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Croatoan posted:I know I'm gonna be an aspect ratio snob but is it really worth it for me to watch the Wire as well? Does it convert into widescreen at any point? I watched it on DVD on an HDTV and it was awesome, quality be damned.
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Simon said he thinks 4:3 is better for The Wire because it approximates the local news from that era
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Feb 22, 2018 16:19
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Also because it's how the show was blocked and shot, but if you prioritize filling every inch of your screen over actual cinematography it's good that you have that option I guess.
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Feb 22, 2018 16:35
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But isn't The Wire in 16:9 largely free of like boom mics and crew members and poo poo like that in the shots that a lot of things assumed to be viewed in 4:3 are plagued with? If I'm not mistaken then I have to wonder if the Vision(tm) was fully 4:3. That being said I can appreciate it as an artistic choice, but it's one I'd probably ignore were I ever to rewatch the show.
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IRQ posted:But isn't The Wire in 16:9 largely free of like boom mics and crew members and poo poo like that in the shots that a lot of things assumed to be viewed in 4:3 are plagued with? It's not out of the question in the anticipation for a widescreen laserdisc set, Babylon 5 was shot in 16:9, but blocked and composed for 4:3 which was the standard at the time. DTV standards were around since the early 90's.
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Feb 22, 2018 16:48
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There are differing stories as to the Wire in 16:9. Supposedly the DPs shot in 16:9 frames that would be croppable to 4:3 and it wasn’t until season 3 when they started consciously framing and shooting 4:3. Simon preferred 4:3, but was ok with the 16:9 remasters
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I watched it 16:9 and I sure didn't notice any cinematography issues, distracting negative space or anything like that. It's pretty obvious in some scenes that people are standing ridiculously close to each other so they can both be in the frame in 4:3, but that's about it. Any argument that it's "meant" to be watched in 4:3 is pretty spurious.
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IRQ posted:But isn't The Wire in 16:9 largely free of like boom mics and crew members and poo poo like that in the shots that a lot of things assumed to be viewed in 4:3 are plagued with? I mean, yeah that could be the case, but the show was shot and arranged for 4:3. Blowing that out means that you're going to be increasing the amount of negative space in the image. i.e. everything that's important is going to be happening in the centre of the screen, and the margins are going to be full of empty space. The most obvious effect is that cramped shots are going to look less cramped, but it can also make shots look oddly blocked, or can dilute visual impact.  e.g. this shot from The Sopranos, which like The Wire was shot for 4:3 but protected for 16:9 -- so no boom mikes, but the shot loses something in translation. The broadcast image would have had Tony boxed in by the frame rather than floating in the centre of the image. Melfi's legs would have been even more prominent; hell, it'd be basically all we'd see of her. The wider shot also means that the sharp planar quality to the scene, the line drawn from Melfi through the tissues and to Tony, is blunted by the bookcase on the left. Ultimately you still get a similar effect, but the force of the original image is diluted. Open Source Idiom fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Feb 22, 2018 |
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Feb 22, 2018 17:02
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The Sopranos and The Wire in 4:3 look like rear end because they are in SD.
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A lot of people here who definitely haven’t actually bothered to watch The Wire in 16:9 claiming it’s worse
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Feb 22, 2018 17:21
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Oh god CineD has infected TVIV, get out while you still can folks!
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Feb 22, 2018 18:39
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We've got to amputate this thread it's the only way to save the rest of the body.
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Feb 22, 2018 19:22
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Regy Rusty posted:We've got to amputate this thread it's the only way to save the rest of the body. Have you seen the BoJack thread recently? It's too late
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Mu Zeta posted:The Sopranos and The Wire in 4:3 look like rear end because they are in SD. I recall he wasn’t a big fan of HD either. He probably should’ve shot the show on video and released it on VHS based around the aesthetics he was looking for.
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Regy Rusty posted:We've got to amputate this thread it's the only way to save the rest of the body. Be careful, if one of them quotes you the virus spreads 
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Rarity posted:Be careful, if one of them quotes you the virus spreads It's too late
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Feb 22, 2018 19:50
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Rarity posted:Be careful, if one of them quotes you the virus spreads THE BYE BYE MAN don't think it don't say it don't think it don't say it
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Feb 22, 2018 20:21
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DivisionPost posted:Have you seen the BoJack thread recently? It's too late Holy poo poo what the gently caress is going on in there
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Feb 22, 2018 20:23
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Escobarbarian posted:Holy poo poo what the gently caress is going on in there Look it's not enough to trust that the writers will figure out the best way to incorporate or not incorporate the #MeToo movement, we have to endlessly speculate about it. Also asexuals don't exist, they have psychological issues. (Thanks for banning that dude FAU.)
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DivisionPost posted:Look it's not enough to trust that the writers will figure out the best way to incorporate or not incorporate the #MeToo movement, we have to endlessly speculate about it. Wait... do they exist or don't they? Which team do i need to defend, I missed the meeting.
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Rocksicles posted:Wait... do they exist or don't they? Which team do i need to defend, I missed the meeting. They exist but they're all axolotls..
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IRQ posted:They exist but they're all axolotls.. Those poor things have lots of issues.
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DivisionPost posted:Have you seen the BoJack thread recently? It's too late I was caught up on it yesterday and then today saw it had almost 100 new posts so I don't even wanna touch it E: I looked and saw some of the actual worst posts I've ever seen on these forums (thankfully all from one, now banned person) Regy Rusty fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Feb 22, 2018 |
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Feb 22, 2018 22:16
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I knew an asexual guy in college, he was pretty cool.
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What the gently caress is this bullshit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8B5dqjsZUs
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Regy Rusty posted:I was caught up on it yesterday and then today saw it had almost 100 new posts so I don't even wanna touch it Well, on the bright side, it's not truly a good show until goons are terrible about it. Speaking of which, goons should be a lot more terrible about Everything Sucks! and A.P. Bio. I've already waxed poetic on the former, but I just caught the first two episodes of the latter and it's pretty goddamn good. If you don't know, beyond just starring Glenn Howerton and Patton Oswalt, the show was created by SNL vet Mike O'Brien. Mike O’Brien is somehow simultaneously a beautiful man and a loving lunatic. The SNL skits he's probably best remembered for are Sad Mouse and Puppet Class. A.P. Bio doesn't quite get up there but it's definitely revving up.
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zoux posted:What the gently caress is this bullshit What if Powers Rangers but too much internet
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Ah people are clamoring to bring back a beloved series that was cut short, they loved the characters and the setting and the light atmosphere but get this: What if we didn't do any of that and instead made a dumbass Power Rangers show that sucked?
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A.P. Bio is weird in that NBC marketing has it starting March 1st even though the first two episodes aired and the first three have been on Hulu.
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AP Bio is fantastic.
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Chevy Chase gotta Chevy Chasequote:Chevy Chase was living out a scenario right out of a National Lampoon flick.
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zoux posted:What the gently caress is this bullshit I feel they missed an obvious Reboot-style joke by not having Homeroom be in room 10.0.0.1
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quote:The driver claimed Chase threw a punch first and that the kicker was trying to block his fist with a foot, TMZ reports. I've been sitting her for like 3 minutes trying to figure that out.
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STAC Goat posted:I've been sitting her for like 3 minutes trying to figure that out. The driver is full of poo poo and the passenger kicked Chevy.
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lelandjs posted:The driver is full of poo poo and the passenger kicked Chevy. Yeah, obviously. I'm just trying to picture the thing he was trying to paint.
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Really late on this, but finally decided to bite the bullet and start watching MST3K: The Return. and....it's good. It's good because it mostly doesn't reinvent the wheel. It's different, but primarily in the way the Mike era was different from the Joel era. Well, and having a bit bigger of a budget, clearly, but they've clearly taken pains to give everything the same lo-fi aesthetic. The first episode was weak, but more because Reptilicus is terminally boring, and Jonah and the bots just couldn't figure out a way to make it fun. Whereas the other two episodes I saw, Cry WILDERNESS! and The Time Travelers, gave them ample opportunity for some truly beautiful riffing. Some of the modern references are jarring at first, but then they'll hit on something perfect, and it feels fine again (like an exquisitely timed Bitcoin joke).
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I found out that Amazon had rifftrax and that was it for MST3K 2 for me. Bill/Mike/Kevin is my favorite lineup anyway and no lame sketches? Way better. I like Jonah alright and the dude that does Crow is fine, but the Tom guy is just not good. Incidentally 3k or Rifftrax are ideal for before sleep viewing. You can quit watching any time and you don't really have to pay close attention when you’re tired and stoned
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There are probably triple digit numbers of mst3k/rifftrax episodes I've literally never seen the last 30 minutes of for that very reason
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Yeah, if I’m not falling asleep to MST3K (4 times out of 5), I’m falling asleep to Retsuprae, Rifftrax, or TieTuesday videos.
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Spatula City posted:Really late on this, but finally decided to bite the bullet and start watching MST3K: The Return. Obligatory musical link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6-4ssFHryM
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