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Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Sagebrush posted:

the FAA quite reasonably requires that you do all of that stuff the old fashioned way (at least for your education and check ride) because they want you to be able to get back to your airport even if apple pushes an update that breaks your chart app

here is a story of a pilot who died because he bought a new gps that he didn't know how to use, then put the destination airport's runway length into the airport code box, and blindly trusted its directions even though it told him to fly due north to get from new mexico to texas

https://fearoflanding.com/accidents/accident-reports/hes-a-terror-in-a-twin/

read the whole story for other cool things he did like lie about his certifications and land on a highway to show off

quote:

N1099Q: Well we’re comin… we’re coming from 270 right now.
Flagstaff Tower: From 270 you should be west of the…airport. Where was the destination you left from?
N1099Q: Well, we can report… let’s see, the winds are from uh what…
Flagstaff Tower: Comanche 99Q the wind is 240 at 6. Just report base.
N1099Q: Well…we’re…right now…
Flagstaff Tower: Comanche 99Q, that came in broken and unreliable.
N1099Q: The winds are 210.
Flagstaff Tower: Wind 210 at 8.
Flagstaff Tower: Comanche 99Q, how far from the airport are you?
N1099Q: We’re downwind 21 left. We’re setting up for base for 21 left.

Left base means a left-hand circuit. 21 left means the left-hand runway where there are two parallel runways, which Flagstaff does not have.

jesus all i know about flying comes from watching rando youtube pilot training videos and wikipedia and even i was pulling my hair out at this guy while reading this :psyduck:

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The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS

Gary’s Answer
Of course you all have pilots licenses, lmao

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

well, I don't yet, just working on one.

it's a pretty slow process unless you can fly several times a week and afford thousands of dollars in a chunk

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

quote:

The Cessna positioned itself and then started the take-off roll as the pilot made the first call to Air Traffic Control.

The controller at Flagstaff Tower, not surprisingly, was unimpressed. He instructed the Cessna to abort the take off and exit the runway immediately.

(I like to imagine him saying “and don’t come back” at this point but of course he was much too polite to do so)

After the Cessna had vacated the runway and stopped (blocking a ramp entrance in the process), the pilot had a “lengthy conversation” with the controller, in which he explained that he wasn’t aware that there was a problem because his radio had not been turned on.

:stonk: this seems like the point where you should really be immediately arrested or something

e:

quote:

The FLG ATC tower controller stated that, during his telephone conversation with the accident pilot following the runway incursion, the pilot “kind of missed the point,” “came up with excuses” for the runway incursion, and did not know there was another airplane “out there” during the runway incursion.

aaaaaaa you're at a loving airport of course there's another airplane out there!!!!

Shame Boy fucked around with this message at 06:14 on Feb 23, 2018

freezepops
Aug 21, 2007
witty title not included
Fun Shoe

Sagebrush posted:

was thinking of how both hot-and-high conditions and loaded weight change your takeoff and climb performance, so if it's real hot and there are obstacles at the end of the runway you'd better not load up too much

Its a rare situation that a take off is the right choice when below gross weight, especially in GA. Generally if you cant take off at gross weight you sure as poo poo shouldn't be trying at 10% less weight or w/e you think you can gain by taking on less fuel.

quote:

gonna burn more fuel if you're flying into a headwind the whole trip and your ground speed is 30 knots lower than usual
Oh yeah, I generally think in gph which doesnt change much by weather.

cis autodrag posted:

Of course you all have pilots licenses, lmao

you should buy one its fun and also the TSA sucks some serious garbo poo poo. Its a good 50% of the reason I decided to buy an old Beechcraft and get a PPE. That and traveling with a dog is a real PITA and its generally cheaper with private over buying a family's worth of tickets on AA or w/e.

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS

Gary’s Answer

freezepops posted:

you should buy one its fun and also the TSA sucks some serious garbo poo poo. Its a good 50% of the reason I decided to buy an old Beechcraft and get a PPE. That and traveling with a dog is a real PITA and its generally cheaper with private over buying a family's worth of tickets on AA or w/e.

Just gonna memorialize this post

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



cis autodrag posted:

Of course you all have pilots licenses, lmao

they're easier to get than you might think. full disclosure: i have not. i looked into it years ago for a job but decided that even though i take care of myself, having type 1 diabetes is just too much of a risk.

Bhodi
Dec 9, 2007

Oh, it's just a cat.
Pillbug
i'd get one but ehhhh effort. you can timeshare a plane for around a car payment, it's flight time that's $$$

kinda have always wanted to hang glide though, or maybe ultralights, the classic bougie killer

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

id rather have a dirt bike

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

crabrock posted:

i don't remember what any of this means other than the big blue circles are big airports that you can't fly through unless you ask for permission or whatever.

https://skyvector.com/?ll=37.61488410732532,-122.04327392222037&chart=301&zoom=3

I’m the big red no fly zone over Disneyland

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

id rather pay a professional to fly for me while i watch a movie or sleep in economy class.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong
I never had a pilots license I just flew in my mom's cousin's plane with him or his wife

Ofc he ended up crashing its and dying one night flying alone so I never really got the opportunity after that

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

FCKGW posted:

I’m the big red no fly zone over Disneyland

that's a TFR, temporary flight restriction.

normally those are used for, well, temporary things, like airshows, sports games, forest fires, airports where the president is, etc. but fun fact: that one (and its mate over disney world in florida) has been in effect since ~2003. no one in the military or the FAA decided that there should be a restriction over disney parks, and indeed there are no TFRs over any other amusement parks. this one came about because disney really hated that planes were able to fly over disneyland towing
advertising banners, so a disney lobbyist managed to slip those TFRs into a wide-ranging counterterrorism bill just after the iraq war started and they've stuck ever since.

it makes the already extremely congested airspace over los angeles even more complicated for a small plane to navigate for no good reason, but congress certainly knows who butters their bread

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

freezepops posted:

80% of my practical was stick and rudder skill

stick and rudder? i barely knew her!

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

crabrock posted:

we had to learn everything with the loving awesome manual tools that were invented because my flight instructor said that digital sucks and fails all the time and if you rely on that you'll definitely die. he scoffed at people who take ipads up into their plan to chart their course and stuff. we did it all on big maps and it was cool as heck.

on the one hand, it’s cool that the instructor was teaching the old way how to do things. probably a great way to learn fundamentals.

on the other hand, being a luddite is dumb.

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

cis autodrag posted:

Just gonna memorialize this post

old and busted: limosine liberals
new hotness: cessna socialists

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)
boeing bolsheviks

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

thanks, this blog just ate up like 3 hours of my evening
so good

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



airbus accelerationists

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

Agile Vector posted:

airbus accelerationists

a hosed up, faulty sense of forward progress. makes sense.

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

dangling pointer posted:

he doesn’t need a therapist, he needs a mentor that will smoke fat blunts with him until he is high out of his mind and turns into a social butterfly

snoop offered

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Jabor posted:

you don't need to be a billionaire to do this

but yeah having that much money removes some of the bigger objections

like you could buy enough MiG to fly one and also afford to fuel it

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

hail cgatan


President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)
a flat spin.

:ohdear:

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



fake pixels!!! :mad:

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

Krankenstyle posted:

fake pixels!!! :mad:

https://i.imgur.com/oNoPoAr.gifv

Bulgakov
Mar 8, 2009


рукописи не горят

one plane flyer coming outta the wood work would be cause to fumigate

but with this many, things must be burnt down

muckswirler
Oct 22, 2008

Cool uncirc'd F100

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

Bulgakov posted:

one plane flyer coming outta the wood work would be cause to fumigate

but with this many, things must be burnt down

auto gyro peasant spotted.

heated game moment
Oct 30, 2003

Lipstick Apathy
I dont even own a plane

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

MononcQc posted:

uh I'd like to get sources on saguenay because I live there and have never heard of any poo poo like that. In fact Saguenay's been in the top 10 safest cities in Canada a bunch of times in the last 10 years. The Hells used to own most of the main street in Jonquiere but have mostly been kicked out and their last bunker has been destroyed around 2005. They still have members around (mostly directed from Trois-Rivières) but usually what everyone hears is just about drugs and whatnot.

"census metropolitan area" naturally excludes whatever rural backwater actually has the highest rate; also that's per capita

https://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-002-x/2014001/article/14008-eng.htm



no surprise that four of the top five locations are places where bikers have a good toehold

heated game moment
Oct 30, 2003

Lipstick Apathy

flakeloaf posted:

"census metropolitan area" naturally excludes whatever rural backwater actually has the highest rate; also that's per capita

https://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-002-x/2014001/article/14008-eng.htm



no surprise that four of the top five locations are places where bikers have a good toehold

Shaggar was right

MononcQc
May 29, 2007

flakeloaf posted:

"census metropolitan area" naturally excludes whatever rural backwater actually has the highest rate; also that's per capita

https://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-002-x/2014001/article/14008-eng.htm



no surprise that four of the top five locations are places where bikers have a good toehold

Oh alright. Looking back at the 'safest cities' lists those are mostly about violent offenses/murder rates so the stats don't contradict. I also thought the discussion had to do with human trafficking, but those are sexual offenses as a whole (far less than 5% have to do with sexual exploitation)

I think it might be disingenuous to blame sexual offenses overall on the Hells having a toehold to be honest. I wouldn't be surprised if part of it had to do with sexism and irresponsible drinking culture for example, or just plain old lovely rural areas living up to their stereotypes.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

yeah that was a conclusion from a conclusion; obviously they are one of the names that comes up again and again when the topic turns to sex trafficking but that's a pretty small percentage of the "usual child sex crimes" which isn't a sentence anyone should need to type

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

MononcQc posted:

Oh alright. Looking back at the 'safest cities' lists those are mostly about violent offenses/murder rates so the stats don't contradict. I also thought the discussion had to do with human trafficking, but those are sexual offenses as a whole (far less than 5% have to do with sexual exploitation)

I think it might be disingenuous to blame sexual offenses overall on the Hells having a toehold to be honest. I wouldn't be surprised if part of it had to do with sexism and irresponsible drinking culture for example, or just plain old lovely rural areas living up to their stereotypes.

the joke around quebec is that in saguenay, cousins and sisters are ok because there's not much choice otherwise, so... yeah...

or wait was that lac st-jean? whichever's the place where there's like two last names (Tremblay and Tremblay) and there's a genetic disorder that only occurs in that specific area

MononcQc
May 29, 2007

Yeah, I mean looking at sex crimes against minors, I wouldn't be surprised if the priests actually did more harm than the Hells there. One priest in particular has been having a very public trial after finding out he had abused 39 children on his own on a period of 20+ years.

FrozenVent posted:

the joke around quebec is that in saguenay, cousins and sisters are ok because there's not much choice otherwise, so... yeah...

or wait was that lac st-jean? whichever's the place where there's like two last names (Tremblay and Tremblay) and there's a genetic disorder that only occurs in that specific area

It used to be true, in that most of the region of Saguenay Lac-St-Jean was founded by 21 families a couple of centuries ago and so genetic diversity was not super high. This has changed in the last few generations and nowadays the consanguinity rates are on par with the rest of the province or country, but genetically speaking the damage was already done many generations ago and few recessive genes causing multiple diseases are still widespread.

People can get genetic testing for free if they're from two families of the region to prevent this -- even if you and your partner are from families that have been distinct for 3-4 generations you might still be a carrier -- and to avoid passing it on. The tests are made available in a wider area of the province this year I believe because, well, people moved out and those genes are now making it to a wider population basin within the province. It's probably a bit similar to the icelandic app that lets you know if you could accidentally be dating cousins or something.



But back to techbubble: the FCC repeal stuff became official for real or something?

MononcQc fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Feb 23, 2018

Bulgakov
Mar 8, 2009


рукописи не горят

the world would be a better place if any and all self-righteous tech valley smartest schmucks in the room nose dove their private planes into a nevada flatland

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

Bulgakov posted:

smartest schmucks in the room

yospos would empty out overnight

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe
lomarf: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/feb/22/snapchat-redesign-12m-signature-petition-social-media-app-kylie-jenner-celebrities

quote:


More than $1bn was wiped off Snap Inc’s market value on Thursday, in one of the company’s worst trading days since it went public last year – and the rout was led by a bored tweet from a member of the Kardashian clan.

Kylie Jenner, one of the first wave of celebrities whose fame grew primarily on Snapchat over other social media firms, shared her disappointment with the app on Twitter late on Wednesday: “sooo does anyone else not open Snapchat anymore? Or is it just me ... ugh this is so sad,” she said. “[S]till love you tho snap ... my first love”.

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Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



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