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Bust Rodd posted:Actually the smartest #metoo plotline would be someone going after Todd, because we know he DEFINITELY wouldn’t do that, and that actually provides some drama and tension. We’ve all seen the way Bojack and Mr. PB treat women, I could see Todd going on a date and like comically slipping on some spaghetti and accidentally grabbing Jessica Alba’s boob and apologizing and then all these other celebrities come out and misappropriate Todd’s buffoonery as sexism and then the lady-cab driver plotline rears back up... no because then you are sending out the message that the real life women claiming sexual assault are lying or misinterpreting stuff there is no good way to touch the issue with the current cast
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S5E1 is going to open with a massive orgy involving every single main, secondary and tertiary character and then we work it out during the next 11 episodes.
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Feb 22, 2018 02:10
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Samuringa posted:S5E1 is going to open with a massive orgy involving every single main, secondary and tertiary character and then we work it out during the next 11 episodes. if only
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Samuringa posted:S5E1 is going to open with a massive orgy involving every single main, secondary and tertiary character and then we work it out during the next 11 episodes. please do not post leaks of my fanfic
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Feb 22, 2018 03:32
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I'd be down for an arc where todd gets a girlfriend and realizes aces are a bunch of bullshit lies and nonsense.
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Feb 22, 2018 05:56
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Motherfucker posted:I'd be down for an arc where todd gets a girlfriend and realizes aces are a bunch of bullshit lies and nonsense. LoL, some people just don't dig sex for whatever reason deal with it.
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Feb 22, 2018 06:09
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Motherfucker posted:I'd be down for an arc where todd gets a girlfriend and realizes aces are a bunch of bullshit lies and nonsense. I'm in no way averse to asexual representation but I thought that was the most crudely preachy aspect of the show and I really think it was written clumsily.
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Feb 22, 2018 06:38
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Pick posted:I'm in no way averse to asexual representation but I thought that was the most crudely preachy aspect of the show and I really think it was written clumsily. The show seems to have a lot of trouble using Todd for anything other than hijinx and comedy relief. The character is just poorly suited to carrying actual story lines.
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Feb 22, 2018 06:54
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I don't think it's Todd, I think it just didn't work. It was way too Very Special Episode, without being a Very Special Episode format, where it would have worked maybe. I'd say the show handled Herb's homosexuality (contextualized in the 90s) much more successfully.
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Feb 22, 2018 07:00
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If you’re going to do a take on #metoo, you don’t go “what if bitches be crazy liars”, that’s stupid and harmful. Show people in the wake of these scandals rushing to take advantage of power vacuums in its wake if you’re going to be cynical about it. Like I can very easily see Princess Carolyn start celebrating when some big-name actor gets fired for sexual harassment because it means she can get a client that role.
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Feb 22, 2018 07:34
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T-man posted:LoL, some people just don't dig sex for whatever reason deal with it. Yeah but thats called 'mental illness'. asexual people have sexual preferences and desires but they're suppressed by depression, social anxiety, porn addiction, what have you. Just because some internet echo-chamber decided they didn't wanna be called incels anymore dosn't mean I have to believe in their mental gymnastics.
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Feb 22, 2018 07:42
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“Just because a community of people that doesn’t include me has the audacity to self-define in harmless ways that don’t affect me doesn’t mean I won’t volunteer my entitled, meaningless opinion about their lives.” You don’t really get to have an opinion about the legitimacy of stranger’s sex lives.
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Feb 22, 2018 08:05
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I literally don't care about the legitimacy of the topic, I just didn't like how it was written.
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Feb 22, 2018 08:08
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Xealot posted:“Just because a community of people that doesn’t include me has the audacity to self-define in harmless ways that don’t affect me doesn’t mean I won’t volunteer my entitled, meaningless opinion about their lives.” The lack thereof is a well known point of mockery on these very forums mister high road. Also whatever I guess we'll just keep letting vulnerable people get drawn into dangerous cults that allow them to legitimize their unhealthy behaviors in the name of false equivalency and inclusiveness. Just keg that poo poo up and let it fester for a generation and watch the fireworks. As long as nobodies feelings are hurt who cares how many lives are damaged.
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Feb 22, 2018 08:15
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Pick posted:I literally don't care about the legitimacy of the topic, I just didn't like how it was written. No, I get that. I thought the actual coming out scene was pretty well done, but definitely some of the meetup group stuff feels pretty expository.
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Feb 22, 2018 08:18
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I dunno I feel like it felt pretty fitting what with the dead eyed rote delivery of the lines as if even the actor couldn't believe what the gently caress he was being paid to read.
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I’m confounded by why you suggest asexuality as a queer identity is a false equivalency, when every point you’re making about it is verbatim a past criticism of queer identities. “They’re delusional idiots in dangerous cults, and actually have mental illnesses” is a stock argument that’s been thrown at gay and trans identities for decades. And every new revision to the DSM dismantles more of those claims. I’m not sure what Scientology-esque Cult of Asexuality you’re talking about, but it sounds like your preference is that people who aren’t interested in having sex force themselves to do so to be normal. Which...I hope I’m misunderstanding.
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Feb 22, 2018 09:03
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I don't know what you want from me, Motherfucker, I had sex a few times and each time just kind of lost interest partway through, then never felt compelled to pursue it again; some people just have a super low libido, I can't imagine what you find so threatening about that.
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Xealot posted:I’m confounded by why you suggest asexuality as a queer identity is a false equivalency, when every point you’re making about it is verbatim a past criticism of queer identities. “They’re delusional idiots in dangerous cults, and actually have mental illnesses” is a stock argument that’s been thrown at gay and trans identities for decades. And every new revision to the DSM dismantles more of those claims. Yeah, uh, it's really kind of amazing just how consistently similar the arguments and attacks aimed at asexuals are with those that have been aimed at gay and trans people for...ever. Almost as if there was some sort of running theme at work here. The extra-weird part is how vociferous some people are in dismissing and attacking asexual folks for...not engaging in something. It seems unlikely that they'd be driven by the phobic response, so...is it a fear of being judged or looked down upon? Some sort of reverse-puritanism? It's so bizarre.
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Motherfucker, fittingly, manages to disappoint in every post.
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"I tried to gently caress but found I couldn't keep my mind on the job, didn't cum and gave up halfway through... I guess I'm just not a sexual person" - a healthy person who definitely doesn't need therapy The threatening part I guess is when someone finally changes their anti-depressants and realizes they've been pretending for the last ten years that they've been this person they're actually not Its probably optimistic of me to think this awkwardly long wait for the next outraged reply means maybe I touched on something real. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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No medication, decent social life, plenty of confidence to meet new people. And I'll have you know I always finish what I start.  Because I'm not a giant arsehole, you see.Becoming more self confident didn't make me more sexually active, it just made me more confident to accept myself for who I am and not pursue things that I didn't care about doing. Why you find that so aggressively hateful is beyond me, but it's a bit loving rich for you to be saying that I'm the one who needs therapy.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:No medication, decent social life, plenty of confidence to meet new people. And I'll have you know I always finish what I start. I mean you seem super self confident judging by the way you say it outright despite that not actually being a point in my posts or even commented on. I mean maybe by 'aggressively hateful' you mean 'preemptively annoyed that some kid is inevitably going to hang their identity on this pack of utter bullshit and ruin their life' also 'no medication' isn't actually a great defense in the face of someone telling you that you might be in real danger of letting an un diagnosed mental illness hurt your longterm health. Motherfucker fucked around with this message at 12:01 on Feb 22, 2018 |
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Feb 22, 2018 11:58
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This is a weird hill to die on. It's 2018, motherfucker. Some people don't feel like having sex! That's fine! Whatever!
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In this case I thoroughly support it.
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I'll agree with you on the point of not hanging your identity on a term, for sure; IRL I don't come across any differently to anyone else, but if people start pressing me on relationships and hooking up I just brush it off by saying I'm not fussed about it rather than going 'umm, ACTUALLY ', because it just opens a can of worms for no good reason. Obviously on a dead gay Internet forum I don't care half as much. I'm not sure what medication you think is supposed to 'help' though; I don't have a problem with arousal, or socialising with potential partners, there's just no interest in combining those things, and it's not like I haven't tried. Apologies for talking about my junk so much. Doctor_Fruitbat fucked around with this message at 12:22 on Feb 22, 2018 |
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I'll agree with you on the point of not hanging your identity on a term, for sure; IRL I don't come across any differently to anyone else, but if people start pressing me on relationships and hooking up I just brush it off by saying I'm not fussed about it rather than going 'umm, ACTUALLY oh, friend. I could care less about whatever unhealthy coping mechanisms you as an adult wanna employ to deal with whatever trauma. But the issues arise when a community crops up touting those same copes as a 'queer identity' and trying to pass it off like its a legitimate sexual orientation because all the little Vincant Adultmans on the internet are going to see you and they're not going to know you're lying to yourself no matter how transparent you make it. They're credulous. some of them will be going through some poo poo and genuinely believe the party line and they won't realize till much much later when their brain is finally fully developed just how much damage they've done. And speaking of unhealthy people who lie to themselves habitually how about that horseman, amirite?? Motherfucker fucked around with this message at 12:39 on Feb 22, 2018 |
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Motherfucker posted:oh, friend. I could care less about whatever unhealthy coping mechanisms you as an adult wanna employ to deal with whatever trauma. But the issues arise when a community crops up touting those same copes as a 'queer identity' and trying to pass it off like its a legitimate sexual orientation because all the little Vincant Adultmans on the internet are going to see you and they're not going to know you're lying to yourself no matter how transparent you make it. They're credulous. some of them will be going through some poo poo and genuinely believe the party line and they won't realize till much much later when their brain is finally fully developed just how much damage they've done. You might be fighting this fight a little harder than you need to. People have all kinds of weird-rear end coping mechanisms for dealing with their crazy brains (I sure as hell do), and it's usually a good thing to live and let live.
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As someone who does improv, I'm highly offended at the shows portrayal of Todd's improv comedy shenanigans.
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prefect posted:You might be fighting this fight a little harder than you need to. People have all kinds of weird-rear end coping mechanisms for dealing with their crazy brains (I sure as hell do), and it's usually a good thing to live and let live. You're right, I should just get drunk and let the future slowly engulf me like the waves of a melting polar icecap.
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Motherfucker posted:You're right, I should just get drunk and let the future slowly engulf me like the waves of a melting polar icecap. That's the spirit
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Motherfucker posted:You're right, I should just get drunk and let the future slowly engulf me like the waves of a melting polar icecap. 
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Famous Study on Goat Sexuality finding a small amount of data regarding some goats, male, weren’t motivated by sex or finding sexual partners and only displayed excitement or anxiety around food. This study was passionately discredited by many European scientists who claim the data is completely borked because they were studying the mating habits of goats in captivity, not wild goats, whose sexual appetites did not seem to be affected at all, and in which zero males displayed Asexual tendencies over many generations. The theory that captivity dampens the sex drive in animals has been supported by dozens of studies at this point. Apparently the online Ace community took this study and used it to prop up ‘Cake’ memes, a symbol for Asexuality moving forward indicating “yeah, snacks are pretty much what we do because we don’t gently caress” The bigger study on Animal Asexuality with a lot more data is this one by Dr. Kristina Gupta which ties back to Sexual Agency theory by Kinsey and his team. Basically for a long time the scientific view of sex was that the dick was the active organ and the pussy was the passive organ. Feminist scientists as early as the 40’s were like “uh no, the pussy isn’t getting hosed, the pussy is actively loving your dick, that’s why it’s easier for us to get pregnant when we cum, you retards”. In general, due to the way pregnancy and hormones work with animals, females displaying asexual behavior in animals seems totally normal because in most species, the female won’t even know its mating season until all the males start doing something about it (birds are the biggest example, which is why ducks are so famous for rape, but the same is true of fish and many, many insects and a lot of mammals, like Dolphins or Pandas!) but male animals not being motivated by sex is statistically significantly abnormal enough that scientists want a scientific explanation for it, because scientists also believe that finding a scientific explanation for homosexuality/asexuality will help these ideas to become more accepted in the mainstream. Lastly, I couldn’t find anything about Axolotl’s specifically being asexual but I did find out they are Neotonous, which I guess means that they maintain many of their adolescent characteristics that most other amphibians shed as they move to adulthood. I don’t really get the significance of this but I thought it was neat. This post isn’t meant to prove a point one way or the other, I just wanted to share my 20 minutes of sleepy phone research about asexuality in animals, because I am fascinated by animal sexuality and the Museum of Sex in NYC has the most amazing exhibit on animal sex that is so mind-blowing and amazing and everyone should go (it’s an amazing date, lemme tell you!)
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Goat sex studies is probably a good sign the thread has gotten off topic.
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This penis has been inside this vagina? ...But in a sexual way?
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Lurdiak posted:Goat sex studies is probably a good sign the thread has gotten off topic. Until Diane’s brother comes to visit
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Lurdiak posted:Goat sex studies is probably a good sign the thread has gotten off topic. It weirded me out a little that the Latin Kings leader had those crazy sideways eyeballs.
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Bust Rodd posted:Until Diane’s brother comes to visit He's a sheep you loving racist. prefect posted:It weirded me out a little that the Latin Kings leader had those crazy sideways eyeballs. Goat eyes are so freaky I know of at least 3 horror comics made entirely based on them being freaky.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I don't know what you want from me, Motherfucker, I had sex a few times and each time just kind of lost interest partway through, then never felt compelled to pursue it again; some people just have a super low libido, I can't imagine what you find so threatening about that. It's literally the A in LGTBQIA. I don't give a poo poo what that rear end in a top hat says. You're in our tent. And even though I'm a sex-haver, I was stoked to see Todd be the first asexual representation I've ever seen in media because I recognize how loving powerful it is to see yourself in media after a lifetime of, well, not.
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