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That's not the only major change. The individual storage and materials traders are pretty huge deals. Now you don't have to throw poo poo away due to limited space, so you'll have an easier time accumulating materials through normal play and trading up (or down) for what you need. Also in the old system every reroll you did would use rare materials, in the new system only the last few rolls will. It's miles better.
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Also being able to buy secondary/experimental effects separately from upgrade rolls and without the dumb favor system that required you to re-rank up. Having to upgrade each module from G1 might seem lovely at face value, but in reality the system is going to be leagues easier to deal with now.
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Knifegrab posted:So is this new patch supposed to be cool and good or is it more grognard bullshit? It’s going to be good but you’ll find something to hate about it, have a hilarious freak out and get probated (again).
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Feb 21, 2018 22:20
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:It’s going to be good but you’ll find something to hate about it, have a hilarious freak out and get probated (again). 
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Feb 21, 2018 22:26
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tooterfish posted:That's not the only major change. The individual storage and materials traders are pretty huge deals. Agreed. New system is better, and peak G5 in 3.0 is better than a god-roll in the old system. Only thing I don't like about it is the 6 to 1 conversion rate for the same rarity of material. It should be more like 3 to 1. In the long run, the only thing I don't see myself upgrading to the new system is shield boosters (because I have so many of them)
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Feb 21, 2018 22:43
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Is the upcoming patch the one that updates planetary surfaces? Because I'm way more interested in that than the engineering changes, I gotta say
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So the long and short, for everyone, it's going to be a bit more grindy to get an individual module up to Level 5, but you're allowed to pin one blueprint per engineer and you can use it remotely at any station with outfitting, not to mention you can now trade materials for other ones, which saves a lot of hassel. So in terms of the grind, a lot of it is taken out per se but replaced with others.
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Feb 21, 2018 23:26
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Bohemian Nights posted:Is the upcoming patch the one that updates planetary surfaces? Because I'm way more interested in that than the engineering changes, I gotta say Yes, the visual update was in the beta.
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iospace posted:So the long and short, for everyone, it's going to be a bit more grindy to get an individual module up to Level 5 You'll have to click a few more times in the engineer window, but as far as materials are concerned you'll spend less time looking for the ones you need.
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I don't think I have the mats for level 4 FSD range engineering. Though that's moot at this point given that I'll start at max level 4 anyway on the DBX.
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Can't poo poo up the EFT thread anymore so ya came back to the E:D thread...how suprising. The answer to your question could have been easily answered if you took the time and read the thread and decide for yourself, everyone has been talking about the new features here since the beta...
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Feb 22, 2018 00:44
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This thread still better than the Destiny 2 thread
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Feb 22, 2018 00:49
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NJersey posted:Can't poo poo up the EFT thread anymore so ya came back to the E:D thread...how suprising. Oh god no, I asked a question!  Do you scream at your computer when you see a repost on reddit? You fragile thing you.VVV
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Feb 22, 2018 01:04
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Here it comes. 
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Feb 22, 2018 01:07
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I think the changes sounds cool and good. Have a blessed day everyone.
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Feb 22, 2018 01:08
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still less drama than star citizen (and more game)
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Feb 22, 2018 01:08
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i think elite is pretty fun, but star citizen is A LOT more fun to read/post about
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Feb 22, 2018 01:10
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Please stop fighting you guys, I mostly play in Mobius PVE so I'm not used to conflict! 
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To derail, can someone explain board flipping to a new player? Do I just go to a station and then go back and forth between open play and solo play to accept a pile of missions? Do the missions I accept in solo play still carry over to open, or do I need to only accept in open?
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Missions carry over between modes and yep you've got the basic idea already. The reason for it is because the game naturally resets missions every ~10 minutes while board flipping forces it to refresh (usually). Also suggested to join something like MobiusPvE for a third option to flip through and for a good place to go during CG events and such where you still have people about but not every single loving landing pad full constantly.
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New E:D player here. How 'MMO' is E:D in open play compared to say Eve? If I take a mission at spaceport X does that mission disappear from another player's screen or do we each have our own list? If I sell a poo poo ton of unobtanium does that affect the price that someone else gets for unobtanium?
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Each person has their own randomly generated mission list. Trading does effect the supply / demand of commodities. Normally a single commander’s effect is a very small drop in a big bucket, but big Community Goals can drain the supplies in systems within a hundred light years.
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It is completely not MMO at all. The only effect another single player can really have on you is shooting you, and given that there is a small limit to the number of people in an "instance" (an out of warp-speed area, or a system's warp-speed area) and the galaxy is really huge ya'll. There is little chance another player will ever have a direct effect on the game. The missions are your missions alone. The market is only minorly affected (a few %) by even the largest possible trades by a single person. The only influence players really have on the game is through whatever magic the Diamond Frogs logistics teams conjure. Through directed efforts of mission running, datadumps, NPC killing, and apathy, they can slowly change their influence and expand to new systems or retreat from crap ones. All of this math is beyond me so I just dump my crap where they say to and revel in the glory.
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Thanks! Is there a good intro to E:D post somewhere? Looking for a general overview of what is in the game and an idea of how those things interact as a jumping off point to Google for X.
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CapnBry posted:It is completely not MMO at all. The only effect another single player can really have on you is shooting you, and given that there is a small limit to the number of people in an "instance" (an out of warp-speed area, or a system's warp-speed area) and the galaxy is really huge ya'll. There is little chance another player will ever have a direct effect on the game. The missions are your missions alone. The market is only minorly affected (a few %) by even the largest possible trades by a single person. The Frogs have been running experiments and dissecting the background sim since release. I think it's safe to say we're better at it than any other player group. I could be wrong but I doubt it. Our turbonerds know exactly what to do and they've organized things really nicely with the Discord and all, the results speak for themselves.
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12 hours left and not even close to Tier 7 on Bulwark Project. Hope it wasn't important an important CG.
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The bounty one sucked this time.
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Tonight I learned that being interdicted by a Cobra MK3 or 4 means I should comply in a sidewinder and that if I die, the blackbox mission doesn't say failed but it is since the mark does not respawn.
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Yeah the engineering grind is lame. Humans die too fast for this poo poo to be important
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Knifegrab posted:Oh god no, I asked a question! Oh come on, you posted this after the Beyond patch notes were released then you disappeared from the thread for a while: Knifegrab posted:I read the patch notes related to the new crime and punishment systems but I still really don't get what is different, how it works, or why its significant. Coincidentally, you were posting in the EFT thread a bunch during that time then return to this thread after getting kicked out of the EFT thread for being a poo poo poster there too. You even reply with the same lame sarcastic attempts at rolling with the punches when people here call you out on your bullshit we see coming from a mile away. These are pretty much the only two Games threads I read so seeing you bounce from one to the other and back again with your poo poo posting and people telling you to gently caress off is pretty funny and telling about you as a poster...
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Why does eve fitting tool have a thread?
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How do you get kicked out of an electronic funds transfer thread
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Cowcaster posted:what the heck is mobiuspve I have the mental image of a gameplay loop that looks like an ouroboros. 
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Cowcaster posted:what the heck is mobiuspve It’s a PVE “server”
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Mimesweeper posted:The Frogs have been running experiments and dissecting the background sim since release. I think it's safe to say we're better at it than any other player group. I could be wrong but I doubt it. Our turbonerds know exactly what to do and they've organized things really nicely with the Discord and all, the results speak for themselves. The Diamond Frogs still are my friends if I dumped 100M spacebux in exploration data this week, or didn't. I'm still that weird guy who keeps dropping hundreds of tons of Imperial Slaves on Trappist-1 1a trying to start a colony and never quite getting it to take off.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:It’s a PVE “server” what do the quotes around server entail
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Cowcaster posted:what do the quotes around server entail It's a private group that you join like any other so it isn't an actual server in a traditional MMO sense.
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so it's kind of just like a clan you join and then they manipulate it so you all spawn in the same instance or something?
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Private groups are groups you join, and can select in place of open or solo play. Matchmaking will only throw you into instances with players in that group. Kinda like a clan, but the group name is the name of the player that started it, and I think only they can invite people to it? It's kinda clunky, but it works in a pinch I guess.
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