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Mr. Despair posted:What if this isn't the first time Coyote's given Ysengrin his strength, not Ys would remember it He actually did 20 dry runs to make sure the result would properly terrify Annie and Smitty.
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Not sure if Ysengrin's gone mad with power or always been mad at Coyote's bullshit.
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Feb 20, 2018 15:16
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Mythologically speaking Coyote has always been his own worst enemy, especially when he convinces himself he's the hot poo poo. Entirely possible that he straight up didn't realize that Ysengrin has always admired him for his strength and power and that he was never personally loyal to him. Coyote loving up in this way is not unheard of, and we shouldn't forget that Coyote also routinely fucks up at the whole "being a god" thing. For example in some mythologies Coyote was hanging out with the Creator God but couldn't stop laughing, so everything he tried to make was garbo. Within Gunnerkrigg's mythology, Coyote famously hosed up at making people, hence the shadow people. So it's well established that Coyote, while powerful, isn't exactly competent. He just happened to cruise into a place where his power was sufficient to make him seem more competent than he is. He tricked himself.
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Coyote had always been a neat character to me because I grew up with this children's book with stories about coyote from my grandma inn new Mexico. So yes self owning is very much a coyote thing.
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Thought: Ysengrin with power becomes capricious and willful, i.e., Coyote. Coyote without power becomes stubborn, jealous and proud, i.e., Ysengrin. They've done this thousands of times.
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Feb 20, 2018 19:39
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This went in a direction I was not expecting.
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Feb 20, 2018 23:29
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Paramemetic posted:He just happened to cruise into a place where his power was sufficient to make him seem more competent than he is. He tricked himself. Let us not forget the lesson of the dead goose in a bush by a lake.
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Feb 21, 2018 00:22
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Poltergrift posted:Thought: Ysengrin with power becomes capricious and willful, i.e., Coyote. nah
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Feb 21, 2018 00:32
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Paramemetic posted:Mythologically speaking Coyote has always been his own worst enemy, especially when he convinces himself he's the hot poo poo. Entirely possible that he straight up didn't realize that Ysengrin has always admired him for his strength and power and that he was never personally loyal to him. Coyote loving up in this way is not unheard of, and we shouldn't forget that Coyote also routinely fucks up at the whole "being a god" thing. For example in some mythologies Coyote was hanging out with the Creator God but couldn't stop laughing, so everything he tried to make was garbo. Within Gunnerkrigg's mythology, Coyote famously hosed up at making people, hence the shadow people. So it's well established that Coyote, while powerful, isn't exactly competent. He just happened to cruise into a place where his power was sufficient to make him seem more competent than he is. He tricked himself. 
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Feb 21, 2018 06:07
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Yeah, time to go Annie.
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Feb 21, 2018 09:01
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Oh this isnt good.
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Feb 21, 2018 09:02
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Run.
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Feb 21, 2018 09:07
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That doesn't really seem like playful banter.
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Feb 21, 2018 09:08
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Haha, what a practical joker that Ysengrin is!
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Feb 21, 2018 09:09
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This might be a good time to be the moon for awhile, Coyote.
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Feb 21, 2018 09:13
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Thats very clever of Coyote though, playing dead while he's being attacked.
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Feb 21, 2018 09:28
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See? No blood.
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Feb 21, 2018 09:30
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Is ysengrin stealing the rest of coyote's powers?
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Feb 21, 2018 09:49
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Splicer posted:Is ysengrin stealing the rest of coyote's powers? Hard to say. There seems to be a formality to the process, since he had to accept the offer of one. It might be that they have to be given. Or maybe you can just eat them.
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Feb 21, 2018 10:15
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I hope this is like The Stone, 3 weeks of Ys tearing Coyote apart from multiple perspectives with the occasional terrified look from Annie & Smith
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Feb 21, 2018 10:26
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Coyote really cooked his goose on this one.
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Feb 21, 2018 11:29
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I think the stock phrase to reference here is "curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal".
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Feb 21, 2018 11:42
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I'm not quite sure how the action on this page follows from the last page, but then again Coyote is a shapeshifter, so maybe he shifted his neck out of the way.
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Feb 21, 2018 12:15
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Lurdiak posted:I'm not quite sure how the action on this page follows from the last page, but then again Coyote is a shapeshifter, so maybe he shifted his neck out of the way. That's certainly a thing he can do. Related.
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...Oh, yeah. Not counting making Shadow 3-D, Chekov's Gun there still hasn't fired.
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Feb 21, 2018 13:35
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Did he just pop open his chest, or am I looking at tree parts?
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Feb 21, 2018 13:35
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Pretty sure that's a ribcage.
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Feb 21, 2018 13:35
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It was at that moment that Annie understood why every adult had been telling her that the Forest was actually kind of messed up.  Also what's the over/under on Smitt's powers being the reason Coyote's plan went from "Step A" to "I did not foresee this!" immediately?
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Feb 21, 2018 13:39
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Samuringa posted:I hope this is like The Stone, 3 weeks of Ys tearing Coyote apart from multiple perspectives with the occasional terrified look from Annie & Smith And then the bonus page is Coyote just sitting up and going 'are you done yet?' and Ys is just 'yeah, had to try'.
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Parts Kit posted:It was at that moment that Annie understood why every adult had been telling her that the Forest was actually kind of messed up. I wouldn't actually bet on it.
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Feb 21, 2018 14:19
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For a scene that's supposed to be a huge dramatic twist, it feels kind of hampered by the fact that Coyote is a trickster. It doesn't have the same impact because the reader probably figures that all is not as it appears. The dramatic scene with Jeanne was also spoiled for different reasons. This comic doesn't really seem to frame drama well.
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Feb 21, 2018 14:45
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Looks like there's a new top dog.
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There Bias Two posted:For a scene that's supposed to be a huge dramatic twist, it feels kind of hampered by the fact that Coyote is a trickster. It doesn't have the same impact because the reader probably figures that all is not as it appears. I think the crux of the drama here is not "I hope Coyote is not dead", but "Oh gently caress, Ysengrin is abandoning all pretense of sanity".
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Feb 21, 2018 15:43
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Uh, Ysengrin, you've got some stuff in your teeth there...
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There Bias Two posted:For a scene that's supposed to be a huge dramatic twist, it feels kind of hampered by the fact that Coyote is a trickster. It doesn't have the same impact because the reader probably figures that all is not as it appears. Paramemetic posted:Mythologically speaking Coyote has always been his own worst enemy, especially when he convinces himself he's the hot poo poo. Entirely possible that he straight up didn't realize that Ysengrin has always admired him for his strength and power and that he was never personally loyal to him. Coyote loving up in this way is not unheard of, and we shouldn't forget that Coyote also routinely fucks up at the whole "being a god" thing. For example in some mythologies Coyote was hanging out with the Creator God but couldn't stop laughing, so everything he tried to make was garbo. Within Gunnerkrigg's mythology, Coyote famously hosed up at making people, hence the shadow people. So it's well established that Coyote, while powerful, isn't exactly competent. He just happened to cruise into a place where his power was sufficient to make him seem more competent than he is. He tricked himself. BrightWing posted:Coyote had always been a neat character to me because I grew up with this children's book with stories about coyote from my grandma inn new Mexico.  Trickster self owns generally tend to be very bad for them and everyone around them so I don't think I follow. This is bad. Very bad.Drunk Canuck posted:Run.
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OhFunny posted:Looks like there's a new top dog. An updog?
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What's "updog"?
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It's a dog eat dog world!  Ahahahahahaha!...but seriously though Coyote is gonna loving die.
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