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simplefish posted:Just finished VOY. Oh my loving god. Of course the finale leant on time travel as a crutch There is also zero tension in Endgame Part 2. Voyager can't be touched by Borg ships because of the armor generators, kills Cubes each with a single torpedo, and Admiral Janeway just ices the Borg Queen with a virus  .
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I gotta say a Fed vessel just shrugging off Borg attacks and then one shotting them with quantum torpedoes may not have any tension, but it was cathartic and satisfying to me.
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Feb 21, 2018 14:02
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somewhere there's an alternate universe where the admiral jumps up and say by gum the only way to fight the computer people is with your own computer people, and the federation gets the daystrom institute to give data's dad all the illegal nanotech, cybernetics and genetic engineering research and builds an army of robots, war holograms and biotechnological malware and just goes loving hog wild on the borgs. the binars help too i guess, they're fun like there's a scene where data's mind is controlling like 200 data bodies and they're all bending borg cubes open and the little compucomp flying drone thingies are making holographic projection arrays to materialise legions of nightmare set-his-morality-switch-to-evil doctors that have figured out how to re-make borgs feel fear and pain and with each kill they're getting more and more network access and this federation collective suddenly realise that the borg have figured out most of the mechanism for capturing Qs
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chaosbreather posted:somewhere there's an alternate universe where the admiral jumps up and say by gum the only way to fight the computer people is with your own computer people, and the federation gets the daystrom institute to give data's dad all the illegal nanotech, cybernetics and genetic engineering research and builds an army of robots, war holograms and biotechnological malware and just goes loving hog wild on the borgs. the binars help too i guess, they're fun 
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Feb 21, 2018 15:01
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a fine name/post combo there
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chaosbreather posted:somewhere there's an alternate universe where the admiral jumps up and say by gum the only way to fight the computer people is with your own computer people, and the federation gets the daystrom institute to give data's dad all the illegal nanotech, cybernetics and genetic engineering research and builds an army of robots, war holograms and biotechnological malware and just goes loving hog wild on the borgs. the binars help too i guess, they're fun If so, then I'm glad we never saw it because it sounds lame as gently caress
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chaosbreather posted:somewhere there's an alternate universe where the admiral jumps up and say by gum the only way to fight the computer people is with your own computer people, and the federation gets the daystrom institute to give data's dad all the illegal nanotech, cybernetics and genetic engineering research and builds an army of robots, war holograms and biotechnological malware and just goes loving hog wild on the borgs. the binars help too i guess, they're fun I think if you start talking about things like posthuman consciousness and self-replicating swarm entities instead of how much you enjoyed Riker’s latest jazz recital, section 31 makes sure you have a “shuttlecraft accident”
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corn in the bible posted:If so, then I'm glad we never saw it because it sounds lame as gently caress this is how u get cybermen -dr who?
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he forgot about the part where his self-insert becomes an honorary klingon and then has sex with a lady
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chaosbreather posted:somewhere there's an alternate universe where the admiral jumps up and say by gum the only way to fight the computer people is with your own computer people, and the federation gets the daystrom institute to give data's dad all the illegal nanotech, cybernetics and genetic engineering research and builds an army of robots, war holograms and biotechnological malware and just goes loving hog wild on the borgs. the binars help too i guess, they're fun At this point why not get super Barclay to fix it?
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At that point it is revealed that the Borg's and the Federation's one weakness is a spiked cock with dual piss streams, and the Klingons space around pissing on everyone while Jeff Goldbloom as the new Klingon Emperor shouts "life finds a way". Then everyone applauds.
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Feb 21, 2018 17:39
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simplefish posted:Riker's clearly meant to be Kirk-But-With-Things-Still To Learn Wasn't his characters name even originally William T Kirk, and he was supposed to be Kirks grandson or something? Until everyone realized it was cool to not be dumb whilst making tv shows
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And Marina Sirtis was supposed to be Yar And Troi was supposed to have three titty
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MA-Horus posted:And Troi was supposed to have three titty Three different sized titty
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Feb 21, 2018 20:28
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Gene: THERE SHOULD BE A TELEPATH ON THE BRIDGE THAT CAN ADVISE THE CAPTAIN Writers: Ok, that's not a bad id- Gene: AND SHE SHOULD HAVE THREE TITS Writers: ...what? why? GENE: AND TWO TITS ARE THE SAME SIZE, THE THIRD TIT CAN BE SMALLER. BUT STILL BIG. I MEAN, REAL BIG.
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Feb 21, 2018 20:30
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Automatic Slim posted:At this point why not get super Barclay to fix it? imagine plugging a pair of binars into the super barclay machine and getting like quad dmg on the mega brain..... WOW!
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Feb 21, 2018 20:52
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MA-Horus posted:Gene: THERE SHOULD BE A TELEPATH ON THE BRIDGE THAT CAN ADVISE THE CAPTAIN g*d bless'em
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MA-Horus posted:And Troi was supposed to have three titty "I said drat it monsta, I aint giving you no tree fiddy!"
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Feb 21, 2018 21:11
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Troi would of been a much better character with 3 titties
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Blistex posted:"I said drat it monsta, I aint giving you no tree tiddy!"
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Automatic Slim posted:"Encounter At Farpoint" was a pilot and those are pretty rough to begin with. The difference between most series' pilots and first real episodes are often remarkable. Add that the first two seasons of Star Trek are really mediocre television, you've got a real rough introduction. No, it wasn't. A pilot is developed to sell a show; Paramount committed in advance to producing a full season of TNG. Encounter at Farpoint is just the first episode. It's disjointed and rough because there was total chaos behind the scenes. A big part of the reason TNG season 1 is so rough, especially the first part, is that Gene Roddenberry was completely out of his mind on old age, pills, liquor, cocaine, and paranoia. He'd give script notes to writers that hadn't written the script. He'd say he loved an idea one day and then poo poo all over it the next day. He and his rabid lawyer Leonard Maizlish were so busy trying to make sure none of the staff could pull a coup and usurp him that nobody could get the goddamn scripts ready on time; The Naked Now came about because they were already behind schedule in getting scripts developed and written. He pawned off so much of the writers' bible to David Gerrold (and then screwed Gerrold on pay) that when Gerrold finally had enough and quit, Paramount had to pay off Gerrold or face a lawsuit where Gerrold could have been awarded a permanent co-creator credit on TNG. He wound up driving off all the old TOS people that he'd recruited to come start the show, and literally dozens of other writers. TNG season 1 burned through over thirty writers and developed such a toxic reputation the show had a hard time getting people to come write for it. Farmer Crack-Ass fucked around with this message at 03:04 on Feb 22, 2018 |
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Feb 22, 2018 03:02
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MA-Horus posted:Gene: THERE SHOULD BE A TELEPATH ON THE BRIDGE THAT CAN ADVISE THE CAPTAIN Dorothy Fontana's response was reportedly more along the lines of "uh, two breasts already get in the way as is, where the hell are you going to fit a third??"
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Chaos on the Bridge is a documentary about how nutso the development of the TNG was and it's available on Netflix. It's worth a watch.
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why is harry kim even commanding this alien ship this makes no sense who thought it was a good idea he just got mutinied
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:No, it wasn't. A pilot is developed to sell a show; Paramount committed in advance to producing a full season of TNG. Encounter at Farpoint is just the first episode. It's disjointed and rough because there was total chaos behind the scenes. I love this man more and more. The reason why I thought it was the pilot is pilots try things and actors and then retool for the rest of the season. For example, the uniskirt. Troi wears one, Yar wears one, and that one dude on deck six wears one. You never see it again for the rest of the season. With good reason. e: What the gently caress are old age pills?
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Automatic Slim posted:e: What the gently caress are old age pills? Heart medication, and anti-dementia pills?
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Automatic Slim posted:I love this man more and more. it says "old age, pills". might as well ask what "old age pills liquor cocaine" is.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:it says "old age, pills". might as well ask what "old age pills liquor cocaine" is. i cant wait to get my hands on some
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To be fair, it’s not hard to imagine Gene taking his pills, liquor, and cocaine in one big 20oz slurry
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Big Mean Jerk posted:To be fair, it’s not hard to imagine Gene taking his pills, liquor, and cocaine in one big 20oz slurry Sign me up for that.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:To be fair, it’s not hard to imagine Gene taking his pills, liquor, and cocaine in one big 20oz slurry 
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Automatic Slim posted:I love this man more and more. I watched it last night but maybe I didn't notice - Yar wore trousers I thought. It's the 2 Warp Core Women that have one, Troi, and the Deck Six Dude gimme the GOD drat candy posted:it says "old age, pills". might as well ask what "old age pills liquor cocaine" is. I mean if you take some Victorian cough syrup and some Victorian toothache pills, that's your whole set plus morphine and chlorophorm e:f,b My face Old Timey Cure has to be the X-Ray (or was it UV?) viewing machine - stare into its goggles to "improve" your eyesight. But probably end up more like Geordi. simplefish fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Feb 22, 2018 |
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first time i watched the bulk of enterprise was during a particularly bad cold and high as hell on cough syrup great show
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simplefish posted:I watched it last night but maybe I didn't notice - Yar wore trousers I thought. It's the 2 Warp Core Women that have one, Troi, and the Deck Six Dude Yar wore the miniskirt briefly at the end of "Encounter at Farpoint". It's a bad look for the head of Security. Maybe Worf could pull it off, though. I thought old age pills would be Viagra but that didn't come around until the end of the 90s.
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Poor Gene would have held on another twenty years if he had known boner pills were so close to being a reality 
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Tricky D posted:Chaos on the Bridge is a documentary about how nutso the development of the TNG was and it's available on Netflix. It's worth a watch. This was a good recommendation, thanks Automatic Slim posted:Yar wore the miniskirt briefly at the end of "Encounter at Farpoint". It's a bad look for the head of Security. Maybe Worf could pull it off, though. Ah right. Btw, there's another uniskirt dude in S1E5 briefly that I just saw.
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numberoneposter posted:why is harry kim even commanding this alien ship this makes no sense who thought it was a good idea he just got mutinied He's been commanding the third watch a bunch of times and wants to try to show he can command a ship without Diktator Janeway being a frantic comm message away, so it IS a bad episode, but the setup is sound. Besides, the real question is why an ENSIGN has command of the third watch instead of a lieutenant or higher  .Incidentally, Voyager also completely lacks a second officer. Presumably because Janeway doesn't share power if she can help it. Even the self-destruct only needs her personal authorization instead of any two senior officers.
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Clark Nova posted:Poor Gene would have held on another twenty years if he had known boner pills were so close to being a reality Hopefully by that time he would have learned that you never go "back to front".
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Feb 22, 2018 07:22
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Ensigns stand Officer of the Deck all the time on real ships and Captains almost never do.
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Blistex posted:Hopefully by that time he would have learned that you never go "back to front".  Perhaps it's a good thing Gene isn't around to face the #MeToo movement.
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