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Well MS said they'll stop even the free assistive upgrades, but at least as of yesterday I upgraded my win8.1 pro to 10 pro with the media creation tool downloaded from microsoft.com So they say one thing and do another, not very surprising.
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I've still been using old rear end Windows 7 keys from poo poo netbooks to activate Windows 10. Did it last week again.
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Feb 19, 2018 18:14
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I would be really surprised if they ever close the Windows 7/81 key upgrade path.
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Feb 19, 2018 19:07
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mystes posted:Also if enterprise users disable the store functionality then there will probably be no paint application in their installations by default which would not be a great situation. Even if you disable the Store the pre-installed apps stay. Or at least usually stay, sometimes for some users on some PCs none of the modern apps show up at all. Which means no Calculator.
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Feb 19, 2018 19:39
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http://standa-note.blogspot.com/2018/02/amsi-bypass-with-null-character.html Goddamnit, Microsoft...
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Feb 19, 2018 21:03
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SwissArmyDruid posted:http://standa-note.blogspot.com/2018/02/amsi-bypass-with-null-character.html Anyone could make that mistake. 
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Feb 19, 2018 21:45
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Stanley Pain posted:Anyone could make that mistake. It's okay, you can trust user input, after all, what sort of user would insert null characters in their files?
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Feb 19, 2018 22:56
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I've had Win10 installed as my Bootcamp partition on a 2011 MBP since about Dec 2016 and the strangest thing happened today. (I'm on 1709 now) I fired up my laptop as usual and it immediately told me that my password for my personal local account needed to be changed. The only 2 active accounts I keep on this machine are my personal local account and Local Administrator. I have not, nor have I ever used Microsoft-Linked accounts in any way on this machine. I changed my password to something else, and then changed it right back. But I looked in Computer Management to check and my account had the checkmark to Never Expire. So now I'm immensely confused as to what could have triggered that.
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Feb 20, 2018 09:19
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Am I going crazy or are pinned Windows Store apps getting unstuck from the taskbar whenever they update?
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Feb 20, 2018 20:15
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Combat Pretzel posted:Am I going crazy or are pinned Windows Store apps getting unstuck from the taskbar whenever they update? That would not surprise me in the least. I know the Store App itself doesn't unpin when updated though.
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Feb 20, 2018 21:34
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My dad just bought a new laptop (Lenovo E series) and is worried about crapware. Is the Win10 restore PC feature good enough to blast everything off it, or should I download a Win10 ISO to reformat the whole thing?
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Feb 21, 2018 10:38
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Use microsoft's iso loader to make an install usb, yeah. e: "media creation tool"
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Feb 21, 2018 10:40
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I wanna put Windows 10 on a laptop I bought that didn’t come with a Windows license. What’s the cheapest way to get a legit Windows 10 license? I don’t have an existing Windows 7/8 key to upgrade from. A really quick search pointed me to some subreddits where people are selling all sorts of keys for ultra cheap but it sounds too good to be true.
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Feb 21, 2018 14:00
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Hit up ebay, pro licences for less than $5 are a thing now.
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Feb 21, 2018 14:07
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Hey, here's another "gently caress Windows update" story. Had a client meeting today. So three hours before I had to take off, I started my notebook to check if everything is in working order. Windows update had a couple of updates queued for installation, so I proceeded to install them - three hours is plenty, right? Update finished quickly. Hooray. 20 minutes before I had to leave, the Windows Update Assistant deemed it the perfect time to install the Fall Creators Update. Not in the weeks before, nooooo, it had to be loving now. "To ensure everything goes smoothly, do not shut down or close the computer". gently caress YOU. So I kept it open the whole drive, where it fairly quickly got to 72% progress, but then took 5 minutes for every other percent. Cool. Why would a progress indicator be linear, right? Arrived at the client's site, minimized the Update Assistant, now at 86%, to start my presentation. 10 minutes later, the "Hey, Windows will now reboot, nothing you can do about it, sucker! [Close]" dialog pops up. No way to delay it. And sure enough, it loving shuts down moments later. Well, do I look like an idiot now. Takes another excruciating 8 minutes to reboot and finish its poo poo. I hate smalltalk. I hate Windows. I hate my life. "Windows 10 - wanna babysit your loving computer at every turn? Boy do we have the right stuff for you."
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Feb 21, 2018 16:51
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Yeah the entire thing is a pile of poo poo. Queue the apologist crew
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Feb 21, 2018 17:07
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Windows is actively user hostile
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Feb 21, 2018 17:29
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It's been user hostile since at least win95, tell me something new 
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Feb 21, 2018 17:37
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Truga posted:It's been user hostile since at least win95, tell me something new Not to the point it will gently caress your work up just to install a update. In mcbexx's case, it installed AN ENTIRE NEW OS without asking.
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Feb 21, 2018 17:51
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Truga posted:Hit up ebay, pro licences for less than $5 are a thing now. Like I said it sounds a bit too good to be true?
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Feb 21, 2018 17:58
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Boris Galerkin posted:Like I said it sounds a bit too good to be true? Generally it technically is, these are usually OEM keys harvested from discarded machines and are officially not allowed to be uses on any other hardware. As far as home use goes no one gives a poo poo though. Microsoft is never going to crack down on personal-level users who bought legit keys, even if they're using them in a way that goes against the license. Just don't give the seller your card info direct, use something like Paypal, Amazon Pay, etc., and you have pretty much zero risk. Don't ever use questionable keys for a business though, if you find yourself at the wrong end of a BSA audit they'll smell blood the second they see random OEM keys on non-OEM or non-matching-OEM hardware.
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wolrah posted:Generally it technically is, these are usually OEM keys harvested from discarded machines and are officially not allowed to be uses on any other hardware. Oh yeah I'm not really worried about Microsoft kicking down my door and/or fining me or anything, but it would really suck if Microsoft flipped a switch and disabled all those license keys you know? What even happens when/if that happens? (I'm assuming Microsoft has the power to do this). And it's for a personal laptop that runs Linux. The Windows installation would exist entirely in a VM (host=Linux), I'm not sure if that complicates things...
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Boris Galerkin posted:Oh yeah I'm not really worried about Microsoft kicking down my door and/or fining me or anything, but it would really suck if Microsoft flipped a switch and disabled all those license keys you know? What even happens when/if that happens? (I'm assuming Microsoft has the power to do this). It would take them almost zero effort to prevent inappropriate OEM keys from activating on other makes of computers, but they haven't done even that. The business market is where they make their money, and their near monopoly status on consumer PCs is what allows them to maintain such a strong grip on the business market. There's not really any value to them in pissing off end users who believe they've purchased a legitimate key. quote:And it's for a personal laptop that runs Linux. The Windows installation would exist entirely in a VM (host=Linux), I'm not sure if that complicates things...
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Feb 21, 2018 19:43
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wolrah posted:It would take them almost zero effort to prevent inappropriate OEM keys from activating on other makes of computers, but they haven't done even that. They can't because the EU doesn't buy into their scam of OEM keys being tied to specific hardware.
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Boris Galerkin posted:Oh yeah I'm not really worried about Microsoft kicking down my door and/or fining me or anything, but it would really suck if Microsoft flipped a switch and disabled all those license keys you know? What even happens when/if that happens? (I'm assuming Microsoft has the power to do this).
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Feb 21, 2018 20:07
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redeyes posted:Yeah the entire thing is a pile of poo poo.
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mcbexx posted:Had a client meeting today. So three hours before I had to take off, I started my notebook to check if everything is in working order. Windows update had a couple of updates queued for installation, so I proceeded to install them - three hours is plenty, right? This is where I would have stopped and noped out of updating on the off chance the update fucks up anywhere. Three hours is nowhere near enough time for risking mission critical operation, just do it when you get home after. Boris Galerkin posted:Like I said it sounds a bit too good to be true? If you're in the EU, those $5 keys are salvage keys and completely legal (upheld by court ruling). If you're not in the EU, who the gently caress knows, though Microsoft isn't in the habit of chasing home users as others have mentioned.
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Truga posted:Use microsoft's iso loader to make an install usb, yeah. Cheers; is there a way to extract the key from the OEM install so I can use it on the fresh install? Fake edit: Google says "Windows 10 Installation Media will automatically find this key and input it during installation (installing the correct Edition of Windows 10)." So it will be all good? VVV Good on ya; thanks. ~Coxy fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Feb 22, 2018 |
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Yes. Sometimes it doesn't find it during installation and asks you for a key, but you can skip that and it will find it on booting into Windows. In the rare event that it doesn't do that either (I've had it fail probably half a dozen times across over a hundred machines) then you can pull the key after the fact using OemKey - http://neosmart.net/OemKey/
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mcbexx posted:Hey, here's another "gently caress Windows update" story. Since this is for work, you no doubt have a pro or enterprise licence. If it’s enterprise, your IT group should set update policy properly. If it’s pro, use group policy to set updates to alert when ready for download but not download it until confirmation. That way you can control when each update wave comes.
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Feb 22, 2018 02:04
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Delays updating for months, Windows is finally sick of it and forces it. gently caress this poo poo! I only had MONTHS to update it!
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Feb 22, 2018 02:59
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ratbert90 posted:Delays updating for months, Windows is finally sick of it and forces it. Yeah I just don't see how the guy never saw prompts to update to the FCU when it was released over 4 months ago.
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Nam Taf posted:Since this is for work, you no doubt have a pro or enterprise licence. If it’s enterprise, your IT group should set update policy properly. If it’s pro, use group policy to set updates to alert when ready for download but not download it until confirmation. That way you can control when each update wave comes. You can't do that with Pro, only Enterprise. Thus the issue.
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redeyes posted:You can't do that with Pro, only Enterprise. Thus the issue. Microsoft has an operating system for people who never want updates. It's called Windows 3.11
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fishmech posted:Microsoft has an operating system for people who never want updates. It's called Windows 3.11 Hey now, XP doesn’t get updates anymore either!
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ratbert90 posted:Hey now, XP doesn’t get updates anymore either! 2018-02 Security Update for Windows XP Embedded SP3 for x86-based Systems (KB4074603) Windows XP Embedded Security Updates 2/12/2018 n/a 1.4 MB 2018-02 Security Update for Windows XP Embedded SP3 for x86-based Systems (KB4074836) Windows XP Embedded Security Updates 2/12/2018 n/a 512 KB 2018-02 Security Update for Windows XP Embedded SP3 for x86-based Systems (KB4057893) Windows XP Embedded Security Updates 2/12/2018 n/a 569 KB 2018-02 Security Update for Windows XP Embedded SP3 for x86-based Systems (KB4074852) Windows XP Embedded Security Updates 2/12/2018 n/a 2.3 MB 2018-01 Security Update for Windows XP Embedded SP3 for x86-based Systems (KB4056615) Windows XP Embedded Security Updates 1/5/2018 n/a 2.4 MB 2018-01 Security Update for Windows XP Embedded SP3 for x86-based Systems (KB4056941) Windows XP Embedded Security Updates 1/5/2018 n/a 647 KB 
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Does anyone have a good app that can give you reminders for events for Windows 10, other than the Calendar?
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fishmech posted:2018-02 Security Update for Windows XP Embedded SP3 for x86-based Systems (KB4074603) Windows XP Embedded Security Updates 2/12/2018 n/a 1.4 MB Desktop then.
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redeyes posted:You can't do that with Pro, only Enterprise. Thus the issue.
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ratbert90 posted:Desktop then. "XP Embedded SP3" is just regular SP3 with an extra registry key or two, you'd have seen a lot of people a while ago referring to it as POSReady 2009 because that's the version of it that accepts normal XP Pro keys for install. It'll be updated til at least April 9, 2019
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