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That's true, but ZBooks are workstation laptops. There's an expectation of being higher-end than your average craptop. OTOH, HP.
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Statutory Ape posted:based on what he said it sounds like windows 10 wont even boot with the spinning disk though? I think it was hyperbole. I know, it's terrible to be sarcastic in a help thread, but like... nobody should use a platter drive anymore even if it's technically possible. I use two monitors for art and I'm looking for a third, but I'd rather go 768p than go without my SSDs.
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I guess the max pixels i can push is effectively 2x 4k screens. I have a 1440 and a 4k and ill be damned if i dont want to get one that i can mount vertically at x768 or whatever to keep chats on lol E: why do i do this to myself
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SwissArmyDruid posted:That's true, but ZBooks are workstation laptops. There's an expectation of being higher-end than your average craptop. I loved my Elitebook when I bought it, but HP has gone down a dark road. Dell Precision will continue to get my money until a better mobile workstation comes along.
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Statutory Ape posted:based on what he said it sounds like windows 10 wont even boot with the spinning disk though? Sure it'll boot but you're going to hate life as soon as an update starts. Windows 10 will boot on a system with one of those crap Atom-like Pentiums and 2GB of RAM too but it doesn't mean you get what I'd call a usable system.
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dissss posted:Sure it'll boot but you're going to hate life as soon as an update starts. It'll be slow, but that tablet I posted earlier comes with Windows 10 Home and is fully usable.
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CommieGIR posted:It'll be slow, but that tablet I posted earlier comes with Windows 10 Home and is fully usable. What happens when it decides to install one of those in-place version upgrades?
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Feb 21, 2018 19:44
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Don Lapre posted:touchscreen and pen support work great. I use a lenovo active pen 2 Thanks! Although now I've fallen down the rabbit hole of active pen convertibles. Is a refurbished Surface Book 1 with a 6th gen i5 going to last me a few years? ~$800 is tempting.
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:Those chinese macbook air clones keep getting better: I know I already replied to this, but thanks again for posting this. I'm back in the United States visiting family - a trip I make every couple years. Each time I come back, I usually try to spend about $100-$150 in a retail store on a cheap computer but Amazon has destroyed that. My work laptop is a Thinkpad x240, but my personal laptop is from 2014 and it's 2 GB of ram is always maxed out. The heaviest thing I need to run is PyCharm for coding; although a part of me wants to get one of these just to see if living in Bash is possible using lynx and alpine. It looks like a Cherry Trail or Apollo Lake from Jumper or Teclast notebook would take care of me. Unfortunately I don't have enough time to wait for international shipping. Question: Am I crazy or does it seem like all these Cherry Trail Macbook knock offs are made in the same factory and stamped with a different logo, example: $109 + 27 shipping (as of posting) T-bao-Tbook-X7, 14 inch 2 GB: https://www.geekbuying.com/item/T-bao-Tbook-X7-2GB---32GB-Silver-380770.html $129 Direkt-Tek DTLAPC14-1-SL 14 inch, 4 GB - 1920 x 1080 https://www.walmart.com/ip/14-Ultra...roduct_interest $109 Direkt-Tek DTLAPC125-1-PK 12.5 inch, 4 GB - 1366 x 768 https://www.walmart.com/ip/12-5-Ult...0-hour/56123842 Bonus: This RCA Cambio also looks interesting, but it only has 2 GB of RAM. Installing Linux might be difficult according to what I read online. https://www.walmart.com/ip/RCA-Cambio-10-1-2-in-1-32GB-Tablet-with-Windows-10-Intel-Atom-Z8350-2GB-RAM-Includes-Keyboard/56134994
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politicorific posted:I know I already replied to this, but thanks again for posting this. I'm back in the United States visiting family - a trip I make every couple years. Each time I come back, I usually try to spend about $100-$150 in a retail store on a cheap computer but Amazon has destroyed that. My work laptop is a Thinkpad x240, but my personal laptop is from 2014 and it's 2 GB of ram is always maxed out. The heaviest thing I need to run is PyCharm for coding; although a part of me wants to get one of these just to see if living in Bash is possible using lynx and alpine. It looks like a Cherry Trail or Apollo Lake from Jumper or Teclast notebook would take care of me. Unfortunately I don't have enough time to wait for international shipping. You're not crazy, that's pretty much it. These things exist because literally everything is made in shenzhen, everyone knows each other and china doesn't give a gently caress about intellectual property. That said, really really don't buy a cherry trail machine. Apollo lake is reasonably close to sort of being almost like a real CPU if you squint real hard. Cherry trail is like trying to run a desktop os on a midrange smartphone phone from 2015. Or rather, it's not like that, it's exactly that. Don't buy a $100 computer new, even directly from China. If you really must spend that little, you can likely scrounge up an old x220 or something if you dig for it. But the difference between a $100 laptop and a $300 laptop is a shitload bigger than the difference between a $600 laptop and a $2000 laptop.
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CommieGIR posted:I loved my Elitebook when I bought it, but HP has gone down a dark road. It was mentioned a little while ago, but whatever the 2020 or so equivalent of a refurb Precision 5520 is getting my money. They look perfect.
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I got a little $100 cherry trail box to run a znc server, irc bot, and probably some torrents on ubuntu So far its ok for that minimal purpose. I just wanted something that was absolutely silent and low power with like no footprint. I wonder if it could do a plex
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mobby_6kl posted:Maybe put a pair of glasses on your face? It's pretty loving terrible if you've ever owned anything with a decent screen. I have heard that the T470 got a downgraded screen compared to earlier ones. BlackMK4 fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Feb 22, 2018 |
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:You're not crazy, that's pretty much it. These things exist because literally everything is made in shenzhen, everyone knows each other and china doesn't give a gently caress about intellectual property. What about a $70 dollar computer? 
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So my existing laptop (Asus) is acting like its on its last legs. (Windows getting slower and slower.) Although I suspect that has to do more with windows bloatware more than anything else. I am looking to switch to Linux. (I thought about switching directly to Open BSD, but... too much effort. I don't have the time or space to install a new OS, get new all drivers, etc etc etc...) What laptop can I order online that I can pull out of the box and will work with Linux? Looking in the 400-800 dollar range. (The linux compatible drivers for hard ware is what I am worried about.) I don't really need it for gaming, but do need it for email, writing, online banking, etc... (Normal poo poo.) Senor P. fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Feb 22, 2018 |
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Install linux on your existing laptop Also test the hard drive, you probably just have a failing hard drive or an OS problem.
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Don Lapre posted:Install linux on your existing laptop (I thought laptops were special unique snowflakes compared to their Desktop counter parts.) I am working 50-60 hours a week. Spending a weekend or two to get Linux working is not good use of my time.
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i almost died, didnt leave the hospital for months, couldnt eat for half a year, had a tube in my neck so i could breath, couldnt walk and got bored and installed ubuntu in like 17 minutes within a week of getting home p sure you can do it working ~50 hours a week my man google "YOUR LAPTOP [SOME LINUX DISTRO]" and im sure somebody has laid out the path to success
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XPS 13 coupon code is back until the 23rd, 20% off. Back to free-lancing, so needed a laptop (deductible expense), kind of tired of using ThinkPads over the past 5-6 years, and my most recent corporate T460s was a piece of poo poo. Got a XPS 13 9360 w/ 16GB RAM, 1800p screen, Win 10 pro for $1200 shipped (10% WA tax). Didn't want touchscreen, but not a lot of 16GB SKUs available. Have a 512GB Samsung NVMe drive here that I'll be popping into it. Engineering, so I don't want to have carry around USB-C to USB-A dongles, and would rather have the native A ports. Craigslist a decent place to offload Thinkpad AC adapters? I probably have 8 at this point, complete with tip adapters so they can be used with both round and rectangular plugs. Wouldn't mind just straight up trading a few of them for Dell adapters so I can leave them lying around where I need 'em. e: oh I guess it goes without saying, that was on Dell Outlet refurb. Can save a bunch more if you stick with 8GB / non QHD screen but...I like leaving tabs open, and that QHD screen is pretty! movax fucked around with this message at 08:57 on Feb 22, 2018 |
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If you do shift to linux though, don't bother trying to dual boot with windows because there's a good chance some poo poo will go down and you'll lose everything
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Looking for a laptop with some very specific application-driven requirements:
* Can support 2 external 4K monitor at the same time as its primary display * Size/Weight as small as possible. Battery life not nearly as large of a concern Basically the primary purpose of this laptop is to operate a RDP session for an application that absolutely needs all that screen real-estate.
* When not being used for its primary purposes, it'd be nice to be able to game on it. In other words, absolutely willing to pay extra for a nice GPU. When doing some research for laptops that would meet these requirements, two things kept coming up that I was having a lot of trouble finding answers to myself. Anyone know... 1. How can you tell how many external displays a laptop actually supports? I know in the old days sometimes you couldn't use all video ports at the same time, and with everything moving to USB-C I'm even less sure how to tell. 2. I noticed in some reviews of 17" class laptops it would ding gaming desktop replacement for having a 1080 class GPU but not support GSync. Is GSync actually a thing on laptops now? Is it really necessary on gaming laptops like the MSI that have a 120Hz screen? Chuu fucked around with this message at 09:32 on Feb 22, 2018 |
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Senor P. posted:Won't I still need to download the drivers seperately? Which will require a seperate computer? Linux is a huge waste of time. Don't install it on your personal computers. If you don't have a tonne of free time to janitor your personal computer and deal with its many bugs, or if you don't find joy in doing random Google searches to deal with [random Linux bug/issue X] instead of your computer just working, then just buy a computer which comes with Mac or Windows. ChromeOS is another alternative. If everything you do can be done in a web browser, then it is great. If you have to rely upon any function outside of a web browser, though, expect it to either not be possible in ChromeOS or to be offered but loaded with bugs. silence_kit fucked around with this message at 13:08 on Feb 22, 2018 |
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Linux is better for servers. Find out the root of the problem for your slow down, or your Linux install may suffer from the same issues.
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silence_kit posted:Linux is a huge waste of time. Don't install it on your personal computers. If you don't have a tonne of free time to janitor your personal computer and deal with its many bugs, or if you don't find joy in doing random Google searches to deal with [random Linux bug/issue X] instead of your computer just working, then just buy a computer which comes with Mac or Windows. I went on Slashdot for the first time in about 15 years the other day, and there were a handful of neckbeards still there, claiming unironically in the comments section of every article that this year would definitely be the year of Linux on the desktop.
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webmeister posted:I went on Slashdot for the first time in about 15 years the other day, and there were a handful of neckbeards still there, claiming unironically in the comments section of every article that this year would definitely be the year of Linux on the desktop. Yeah. There's an Ubuntu distribution in Windows 10.
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I have Ubuntu 16.04 running on a Dell 7000 series and it works pretty good. The touchpad leaves a little to be desired but I think that's more to do with the hardware. Sleep works, the battery lasts 6 hours, wifi works, keys for brightness/keyboard backlight work... I think I could use it as my main machine if I didn't have a Mac 
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Yeah. There's an Ubuntu distribution in Windows 10. Yup, and it's pretty awesome. Eliminated my need to have Cygwin and a VM of Scientific Linux on the standby.
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You can use a Linux distro in a VM and it will almost be indistinguishable from running it right on the hardware. It will take an hour to install.
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webmeister posted:I went on Slashdot for the first time in about 15 years the other day, and there were a handful of neckbeards still there, claiming unironically in the comments section of every article that this year would definitely be the year of Linux on the desktop. My friend and I have a running joke that "(current year) is the year of Linux on the 10 year old laptop". I have a sweet T420, it runs Linux beautifully... But gently caress putting it on my XPS13, allegedly the "best Linux laptop". Even with the lowest res screen option it's 1080p on a 13 inch screen and scaling in Linux is half-assed so random things are unreadable. I've been looking for a Linux notebook that isn't such a brick to haul around but I'm not sure if I should be looking at older Carbon X1s (can't replace the battery though?) Or the x240 (drat small screen, my 13 inch already drives me nuts) or just say gently caress it and keep hauling my poo poo brick around.
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This is on sale on woot today for $350: Lenovo Thinkpad S1 Yoga Multi-Mode Business Ultrabook, 12.5" Full-HD Touchscreen, Intel Core i5-4300U, 256GB Solid State Drive, 8GB DDR3, 802.11n, Bluetooth, Win10Pro https://www.woot.com/offers/lenovo-yoga-12-5-fhd-i5-touch-ultrabook?ref=w_cnt_gw_dly_cr#read-more I can't see any reason not to get it as a side-project dev machine. What's not good about this laptop? e: other than tablet mode looks real dumb and i wouldn't use it Careful Drums fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Feb 22, 2018 |
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Careful Drums posted:I can't see any reason not to get it as a side-project dev machine. What's not good about this laptop? the trackpad is made of rear end and balls, and lacks physical buttons for the pointing nipple. other than that, that's a pretty good deal!
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anothergod posted:I wonder how much Lenovo realizes I buy their products for the hot nub action? Dell and HP have nubs too.
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My new HP Spectre x360 13.3" arrived today. It's really fantastic, though I hosed it up (my fault) trying to adjust the touchpad drivers and had to spend the better part of an hour fixing it. It's really a great machine, and I'd recommend it to anyone who wants a 2-in-1. Super light, thin, good battery, and the keyboard is quite pleasant.
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Apollodorus posted:My new HP Spectre x360 13.3" arrived today. It's really fantastic, though I hosed it up (my fault) trying to adjust the touchpad drivers and had to spend the better part of an hour fixing it. I've had my eye on the non-2-in-1 cousin, the Envy 13 with the MX150. But from the few reports I can find online, it seems it throttles pretty heavily 
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Careful Drums posted:This is on sale on woot today for $350: Comments say this a 2013, possibly used machine and reconditioned to new, whatever that means.
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:Comments say this a 2013, possibly used machine and reconditioned to new, whatever that means. well yeah you're not gonna find a brand new 2-in-1 with an active digitizer, an i5, a 256gb ssd and 8gb of ram for tree fiddy. it's still a good deal, it's far better than anything you can buy new for that price, including chinese imports. edit: in fact that's a better deal on that machine than anything on ebay right now, if you need a beater ultrabook you should jump on it. i wouldn't put much stock in the "warranty" though. Dr. Fishopolis fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Feb 23, 2018 |
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Shrimp or Shrimps posted:I've had my eye on the non-2-in-1 cousin, the Envy 13 with the MX150. But from the few reports I can find online, it seems it throttles pretty heavily I bet it does. I went back and forth for like 2 months on whether I wanted to get something with a dGPU or not, and eventually decided that this Spectre looked like the best combination of thin+light, 2-in-1, and powerful hardware for productivity and media. There will be a new desktop in my near future (using the SSD off my old laptop) for gaming and any audio/video editing, but this Spectre is already putting my old Asus to shame in the "actual work I need to do for my job" department.
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