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Gorilla Salad posted:I still hold out hope that one day I will see a She Hulk movie which is a gritty courtroom drama like A Few Good Men but with interdimensional aliens instead of jarheads. Tony Stark being grilled on the stand about being a perpetual fuckup who's only saved the world in spite of himself and the dangerous arms races he's propagated.
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McSpanky posted:Tony Stark being grilled on the stand about being a perpetual fuckup who's only saved the world in spite of himself and the dangerous arms races he's propagated. My roommate is rather fond of pointing out that a distressing amount of the MCU is driven by Tony Stark's awful decision making processes.
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Davros1 posted:No, my point was, is Black Widow is superfluous to The Avengers because of Thor and others, then Justice League, which has a god, the world's fastest man, and 2 Supermen, why would you need a guy who dresses like a bat? You need Batman to take down the rest of the Justice League when they all go evil, which happens a non-zero number of times.
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Factories don’t need janitors because they have engineers.
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I could see Black Widow outsmarting everyone but Tony, but Vision can literally read minds and also doesn’t function psychologically as a human, so I doubt she could trick him. Batman has canonically become such a paranoid schizo that he can regularly outsmart supergeniuses and outmaneuver clinical psychopaths. LoL I just realize that all of Superman’s best foes are Lex Luther, Braniac, and Gorilla Grodd, all megageniuses, and his plan for all of them is “punch until still”
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Feb 13, 2018 18:33
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Batman is a super genius they just don't acknowledge that because the powerless narrative is better.
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Bust Rodd posted:I could see Black Widow outsmarting everyone but Tony, but Vision can literally read minds and also doesn’t function psychologically as a human, so I doubt she could trick him. And Viz is a synthetic so he's potentially hackable or can get a psychic virus or something.
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Bust Rodd posted:I could see Black Widow outsmarting everyone but Tony, but Vision can literally read minds and also doesn’t function psychologically as a human, so I doubt she could trick him. I can totally see Widow outsmarting Tony
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Feb 13, 2018 21:24
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Depending on the writer, a small child could outsmart Tony.
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Davros1 posted:I can totally see Widow outsmarting Tony Wasn't she outsmarting Tony for most of IM2?
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Feb 13, 2018 22:08
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She outsmarted Loki, the god of outsmarting people.
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Feb 13, 2018 22:16
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All marvel heroes are hilariously easy to trick
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WampaLord posted:You need Batman to take down the rest of the Justice League when they all go evil, which happens a non-zero number of times. That was the dumbest thing about the Tower of Babel story line in the comics. Everyone loses their mind and votes Batman out of the league because he dared to have contingency plans in place for super powered people turning evil or losing control while having examples of exactly that happening a thousand times and being a huge problem already. Later the former evil murderer Hal Jordan guilt trips Batman about not trusting people when Batman finds out they forcibly edited his memories with magic. I don't think Black Widow fits that role though since she doesn't have infinite money and supergenius that basically makes her clairvoyant like Batman. She is just a good spy that kicks people.
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I could Widow outsmarting a drunk or distracted Tony, which he almost always is in the movies, but Tony with his wits and sober? Not a chance, he’s like one of the 10 smartest people in the MCU
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Feb 13, 2018 22:26
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Tony Stark is smart, but he also has a long record of making bad decisions, even after he sobered up.
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Feb 13, 2018 22:52
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Tony Stark, Bruce banner, and peter Parker all seem super easy to outsmart. T’Challa was outsmarted when he was angry about his assassinated father.
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Bust Rodd posted:I could Widow outsmarting a drunk or distracted Tony, which he almost always is in the movies, but Tony with his wits and sober? Not a chance, he’s like one of the 10 smartest people in the MCU Now that Shuri is the smartest person in the MCU, I really want to see her and Tony having scenes together. Also Shuri, Tony, Strange and Banner Illuminati please.
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Billzasilver posted:Tony Stark, Bruce banner, and peter Parker all seem super easy to outsmart. T’Challa was outsmarted when he was angry about his assassinated father. Don't all 3 of them only get outsmarted when Innocent people are used as leverage against them? Peter Parker's most unique super-power is literally Hyper-Prescience that seemingly prevents anyone beside Venom/Carnage from sneaking up on him and it's definitely been shown in the comics to even detect lies. Stark is probably the least smart of those 3, but Banner I can excuse because he's literally a weapon of mass destruction and having that weigh on your mind constantly has got to be taxing. Shuri is the new, young Iron Man right? Is she Iron Woman or did they not go full pants-on-head nerdrage for that one?
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Feb 13, 2018 23:41
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You're thinking of Riri Williams, Ironheart.
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At least none of them had a "Save Martha" moment. Peter's friend Ned could've outsmarted Batfleck
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dont even fink about it posted:Depending on the writer, a small child could outsmart Tony. In Iron Man 3 a kid talked him into having a panic attack with a few questions. Then he got over his anxiety about killing people by killing even more people. That and the climax of Civil War was him being manipulated into wanting to kill Bucky and therefore having to fight Rogers.
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Black Widow is the only normal human (albeit well-trained) who can hold her own in a gang of gods, mutants, and superpowered freaks; she is cool and good.
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I wish she had soviet super serum like in the comic tho ngl
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She might? Idk the black widow training program is never fully explained
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Laterite posted:Black Widow is the only normal human (albeit well-trained) who can hold her own in a gang of gods, mutants, and superpowered freaks; she is cool and good. ... Hawkeye!!! 
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As Nero Danced posted:In Iron Man 3 a kid talked him into having a panic attack with a few questions. Then he got over his anxiety about killing people by killing even more people. His anxiety is about dying not killing. He's fine with killing and does plenty of it.
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Tony has got some pretty serious ptsd kicking around at this point in the movies too. Dude came really close to dying in a huge war, so that's most likely an issue for him.
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Field Mousepad posted:Tony has got some pretty serious ptsd kicking around at this point in the movies too. Dude came really close to dying in a huge war, so that's most likely an issue for him. He made a choice to sacrifice himself, and then survived. In IM3 that's the main trauma he's dealing with.
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Lol “main” trauma, yes. But he’s got at least 20 more traumas to deal with. Spider-man didn’t really show off he’s dealing with the end of civil war.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkApe9LqErY
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howe_sam posted:Goldeneye but Black Widow would work pretty well I was coming into the thread specifically to post this. I think it would be kind of interesting for a Black Widow movie to go really light on action/fighting and go full espionage thriller. In my mind I'm thinking like "What if Black Widow were in Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy".
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There is a looooot of season 1 in that trailer.
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DeathSandwich posted:I was coming into the thread specifically to post this. I think it would be kind of interesting for a Black Widow movie to go really light on action/fighting and go full espionage thriller. In my mind I'm thinking like "What if Black Widow were in Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy". It would be hailed as the worst Marvel movie ever no matter what its actual quality, for starters. I watched TTSS quite excitedly and am still not sure what in the gently caress happened. Which is not to say that it's bad. A lot of the key portions occur in a broom closet with a table in it.
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I definitely feel like the success or failure of Red Sparrow is going to carry this sub plot of "now what if it had the power of Disney and the MCU behind it like Black Panther?"
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STAC Goat posted:I definitely feel like the success or failure of Red Sparrow is going to carry this sub plot of "now what if it had the power of Disney and the MCU behind it like Black Panther?" Knowing how incestuous Hollywood is, there's a non-zero chance that Red Sparrow is just a re-purposed Black Widow script.
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J-Law is gonna be a better Widow anyway.
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A lot of people are going to go into that expecting a completely different kind of movie than it really is because of how the trailers are selling it.
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dont even fink about it posted:It would be hailed as the worst Marvel movie ever no matter what its actual quality, for starters. I watched TTSS quite excitedly and am still not sure what in the gently caress happened. Which is not to say that it's bad. A lot of the key portions occur in a broom closet with a table in it. Ok, maybe Tinker Tailor isn't a good one to point to, but it was the first one to come to mind. The point I'm getting at is to make it a more personal, smaller scale story of intrigue that doesn't end with a blue laser shooting in the sky or two superhumans punching each other until one falls down. Hell, I'd be OK with it being a Casino Royale sort of story where the action is mostly loaded up front and then it goes into hard espionage.
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John wick is a good source of inspiration. A few scenes of fast and the furious. A strong Jason Bourne chase scene or walking past security cameras scene.
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Casting news for Punisher Season 2:quote:Josh Stewart has been cast as John Pilgrim, a man whose calm exterior belies a ruthless interior. Despite having left behind a life of violence, circumstances will force him to use his old skills and bring him into Frank Castle’s world. Floriana Lima will play the role of Krista Dumont, a smart, compassionate, and driven psychotherapist for military veterans. Giorgia Whigham has been locked to play Amy Bendix, a street-smart grifter with a mysterious past.
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