance!e: Thinking about sending an email back about how unprofessional it is to flake on a scheduled appointment and send boilerplate nonsense, regardless of whether they found a candidate they liked.
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Feb 20, 2018 01:32
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Grump posted:e: Thinking about sending an email back about how unprofessional it is to flake on a scheduled appointment and send boilerplate nonsense, regardless of whether they found a candidate they liked. this is a "write the e-mail and don't send it" situation. bonus: you can make the e-mail way more vitriolic that way!
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Feb 20, 2018 01:42
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Grump posted:*Rushes home in time for my phone screen at 7:30* Sending an email already puts them well ahead of most companies. I usually just never hear back.
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Feb 20, 2018 04:16
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Grump posted:*Rushes home in time for my phone screen at 7:30*
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Feb 20, 2018 17:41
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yeah I just said this last night, in hopes that it was a mistakequote:Hi, owner of company - not sure if this was an automated email or not, but we were scheduled to speak tonight at 7:30. I was looking forward to the call..
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Feb 20, 2018 20:18
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That’s probably fine - if they don’t respond, they’re not interested.
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Feb 20, 2018 20:26
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I probably wouldn't've been able to resist adding, "I trust your process isn't so dysfunctional that you did this on purpose!"
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Feb 20, 2018 20:50
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Seeing as more rejections are rolling in () I thought I'd ask for help with my REDACTED LINK I've edited it down quite a bit, I don't know if now it's too short. I'm having a really difficult time talking about myself in positive terms. Works been suspiciously good, besides my boss having meetings while I'm at lunch about things I'm working on, changing a major portion of the task, and then getting mad at me for not communicating enough because I did the issue as it existed before the meeting (meeting was 2-3 while I was at lunch, I was told about changes as I was closing the issue at 5:30) I hope you hear back at least an apology Grump. I had someone flake on a scheduled call and it felt awful. edit: Also, I left my template holders in there for where I put in what I read about their company values and whatnot so I can reference them specifically in each cover letter. I don't just keep THING1 in there Shirec fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Feb 23, 2018 |
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Feb 21, 2018 02:18
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Shirec posted:Seeing as more rejections are rolling in ( I'd include an introductory paragraph that just has the functional purpose of introducing yourself and reiterating what you're applying for. "My name is Shirec. I saw your advertisement for an open POSITION TITLE role on PLACE YOU FOUND IT. I would like you to consider me for the position. I am an engineer with TIME experience, primarily in LANGUAGE." After that introduction, I'd consider including some more background about what you've been doing at your current role. "I am currently a POSITION at COMPANY. Some of the projects I've worked on are:" and then list them with bullet points. This is a good place to "show" them how you've dipped in and out of the front end, reworked a Redis messaging queue, etc. The goal here is to create an image in the reader's mind of you-as-an-engineer and let them know some of your accomplishments at a glance. You don't need to brag here, just state what you've done in a matter-of-fact way. After taking care of that, then you're in a better position to talk about how the company's values align with yours and etc, since the reader will be oriented to what you want them to do (consider you for this, an engineering job). I'd rephrase "generally have people laughing in meetings" -- I know you're going for "I'm fun to be around!" but that particular way of phrasing it might make someone wonder if they're hiring a comedian.
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