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Does anyone know which socialist horticultural society I am referring to? I thought I heard it in passing but now I am wondering if I just dreamt it up
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there is a sort of angry joy in my heart at the lib dems atm having vince cable as their leader adn then trying to go on a sort of hip social media offensive based on their platform of "we have no strong ideals" and "labour is popular and its uncool to like popular things" even their strongest ideal is "brexit is bad" and they still wont just revoke it, they still wanna be mealy mouthed and offer a second ref instead for a chance to be humiliatingly defeated like they crave i feel like bringing them back like this is just fanservice for me though and has jumped the shark a bit, but its a way to get the same perverse joy you can get as a UKer reading Succccc zone where you see Very Important People insisting the best way to walk down the stairs is to hurl yourself down them as hard as possible with your head exposed the bit in the vid where someone says "corbyn wants brexit because the EU is a bad capitalist club" and shrugs when someone asks if that could be true and the next sentence talks about the strong ideals of the libdems is peak Libdem imo
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Feb 22, 2018 13:40
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Barry Foster posted:He's well known for having an allotment and making homemade jam, and giving it to people as gifts. He also loves trains and collects pictures of manhole covers, is a vegetarian, and doesn't drink.
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Feb 22, 2018 13:40
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whats fun is that "corbyn will be spending money the country doesnt have!" totally misunderstands how money works, all the parties could be spending like bellows and offering whatever insane projects they want to their voters, they wouldn't even need to raise taxes, if you fuckin wanted you could cut taxes and massively raise spending, you could spend while not taking in any tax, you'd just have to find ways of combatting inflation (since thats all tax does at its base level, it destroys money from circulation to reduce inflation, it does NOT fund spending) that they dont is telling, it tells you politicians either don't know how money works (extremely likely) or they dont want to give you nice things (also extremely likely) either because they're cruel milk-snatching tories or they're centrist dads who think free housing is one step on the road to gulags and guillotines
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Feb 22, 2018 13:51
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government spending is literally part of GDP so if the gov spends our GDP goes up, the formula for GDP is insanely simple the tories for 10 years have basically been trying to make GDP go up by adding as many minus numbers to the equation as possible and scratching their heads in ape-like confusion when it doesnt work
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Feb 22, 2018 13:53
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Imagine Rees Mogg trying to eat a Pringle. Fucker would probably go into convulsions.
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nopantsjack posted:there is a sort of angry joy in my heart at the lib dems atm The best part about the Lib Dems is that they are loving dead (barring something like Corbyn, Abbott and McDonnell all get assassinated and the melts somehow take over) but all their supporters still love Cable, Farron and Clegg Like, they are killing your party. What the gently caress
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SteelMentor posted:Imagine Rees Mogg trying to eat a Pringle. I ate...a Cheeto.
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Feb 22, 2018 14:12
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twoday posted:What's the source of the jam thing? during an interview with the bbc he gave the interviewer a jar of jam he'd made as a present
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Feb 22, 2018 14:19
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MikeCrotch posted:The best part about the Lib Dems is that they are loving dead (barring something like Corbyn, Abbott and McDonnell all get assassinated and the melts somehow take over) but all their supporters still love Cable, Farron and Clegg Better dead than red They're a party for boring hipsters and less evil olds and reject the cult of personality of corbyn Funnily enough corbyns supporters describe him as a "boring jam grandad" whereas they're trying to spin Vince loving Cable as a respected economist lmao
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Feb 22, 2018 14:29
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yes lets delay more critical brexit stuff because it'll definitely succeed later for reasons. sure am glad insteasd of just letting the government collapse and either corbyn getting in charge or the mad brexiters get in charge shes just letting the mad brexiters run things so she gets to stay PM for who the gently caress knows why https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/966625182952710144
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Feb 22, 2018 14:50
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i guess turning in your assignment late is ok when youre prime minister
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Feb 22, 2018 15:11
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MikeCrotch posted:The best part about the Lib Dems is that they are loving dead (barring something like Corbyn, Abbott and McDonnell all get assassinated and the melts somehow take over) but all their supporters still love Cable, Farron and Clegg Tbf, I don't think anyone likes Farron, especially since his post-losing interview spree where he explained actually he was very homophobic and had just been lying for political gain.
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Feb 22, 2018 15:33
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I git a question about that Lib Dem commercial. What did they mean when talked about letting the voters decide on Brexit? Do they want a final Brexit solution to be presented as a referendum and the voter say yes or no? What happens if the voters say no, does the government have to negotiate it all over again? Would the EU even be OK with that? Is it part of a larger Lib Dem plan to make major policy decisions via referendums, or is it just this one thing?
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Feb 22, 2018 15:55
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Guy Goodbody posted:Is it part of a larger Lib Dem plan to make major policy decisions via referendums, or is it just this one thing? it's amazing the lib dems still want to stomp on the beartrap labeled "YOU DO NOT CONTROL A MAJORITY OF THE VOTING POPULATION, IDIOT", again, again.
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Feb 22, 2018 15:59
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Guy Goodbody posted:I git a question about that Lib Dem commercial. What did they mean when talked about letting the voters decide on Brexit? Do they want a final Brexit solution to be presented as a referendum and the voter say yes or no? What happens if the voters say no, does the government have to negotiate it all over again? Would the EU even be OK with that? it seems to me like they're trying to run on the issue of "Brexit bad, but we can still make it stop"
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The Lib Dem’s advocating for policies they cannot or would not actually implement when in power is kind of their thing
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Vince cable is an economist, who predicted the financial crash, but also fell for an extremely easy entrapment plot by a murdoch spy because he is a moronic letch.
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UrbicaMortis posted:Tbf, I don't think anyone likes Farron, especially since his post-losing interview spree where he explained actually he was very homophobic and had just been lying for political gain. I know a bunch of Lib Dems who were absolutely furious after Farron stepped down and thought he's been treated terribly and bullied by the media. At least TinTower was shocked after he came out and said "ACTUALLY I am a complete homophobe". Jose posted:yes lets delay more critical brexit stuff because it'll definitely succeed later for reasons. sure am glad insteasd of just letting the government collapse and either corbyn getting in charge or the mad brexiters get in charge shes just letting the mad brexiters run things so she gets to stay PM for who the gently caress knows why The Tories are putting everything off until after the May local elections, since that's going to determine whether they shitcan Theresa May or not Guy Goodbody posted:I git a question about that Lib Dem commercial. What did they mean when talked about letting the voters decide on Brexit? Do they want a final Brexit solution to be presented as a referendum and the voter say yes or no? What happens if the voters say no, does the government have to negotiate it all over again? Would the EU even be OK with that? It's just this one thing. And no, the EU have said before that if they negotiate a deal with the UK they expect that to be the deal. I don't think i've ever seen a Lib Dem square that with the "Take the deal or stay in the EU" referendum idea, the most likely outcome is that we would crash out if the deal was rejected (one of the reasons I think a referendum is a big pile of poo poo).
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jBrereton posted:Vince cable is an economist, who predicted the financial crash, but also fell for an extremely easy entrapment plot by a murdoch spy because he is a moronic letch. He might have predicted the crash but then he decided to go along with fixing the aftermath with austerity, and has never admitted that this was a terrible, terrible plan that didn't even succeed on its own merits
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UrbicaMortis posted:Tbf, I don't think anyone likes Farron, especially since his post-losing interview spree where he explained actually he was very homophobic and had just been lying for political gain. I still speak to Lib Dem’s who argue that sure he is homophobic but he never let it affect his voting so it’s fine. They’ll even double down when you point out he kept abstaining on any gay rights votes with a “But he didn’t vote against!” like that makes it okay
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MikeCrotch posted:He might have predicted the crash but then he decided to go along with fixing the aftermath with austerity, and has never admitted that this was a terrible, terrible plan that didn't even succeed on its own merits well yeah, fixing an economic downturn with austerity is like fixing a headwound by bashing it with a hammer e: i'm sure most people itt know but its worth saying for lurkers: its not like they got unlucky and mishandled austerity and it went bad, the only possible outcome of austerity was to damage the economy and the government was too evil, stupid or craven to realise this very basic, elementary economic fact Communist Thoughts has issued a correction as of 18:16 on Feb 22, 2018 |
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MikeCrotch posted:The best part about the Lib Dems is that they are loving dead (barring something like Corbyn, Abbott and McDonnell all get assassinated and the melts somehow take over) but all their supporters still love Cable, Farron and Clegg Well, would somebody still be a lib dem at this point if they weren't a political masochist?
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Taintrunner posted:only Imperator Corbynista can save us Imperator Thornberry and Mad Jezza?
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MikeCrotch posted:The best part about the Lib Dems is that they are loving dead (barring something like Corbyn, Abbott and McDonnell all get assassinated and the melts somehow take over) but all their supporters still love Cable, Farron and Clegg Adoration for loser Clegg?
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Taintrunner posted:only Imperator Corbynista can save us WE. ARE. COR. BOYS! (CORBOYS!) KAMI-CRAZY CORBOYS (CORBOYS!) FUKUSHIMA KAMI-CRAZY CORBOYS (CORBOYS!)
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Barry Foster posted:He's well known for having an allotment and making homemade jam, and giving it to people as gifts. He also loves trains and collects pictures of manhole covers, is a vegetarian, and doesn't drink. Dumb question, what's an allotment?
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A small area of land owned normally by a council and let to people in very small areas almost always used for vegetables/fruits
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Nebakenezzer posted:Dumb question, what's an allotment? It's a very british thing - because so many people live in apartments but want to be proper british gardeners, the state created little plots that you can rent out. Competition for one is fierce these days, there is often a considerably long waiting list. Traditionally food is grown there - I imagine it was something to do with rationing at some point - so it's a little rural slice for urban dwellers.
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MikeCrotch posted:It's just this one thing. And no, the EU have said before that if they negotiate a deal with the UK they expect that to be the deal. I don't think i've ever seen a Lib Dem square that with the "Take the deal or stay in the EU" referendum idea, the most likely outcome is that we would crash out if the deal was rejected (one of the reasons I think a referendum is a big pile of poo poo). Sorry for my ignorance, but isn't there a clock of some kind on this? They have only so much time to negotiate and agree to a deal with the EU, right? What happens if they don't manage to negotiate the deal in time? Is it literally just the UK suddenly has no trade or immigration with the rest of Europe?
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Mycroft Holmes posted:if this sort of thing happened in the us it would def. cause the collapse of society. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQHQIhJbeFo
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Guy Goodbody posted:Sorry for my ignorance, but isn't there a clock of some kind on this? They have only so much time to negotiate and agree to a deal with the EU, right? What happens if they don't manage to negotiate the deal in time? Is it literally just the UK suddenly has no trade or immigration with the rest of Europe? According to some Tory twit on NPR this afternoon, there's nothing to worry about because the deadline in March 2019 means they'll get it all done because if they haven't then they'll have missed the deadline 
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Guy Goodbody posted:Sorry for my ignorance, but isn't there a clock of some kind on this? They have only so much time to negotiate and agree to a deal with the EU, right? What happens if they don't manage to negotiate the deal in time? Is it literally just the UK suddenly has no trade or immigration with the rest of Europe? Pretty much. Plus no uk planes could legally land on the continent and a million other problems. We've been intertwined for so long that it's a complete clusterfuck to untangle.
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