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Rat Patrol
Feb 15, 2008

kill kill kill kill
kill me now

effika posted:

Merrick Purrfect Bistro doesn't come in anything larger than 5.5oz cans, right?

Our 13 year old cat lost a pound in the last 6 months without us really trying. There are possible reasons (she has a new cat tree and we finally found a toy she likes, different food for that time frame) and she's got great blood work, so the vet isn't worried as long as we can get her to gain a quarter to half pound of it back.

I figured we'd just feed more of her usual food, but it looks like Purrfect Bistro cans don't come in nice big sizes that I can just scoop out the right weight.

I suppose we could also add some dry kibble in, but the less complicated feeding time is the better. (This cat loves crunchy food and I'm sure this is her preferred solution.)

Could your cat be a grazer? Maybe you could leave some dry out all day and she could just nibble on it throughout the day? Obviously not an option if your cat is one of those cats that has to empty the food bowl immediately (like both of mine)

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effika
Jun 19, 2005
Birds do not want you to know any more than you already do.

Huntersoninski posted:

Could your cat be a grazer? Maybe you could leave some dry out all day and she could just nibble on it throughout the day? Obviously not an option if your cat is one of those cats that has to empty the food bowl immediately (like both of mine)

She's a fellow scarf-and-barfer!

When we fed dry we had a puzzle ball for her and she'd push it into a corner so she wouldn't have to chase the ball around for food. She'd paw at it until it was all gone.

Maybe we'll throw some dry in the puzzle ball again just for kicks. It'll take her five minutes instead of 30s to eat it then.

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005

Joburg posted:

Can you get some subq fluids from the vet to give at home? We have been doing that for our pancreatitis cat. It’s no fun for her or us but it’s easier than dragging her to the vet repeatedly.

Hey Joburg, can I ask you how handling the pancreatitis cat is going and what you have to do for it? Our cat started having more problems (same symptoms, blah blah), and this time they did an ultrasound and found the massively enlarged pancreas. :( I get to join you in the pancreatitis fun, it looks like. We're getting a tutorial on home subq tomorrow.

And of course we got this diagnosis literally two days before we're getting on a plane to India for two weeks and can't line up a vet boarding facility in this area only a day. Our poor damned pet-sitter is gonna freak. :(

Joburg
May 19, 2013


Fun Shoe

Sundae posted:

Hey Joburg, can I ask you how handling the pancreatitis cat is going and what you have to do for it? Our cat started having more problems (same symptoms, blah blah), and this time they did an ultrasound and found the massively enlarged pancreas. :( I get to join you in the pancreatitis fun, it looks like. We're getting a tutorial on home subq tomorrow.

And of course we got this diagnosis literally two days before we're getting on a plane to India for two weeks and can't line up a vet boarding facility in this area only a day. Our poor damned pet-sitter is gonna freak. :(

Bad timing!

Our cat is doing better. We haven’t had her blood work redone in the last month but the last one we did was better. Her lipase was still very high but getting lower. She is eating more (not a lot) but she acts happier.

She gets a 1/4 pill of Cerenia every other day for nausea and a b12 shot once a week. She had a dental 2 weeks ago (9 teeth pulled!) and since then she’s been drinking more so we’ve discontinued the subq fluids. She was on an appetite stimulant but it didn’t work for her. And we also tried a pro (pre?) biotic but she would not eat it. The Cerenia has really made the most difference for our cat, I think she’s been losing weight due to nausea. Pilling her really sucks though. Hopefully your cat likes pill pockets.

If you can get yours to eat watered down canned food then maybe your cat can get by without the subq fluids while you are away.

Good luck with your cat and your trip!

Joburg
May 19, 2013


Fun Shoe
I forgot to mention that she’s also on buprenorphine for pain, and that has helped too. It’s a squirt in the mouth twice a day. Mainly for pain from the dental procedure but I’m sure pancreatitis is painful too...

Paul MaudDib
May 3, 2006

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Socialization is going pretty well.



Abbott (on bottom) is an exceptionally cool kitty. Karl is less cool with dogs, or box fans, or anything else, but he's making progress. He's actually been hanging out with Abbott all night, and less than a week ago he wasn't eating much at all.

The vet thought he was less than a year old based on the plaque on his teeth. Pretty sure he can learn at that stage of things. Biggest thing is going to be getting Karl to poop in the Litter Robot, and getting Abbott to stop pooping in Karl's box upstairs. And getting everyone to eat nicely, of course (not together, Abbott wolfs too).

Karl is going back to the vet's to get tutored this week, so he'll enjoy that too.

Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 09:27 on Feb 21, 2018

DigitalRaven
Oct 9, 2012




Hello cat-thread!

I have two kittens, ~10 months old (they were rescued at three weeks and fostered until I got them at 8 weeks). Sinister is all-black, Dexter is a tuxedo-cat.


8 weeks old

Sinister has got into the habit of climbing the doors, and using them as a springboard to the tops of cupboards, bookshelves, and the like. Thing is, I use that space as storage, so he starts knocking stuff down and getting himself in a state as he can't get down. This morning, he knocked a box of stuff off the top of the cupboard in my bedroom that missed my head by about a centimetre.

Is there any way I can make the tops of the doors uncomfortable to him? I can't close the doors for any length of time --- one of them's to the kitchen, where their food & water is.

Bitter apple spray doesn't deter them, and they like running on tinfoil. I was considering using velcro tape (the prickly bit). They have a multi-platform cat-tower that is taller than I am, and both of them like the platforms on it, but Sinister is a climby bastard.

I'm aware that the answer is probably "nothing you can do, it is a cat", but I'll take any suggestions.


Sinister in a drawer

Going to stick a bunch more photos in the cat pics thread.

Organza Quiz
Nov 7, 2009


That’s a tricky one yeah. I’d keep trying different textures like you’re doing, unless you can arrange the stuff on the surface he’s jumping to so that it’s blocked off from him jumping there?

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-Pet-...SWQRPFPZ5FJTB6T

It's low adherence double sided tape. Both my cats dont like touching it and once they're trained, you can pull it off easy.

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin
Jul 19, 2000


Oven Wrangler
Any tips for games to play with cats, and toys or other things that let cats self-entertain a bit? We've got an indoor cat who I think gets quite bored. Letting her outside is a no go (we live in a 3rd floor flat) and we probably can't get another cat to keep her company. She's seems tired of the games we play with her now - she'll poke and meow like she wants to play, and sometimes get a little bitey if I'm just sitting working on something and refuse to entertain her, but the usual recommended games she either never liked (laser pointer) or has gotten bored of (chasing a string, small stuffed toys, fetch with scrunched paper balls, hide and seek, etc.). She has a nice cat tree, places to perch, balls, toys, and so on, but I still think she's understimulated, and it's probably worse when she's alone in the flat, like she is a couple days a week, or longer when we're away somewhere and just have a sitter come in a couple times a day.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

My cats favorite game is for me to tease them with a feather wand poking it out from under a blanket at them. They have fun trying to catch it or just pouncing the towel. They also enjoy Da Bird. I also put out birdseed on my window ledge to attract birds for them to watch. If thats not an option try videos of birds!

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin
Jul 19, 2000


Oven Wrangler
Yep we've got some bird feeder action happening. But she's not much of a bird fan - we've got a couple feather toys and she only likes the one that looks like a mouse. Generally she seems to prefer furry things. Her favourite toy ever is a bit of hair that my partner had to cut off when something got all gummed up in it. She'll chase it around like she wants it to absolutely loving die. Second favourite toy seems to be those sheets of packing paper you get with amazon deliveries, so we do the "ahh it's hiding! get it!" game underneath that. Still, she's getting bored of that as well.

Rat Patrol
Feb 15, 2008

kill kill kill kill
kill me now
My cats will usually settle down to watch videos of aquariums on YouTube. Some people upload hours of footage specifically for cats. Squirrels, birds, fish, it's out there. You can test some videos out and see, make a playlist and let it run. But while you're gone during the day, your cat is probably sleeping like, 90% of that time.

Organza Quiz
Nov 7, 2009


I felt like I was in a constant arms race to keep Pepper entertained for a while and my eventual solution was to take her out on a harness for a bit of an explore every afternoon, which may not be viable (eventual eventual solution was another cat and a house I could put a cat run in at but that’s even less convenient).

One easy game she still likes though is soccer with a small rubber bouncy ball. If I got her into a corner I could roll the ball at her and have her bat it back forever.

effika
Jun 19, 2005
Birds do not want you to know any more than you already do.
Our cat prefers furry stuff, too. She especially likes rabbit furs and mink tails. One of her favorite games is Keep Away, where we toss the mink tail back and forth over her so she can swat it out of the air.

Sound may be something you can look into, too. Anything with jingle bells must be destroyed in our house. Tissue paper (and Amazon parcel paper) is left out on the floor sometimes so she can rush it. Plastic grocery bags under a blanket or towel make a pleasing crinkle sound.

Those small foam sports balls are fun-- light enough to get some good speed when it's being batted, and soft enough for claws and teeth to sink into. For speed when batted, easter eggs and shaving gel caps are also fun. (We have discovered our cat can best see the bright green ones, so Gillette with Aloe it is for Mr. effika.)

Try using the stuff she already likes in new ways-- see if she'll fetch, or run after something, or if she wants something thrown to her so she can catch it and disembowel it.


DigitalRaven posted:

Hello cat-thread!

I have two kittens, ~10 months old (they were rescued at three weeks and fostered until I got them at 8 weeks). Sinister is all-black, Dexter is a tuxedo-cat.


8 weeks old

Sinister has got into the habit of climbing the doors, and using them as a springboard to the tops of cupboards, bookshelves, and the like. Thing is, I use that space as storage, so he starts knocking stuff down and getting himself in a state as he can't get down. This morning, he knocked a box of stuff off the top of the cupboard in my bedroom that missed my head by about a centimetre.

Is there any way I can make the tops of the doors uncomfortable to him? I can't close the doors for any length of time --- one of them's to the kitchen, where their food & water is.

Bitter apple spray doesn't deter them, and they like running on tinfoil. I was considering using velcro tape (the prickly bit). They have a multi-platform cat-tower that is taller than I am, and both of them like the platforms on it, but Sinister is a climby bastard.

I'm aware that the answer is probably "nothing you can do, it is a cat", but I'll take any suggestions.


Sinister in a drawer

Going to stick a bunch more photos in the cat pics thread.

Try making a climbing wall for him away from anything breakable? It probably won't help with getting on cupboards and shelving, but it will give him an outlet. I second the double-sided tape. Also a coke can with pennies in it, placed to fall, might startle the cat enough to stay away. (Emphasis on might.)

Gorgar
Dec 2, 2012

effika posted:

Those small foam sports balls are fun-- light enough to get some good speed when it's being batted, and soft enough for claws and teeth to sink into. For speed when batted, easter eggs and shaving gel caps are also fun. (We have discovered our cat can best see the bright green ones, so Gillette with Aloe it is for Mr. effika.)

The foam balls are pretty good. So are ping pong balls, both the super light crappy ones and the slightly heavier enthusiast ones. Also, Jackson Galaxy's Cat Dice, which are a heavier foam rubber but aren't round, so they bounce oddly. Mine get good use out of all of those. The kitten seems to especially like ping pong balls bounced off a wall, for some reason.

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

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Toilet Rascal
Anyone have experience repairing cat tree perches? I've used one for a few years now, and they've become really wobbly to the point that they pop off if my cats jump on them with a lot of ferocity. I'm not sure if the answer is to just toss it or if they're salvageable.

This is the tree, for reference:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005R4I7WM/ref=oh_aui_i_sh_in_o0_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin
Jul 19, 2000


Oven Wrangler

Gorgar posted:

The foam balls are pretty good. So are ping pong balls, both the super light crappy ones and the slightly heavier enthusiast ones. Also, Jackson Galaxy's Cat Dice, which are a heavier foam rubber but aren't round, so they bounce oddly. Mine get good use out of all of those. The kitten seems to especially like ping pong balls bounced off a wall, for some reason.
Mine can't deal with ping pong balls. I think she gets scared by the sound of them bouncing. Foam or rubber balls are a good call though, will see what she thinks of those...

redreader
Nov 2, 2009

I am the coolest person ever with my pirate chalice. Seriously.

Dinosaur Gum
We have a bit of cat fighting and one scared cat. I put a cat run accessible from two places in the living room (the cat tower and another shelf) along the top of the living room. There's a place on a mantlepiece where we put a box with a cat mat in it that one cat likes to sleep on. There are various other places for the cats to go (bed, chairs, chairs under the dining table, couch, mat next to a window) but I want to have a box or something for scared cats to go into. Is there a preferred product or should I just use a closed cardboard box and cut a hole on one end for cats to go in/out of? One 8 year old boy is a bit uncomfortable with a 2 year old cat and some 8 month old kittens.

edit: ^^^^ I have that exact same cat tree I think. No repairs needed yet but we do sometimes have to re-screw in the platforms.

redreader fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Feb 22, 2018

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Cardboard boxes are what you want. Throw a towel inside, leave one side open. Great value for money.

JARATE CURES SPIES
Mar 25, 2013


Does anyone have any advice for how to get through the grieving process.
I had to put my cat down today. She was with me since she was born as a surprise in an underwear drawer, and she was in my arms when she passed.
She's been with me for the majority of my life at this point. 13 years. I'm 24.
This feels unreal. She was attached to me like glue. All she ever wanted was to be at my side and she has always been my universal constant. She was the reason I put off suicide.
I feel so completely lost and alone and my room is so utterly empty I'm oscillating between bawling and utter shock.
And I can feel the terror creeping in. I'm never going to have a cat like her ever again. She was always by my side. I was the only one who could pet her. She was utterly in love with me. She would always greet me when I came home. She slept in my bed, crawled under the covers with me when it was cold, she utterly adored me and she as the world to me.
All of that is gone.

Paul MaudDib
May 3, 2006

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Bufoh posted:

Does anyone have any advice for how to get through the grieving process.
I had to put my cat down today. She was with me since she was born as a surprise in an underwear drawer, and she was in my arms when she passed.
She's been with me for the majority of my life at this point. 13 years. I'm 24.
This feels unreal. She was attached to me like glue. All she ever wanted was to be at my side and she has always been my universal constant. She was the reason I put off suicide.
I feel so completely lost and alone and my room is so utterly empty I'm oscillating between bawling and utter shock.
And I can feel the terror creeping in. I'm never going to have a cat like her ever again. She was always by my side. I was the only one who could pet her. She was utterly in love with me. She would always greet me when I came home. She slept in my bed, crawled under the covers with me when it was cold, she utterly adored me and she as the world to me.
All of that is gone.

The only thing I can say is that pets are just as much a member of the family as any other. Your feelings of loss+grief are legitimate and it hurts like hell, and you'll have to process it in your own way. Talk to your family and friends.

The wonderful thing about pets is that you can be their whole world for multiple pets. When you're ready, find another pet who needs a home, and they will love you just as much, but in their own slightly different way.

Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Feb 22, 2018

POOL IS CLOSED
Jul 14, 2011

I'm just exploding with mackerel. This is the aji wo kutta of my discontent.
Pillbug

Bufoh posted:

Does anyone have any advice for how to get through the grieving process.
I had to put my cat down today. She was with me since she was born as a surprise in an underwear drawer, and she was in my arms when she passed.
She's been with me for the majority of my life at this point. 13 years. I'm 24.
This feels unreal. She was attached to me like glue. All she ever wanted was to be at my side and she has always been my universal constant. She was the reason I put off suicide.
I feel so completely lost and alone and my room is so utterly empty I'm oscillating between bawling and utter shock.
And I can feel the terror creeping in. I'm never going to have a cat like her ever again. She was always by my side. I was the only one who could pet her. She was utterly in love with me. She would always greet me when I came home. She slept in my bed, crawled under the covers with me when it was cold, she utterly adored me and she as the world to me.
All of that is gone.

I lost two this last year. One was pretty much the same as your case. I had her since she was just weaned. Near sixteen years, more than half my life. All I can say is try to think about the good times whenever your grief is overwhelming. You got to be with her at the end. That's a gift. She was a good friend. You might have another, different good cat friend one day. For now though be kind to yourself.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Add me to the list of people with cats licking their bellies and legs until all the fur is gone.

My 5-year-old cat's been doing that now for a few months. We moved in July of last year, but we didn't notice her fur thinning until about December. She's been on the same food for longer than that, and the same brand of litter since July. I took her to the vet back in December and the takeaway was basically "I dunno, cats do this kind of thing, it's not uncommon, we could try steroids but it probably wouldn't do anything if it's anxiety :shrug:".

We're going to try changing her litter back to what it was before we moved, but if it turns out it's an anxiety thing she's developed since moving (there are some fairly loud dogs a few doors down who might be barking during the day), or if it's a separation anxiety thing, what can we do while we're not there to help? Does Feliway help with this kind of thing?

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

My cat once vomited up a tapeworm that was the size of a used condom. How does that work? I thought tapeworms were in the butt.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Bufoh posted:

Does anyone have any advice for how to get through the grieving process.
I had to put my cat down today. She was with me since she was born as a surprise in an underwear drawer, and she was in my arms when she passed.
She's been with me for the majority of my life at this point. 13 years. I'm 24.
This feels unreal. She was attached to me like glue. All she ever wanted was to be at my side and she has always been my universal constant. She was the reason I put off suicide.
I feel so completely lost and alone and my room is so utterly empty I'm oscillating between bawling and utter shock.
And I can feel the terror creeping in. I'm never going to have a cat like her ever again. She was always by my side. I was the only one who could pet her. She was utterly in love with me. She would always greet me when I came home. She slept in my bed, crawled under the covers with me when it was cold, she utterly adored me and she as the world to me.
All of that is gone.

In 2013 I lost my Teeko, who was 18 at the time; I was 27. It broke my heart, he was the only thing I had at times when I was a kid, and he was the sweetest and gentlest boy. I know just how you feel, that desolate sorrow. It's an unfathomable cruelty of the universe that our lifespans and our pets' are so mismatched.

There isn't much to say that can really help, but remember that you gave her a world of plenty and love that would be beyond belief to her wild ancestors. You gave her a life that was free of fear, of pain, of hunger, of cold. She had all the love in the world, food and water, play, pets, care, everything. You gave that little kitty thirteen years of life that couldn't be bettered in Heaven itself. As time passes you'll find that your memories of her are less painful, and you can remember the good times you had together and smile.

And no, there isn't going to be another cat like her. She was unique. They all are, and that's both a source of pain and a source of wonder and hope. In time, when you feel up to it, you might find yourself getting another cat. And they're going to be unique and special in all their own amazing ways. Adopting a pet after one passes doesn't replace the one who has passed on, but it isn't meant to. Think of it this way; if she could tell you now, what would your girl say? I bet it would be "I've had to go on ahead, and it's natural to feel this grief, but when you're ready I want you to take all that love and care you gave me, and find another animal who needs it, and give it to them."

Lastly, when you say put off suicide, I hope that this is something which is in the past, but if it's still a current concern please find someone to ask for help. You will be okay, in time.

:glomp:

Lyndon LaRouche
Sep 5, 2006

by Azathoth

Bufoh posted:

Does anyone have any advice for how to get through the grieving process.
I had to put my cat down today. She was with me since she was born as a surprise in an underwear drawer, and she was in my arms when she passed.
She's been with me for the majority of my life at this point. 13 years. I'm 24.
This feels unreal. She was attached to me like glue. All she ever wanted was to be at my side and she has always been my universal constant. She was the reason I put off suicide.
I feel so completely lost and alone and my room is so utterly empty I'm oscillating between bawling and utter shock.
And I can feel the terror creeping in. I'm never going to have a cat like her ever again. She was always by my side. I was the only one who could pet her. She was utterly in love with me. She would always greet me when I came home. She slept in my bed, crawled under the covers with me when it was cold, she utterly adored me and she as the world to me.
All of that is gone.

I'm sorry for your loss. Your feelings are normal and natural. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

I had to make the difficult decision to put down our work kitty a few months ago. I only knew him for a few years, but I helped care for and feed him and we quickly bonded. I completely lost it when we took him to the vet one last time and said goodbye to him. I can't imagine how you must feel saying goodbye to a friend that's been there for you for the majority of your life.

Please reach out if you need someone to talk to.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Katt posted:

My cat once vomited up a tapeworm that was the size of a used condom. How does that work? I thought tapeworms were in the butt.

They're in the digestive system, usually but not always the lower intestines.

redreader
Nov 2, 2009

I am the coolest person ever with my pirate chalice. Seriously.

Dinosaur Gum

Harrow posted:

Add me to the list of people with cats licking their bellies and legs until all the fur is gone.

My 5-year-old cat's been doing that now for a few months. We moved in July of last year, but we didn't notice her fur thinning until about December. She's been on the same food for longer than that, and the same brand of litter since July. I took her to the vet back in December and the takeaway was basically "I dunno, cats do this kind of thing, it's not uncommon, we could try steroids but it probably wouldn't do anything if it's anxiety :shrug:".

We're going to try changing her litter back to what it was before we moved, but if it turns out it's an anxiety thing she's developed since moving (there are some fairly loud dogs a few doors down who might be barking during the day), or if it's a separation anxiety thing, what can we do while we're not there to help? Does Feliway help with this kind of thing?

Yep we took our scared boy (who does that) in, and the vet said there was no skin issue and tried giving us antihistamines, and then anti-anxiety/depression meds when that didn't work. Now I'm giving the cat antidepression meds and he still licks but is less scared of everyone including me, so I suppose that's a win. I figure, whatever, he seems happy apart from the licking habit. The vet said that they could give him cat xanax but 'he'll never be able to stop taking it, and it's very strong' so I think we're leaving him in the state he's in with the meds he's already taking.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Bufoh posted:

Does anyone have any advice for how to get through the grieving process.
I had to put my cat down today. She was with me since she was born as a surprise in an underwear drawer, and she was in my arms when she passed.
She's been with me for the majority of my life at this point. 13 years. I'm 24.
This feels unreal. She was attached to me like glue. All she ever wanted was to be at my side and she has always been my universal constant. She was the reason I put off suicide.
I feel so completely lost and alone and my room is so utterly empty I'm oscillating between bawling and utter shock.
And I can feel the terror creeping in. I'm never going to have a cat like her ever again. She was always by my side. I was the only one who could pet her. She was utterly in love with me. She would always greet me when I came home. She slept in my bed, crawled under the covers with me when it was cold, she utterly adored me and she as the world to me.
All of that is gone.

I lost Macro, he was the best cat. I have no words to help you other than when you're ready, get another cat. No it won't be the same, but cats are the best thing in the world, don't deny yourself out of loyalty/grief.

Fabulousity
Dec 29, 2008

Number One I order you to take a number two.

So I have two cats and one is having a poop issue and the vet isn't really sure what's going on. The cat in question is a male domestic long hair and for the past six-ish months he's been increasingly pooping in the areas around the litter boxes but not in the boxes themselves. He still urinates exclusively in the boxes but only poops in them maybe 25% of the time these days. This would be annoying but livable if not for the nature of the turds themselves: The poop tends to be quite small, dense, dark colored, and often with some thick viscous mucousy stuff that has the physical properties of liquid tar. It's a real bitch and a half to clean out of the carpet. The turds are usually singular and about as small or smaller than a typical chapstick tube. This is not normal compared to the other cat who produces bowel movements consisting for three or more segments in neat piles that are generally firm. The vet did blood and urine analysis in January and only found that the cat may have hyperthyroidism but otherwise everything else was normal. They said the poop problems could be a result of that but I have a feeling something else is going on.

Behaviorally the cat does seem to be suffering from some sort of general anxiety that started around a year ago. When I first got him he was fearless and happily explored all over the house. Then I moved to a new place and he became apprehensive about going down the hallway. He'll usually hole up in one part of the house for most of any given day and when it comes time to move around he walks around like he's expecting the walls themselves to potentially attack him. The other cat is completely unaffected and just happily does his own thing. Any ideas?

As an additional note the other cat experienced sudden weight loss when I moved and hasn't gained it back: Dropped from 15 pounds to 11. Otherwise his blood and urine work is clean (as of November) and he isn't having any behavioral or poop issues. The poop issue cat has lost about a pound over the last year but is otherwise still a healthy weight.

Age: 12-ish - He was estimated to be 10 years old when I adopted him
Sex: Male
How long have you had your cat? 2 years
Is your cat spayed or neutered? Yes
What food do you use? BFF pouches, Purina Beyond, canned tuna, sometimes dry Iams if we can keep the other cat out of it - Poop cat likes to graze but the other cat is a scarfer-barfer
When was your last vet visit? Early January
Is your cat indoors, outdoors, both? Indoors only
How many pets in your household? One other cat
How many litter boxes do you have? Two, scooped daily

And just because, the offender is the orange one on the right:

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

:italy: Glory to Italia! :italy:

Ayy!! This text is-a the color of marinara! Ohhhh!! Dat's amore!!
Can't say I have a clear idea, but you might try a second vet's opinion for the pooper. Maybe switch to all wet or all dry to make sure it's not a particular food. Feliway for the potential anxiety.

lizard_phunk
Oct 23, 2003

Alt Girl For Norge
My cat is a rescue, I've had her 10 years and while she's now very happy and healthy, I know that she is easily stressed and takes a few months to settle in well.



We are moving houses in a month or so. She really loves the house we're living in now and is super comfortable.
She has moved many times before (even transported by plane), but those times she had her buddy, a huge male cat she really felt safe around.
He passed some years ago, and she's become bigger and tougher, but I still feel moving without him will be especially stressful for her.

This is the first time I've moved with my cat from a house (rented) to another house (bought). Previously, we only switched apartments, which meant that there wasn't loads of furniture to be moved around.

I wanted your advice on my plan for moving:

My husband and I plan to take some days off to first move a substantial amount of furniture to the new house.
Frida will stay at the old house while we're doing this (we leave one bed, sleep there at night and come back throughout the days to socialize with her).

When we have placed most of the important furniture and some of her things ("her" little carpets, toy tunnels, cat tower), we bring her to the new house.
I thought that we keep her in one room with some familiar things for at least one day (until she's calmed down and wants to explore), then I stay at home with her for a few days so she feels safe.

We can do it this way because we're moving smack in the middle of Easter, which is an official holiday over here.

Do you have any other suggestions? Perhaps I seem neurotic but I really love my little furry reptile and since she's getting older I want to be extra considerate.



Other points:
- she has been indoors only for many years and will continue to be so.
- dogs (and a huge parrot!) have lived in the house we're moving to, there are some carpets there (ew) - should I rub something like feliway or catnip on them in advance?
- I thought I would keep her now "old" litter box just to make sure she recognizes it .
(edit: she's about 15 years old)

lizard_phunk fucked around with this message at 10:46 on Feb 24, 2018

lizard_phunk
Oct 23, 2003

Alt Girl For Norge

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:

Any tips for games to play with cats, and toys or other things that let cats self-entertain a bit? We've got an indoor cat who I think gets quite bored. Letting her outside is a no go (we live in a 3rd floor flat) and we probably can't get another cat to keep her company. She's seems tired of the games we play with her now - she'll poke and meow like she wants to play, and sometimes get a little bitey if I'm just sitting working on something and refuse to entertain her, but the usual recommended games she either never liked (laser pointer) or has gotten bored of (chasing a string, small stuffed toys, fetch with scrunched paper balls, hide and seek, etc.). She has a nice cat tree, places to perch, balls, toys, and so on, but I still think she's understimulated, and it's probably worse when she's alone in the flat, like she is a couple days a week, or longer when we're away somewhere and just have a sitter come in a couple times a day.

I have an indoors cat (see post above) who loves playing. I've spent absurd amounts of money on cats toys over the years. She couldn't care less about anything above $5.
The favorite activities are indeed "chasing a string, small stuffed toys, fetch with scrunched paper balls, hide and seek" (and rocketing up from behind the couch and running around like a maniac).

If your cat is really bored (I assume she has been at the vet/is healthy, I can't imagine my cat getting bored of paper balls!), maybe you could try to find a snack she REALLY loves and use it for play?

We have some snacks she's crazy about that we throw (she will run like crazy) or hide (it becomes a game to extract the snack). If we're away for more than a workday, we hide snacks in different places - they're always gone when we come back.

We also have a few scratching boards that she is allowed to decimate - we're not allowed to screw them into the walls (renting), but we have put them on the floor and she uses them several times a day.

Another favorite toy is this basket for dirty clothes (IKEA):

She loves "flying" in it (she will ask for it), but also entertains herself by yowling and rolling around in it (especially in the middle of the night). Using strings on the basket while she is inside is a great success.

And also, toys filled with catnip like this little felt crocodile:


Note that we put a towel on the washer for her to play on, this is her favorite place in the whole house. She loves attacking the towel (especially with a hand or two under it...).

By the way, she's much more vocal as an indoors cat. I really don't think she's bored, but she wants a lot of attention and will tell us. We also spend a lot of time just cuddling her when she asks for it.

edit: Oh, and I forgot THE TUNNEL. You can buy these really cheap at dollar stores. Here I've combined a tunnel with a box. There is a cat inside.

lizard_phunk fucked around with this message at 10:25 on Feb 24, 2018

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"
Can i just say it's awesome how all the requests for cat help come with cute cat pics?

Blackchamber
Jan 25, 2005

lizard_phunk posted:

Another favorite toy is this basket for dirty clothes (IKEA):

She loves "flying" in it (she will ask for it), but also entertains herself by yowling and rolling around in it (especially in the middle of the night). Using strings on the basket while she is inside is a great success.

My cats also enjoy these laundry baskets. I have huge gaping holes in mine now where they will push toy mice in and then fish for by jamming their arms through the holes they made. Creampuff likes to be spun around in it. I cant use it for dirty clothes though because CP will take whatever is in it out and then hide it under the bed, so its pretty much only a cat toy now.

slave to my cravings
Mar 1, 2007

Got my mind on doritos and doritos on my mind.

Fabulousity posted:

So I have two cats and one is having a poop issue and the vet isn't really sure what's going on. The cat in question is a male domestic long hair and for the past six-ish months he's been increasingly pooping in the areas around the litter boxes but not in the boxes themselves. He still urinates exclusively in the boxes but only poops in them maybe 25% of the time these days. This would be annoying but livable if not for the nature of the turds themselves: The poop tends to be quite small, dense, dark colored, and often with some thick viscous mucousy stuff that has the physical properties of liquid tar. It's a real bitch and a half to clean out of the carpet. The turds are usually singular and about as small or smaller than a typical chapstick tube. This is not normal compared to the other cat who produces bowel movements consisting for three or more segments in neat piles that are generally firm. The vet did blood and urine analysis in January and only found that the cat may have hyperthyroidism but otherwise everything else was normal. They said the poop problems could be a result of that but I have a feeling something else is going on.

Behaviorally the cat does seem to be suffering from some sort of general anxiety that started around a year ago. When I first got him he was fearless and happily explored all over the house. Then I moved to a new place and he became apprehensive about going down the hallway. He'll usually hole up in one part of the house for most of any given day and when it comes time to move around he walks around like he's expecting the walls themselves to potentially attack him. The other cat is completely unaffected and just happily does his own thing. Any ideas?

As an additional note the other cat experienced sudden weight loss when I moved and hasn't gained it back: Dropped from 15 pounds to 11. Otherwise his blood and urine work is clean (as of November) and he isn't having any behavioral or poop issues. The poop issue cat has lost about a pound over the last year but is otherwise still a healthy weight.

Age: 12-ish - He was estimated to be 10 years old when I adopted him
Sex: Male
How long have you had your cat? 2 years
Is your cat spayed or neutered? Yes
What food do you use? BFF pouches, Purina Beyond, canned tuna, sometimes dry Iams if we can keep the other cat out of it - Poop cat likes to graze but the other cat is a scarfer-barfer
When was your last vet visit? Early January
Is your cat indoors, outdoors, both? Indoors only
How many pets in your household? One other cat
How many litter boxes do you have? Two, scooped daily

And just because, the offender is the orange one on the right:


Sometimes one of my cats poops outside the box (he usually does it if I’m slacking on scooping, but it’s hard to predict). It doesn’t seem to be related to the type of poop (normal or other). We use big tubs from target for litter boxes and I put the lids of the tubs on the ground nearby to help catch the litter. When my cat does poop outside the box he exclusively does it on the lids. You could try putting some easily cleanable hard plastic thing near your litter boxes to try to save your carpet.

With regards to actually solving the problem - did you ever change the litter brand? Some cats dislike scented litter or changes in litter. How many litter boxes do you have? number of cats + 1 is a good rule for how many boxes you should have. Do you use any citrus scented cleaners? Cats really hate citrus and will use their own smells to cover them up. You could also consider changing his diet up a bit. You could try to get a variety of canned wet foods and see if there is one he likes and will eat up without it sitting out all day. My cats will consistently eat 1/4 of a 5.5 oz can of food without leaving any for later.

For the anxiety, you could try feliway. Are there any other cats or dogs nearby your house that could be upsetting him when he looks out a window? You could try to put up some cat shelves or a cat tree to give him a higher vantage point in a room. More cat toys and playtime may help too.

My guess is that the pooping, eating, and anxiety are all connected. If you can figure out the anxiety the other two may improve.

effika
Jun 19, 2005
Birds do not want you to know any more than you already do.

lizard_phunk posted:

My cat is a rescue, I've had her 10 years and while she's now very happy and healthy, I know that she is easily stressed and takes a few months to settle in well.



That's essentially what we did with our neurotic siamese when we moved. The goal was to have all the loud scary things happen in a familiar place. Also, save some dirty sweaty laundry to put around the house if she is not seeming very comfortable with it after a while. That helped our cat explore the new rooms. (Mr. effika still leaves his dirty socks in the living room for her to find & snuggle with even though the cat is fine. I think I trained him.)

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

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You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



lizard_phunk posted:

My cat is a rescue, I've had her 10 years and while she's now very happy and healthy, I know that she is easily stressed and takes a few months to settle in well.


Hello pretty girl! :allears: I think you probably have the right idea, disruption is stressful to cats so minimize it where you can, and get any big work done in the new house before she moves in if at all possible. You won't be able to totally avoid some disruption for her of course, but getting the new place into a reasonably steady situation from the start (from her perspective) will probably help her a bit; she wouldn't want to get to a new place, just start getting used to it, and then it all starts changing again around her.


quote:

- dogs (and a huge parrot!) have lived in the house we're moving to, there are some carpets there (ew) - should I rub something like feliway or catnip on them in advance?

Won't hurt! Also if you're concerned you could ask your vet to prescribe her some cat valium for a week or two, so you can dose her through the parts most likely to stress her out.

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ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

So I'm really worried about my cat Samantha.

About ~2 weeks ago she had to get boarded up in a animal hospital with our other cat Sunny as we needed a extermination done around the house. Sam got a booster for a shot and was told to come back in 2-3 weeks. When we got home Sam was a bit irate for a good chunk of the day but mostly fine after some time. Just kinda took it as nerves as she's a shy girl when she's not at home.

She just got her second shot on Friday and once again she went into a irate grumpycat kinda mood. Thing is it hasn't worn off really. Today it's actually gotten worse? I think? She's now moving in slow motion and refusing to go near anyone or eat her usual food. She accepts getting pet but after awhile she'll shake to her feet and *very* slowly walk a few steps before deciding it's enough and laying back down. If she's sitting up she's not looking forward but just staring at the ground with this sleepy look on her face. She lets me near her but none of the other animals (Sunny or my tiny old dog)

Has anyone dealt with this? She's never had a reaction like this to any other shots and it's got me really concerned :sigh:

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