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Pendent
Nov 16, 2011

The bonds of blood transcend all others.
But no blood runs stronger than that of Sanguinius
Grimey Drawer
Whoever it was the recommended Baneblade deserves a beer. That and Shadowsword were some of my favorite 40k books.

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berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

Pendent posted:

Whoever it was the recommended Baneblade deserves a beer. That and Shadowsword were some of my favorite 40k books.

That might have been me? I know I've recommended it a couple of times. I love the factory description at the beginning of Baneblade. It take one of the top spots in my "accurate description of the insanity of the 40K universe."

There are a couple of short stories related to the Baneblade crew as well, in case you haven't read them: "Iron Harvest" and "Stormlord."

Zasze
Apr 29, 2009

HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:

What is a soul, in Warhammer terms, and who has defined their properties? I always took it as rhetoric and metaphors rather than them truly 'not having a soul'. Rather, I take that to mean 'not having/having a weak warp presence', which confounds the senses of weak psykers.

It could be that the demon bathed him in enough warp stuff to corrupt him thus giving him a soul :tinfoil:

Groetgaffel
Oct 30, 2011

Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.

berzerkmonkey posted:

That might have been me? I know I've recommended it a couple of times. I love the factory description at the beginning of Baneblade. It take one of the top spots in my "accurate description of the insanity of the 40K universe."

There are a couple of short stories related to the Baneblade crew as well, in case you haven't read them: "Iron Harvest" and "Stormlord."

I too have been praising that book ITT.
The sequel is good too. Didn't know about the short stories however, are they some ebook exclusive thing?

MasterSlowPoke
Oct 9, 2005

Our courage will pull us through
I already knew all the information here, obviously, but if anyone wants to read the 40k books chronologically here you go

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4671/40422424601_3cdd8d7fa8_o.jpg

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



Christ that’s a lot of books.

Edit— at this stage are there more 40k books than Star Wars books? I think there might be.

susan
Jan 14, 2013

Xenomrph posted:

Christ that’s a lot of books.

Edit— at this stage are there more 40k books than Star Wars books? I think there might be.

Quick/probably wrong internet research indicates 390 Star Wars novels, as opposed to the ~600 Black Library novels (this would include all their settings, not just 40k). So, if not more, pretty loving close.

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



390 Star Wars novels sounds way, way high unless they’re counting, like, children’s books, YA stuff, etc.
And this is me speaking as a former Star Wars turbonerd who read every EU novel I could get my hands on, up until the end of the New Jedi Order series.

Hustlin Floh
Jul 20, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
If it makes everyone feel better, 90% of the Warhammer books are skip-able trash.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
390 books before you count guidebooks, kids books activity books and all other forms of media that Star Wars has ingrained themselves into.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Xenomrph posted:

390 Star Wars novels sounds way, way high unless they’re counting, like, children’s books, YA stuff, etc.
And this is me speaking as a former Star Wars turbonerd who read every EU novel I could get my hands on, up until the end of the New Jedi Order series.
The split between the YA and "adult" line is simultaneously more and less distinct these days. The adult books are standard Star Wars fare, but the YA stuff would get parents up in arms if they realised what their kids were reading.
One of the characters does a sex! :ssh:

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


Arquinsiel posted:

It's got a psychic laser in it that stores up the dead psykers that it killed, and then it fires out bits of soul at people.

2nd ed was crazy as gently caress, and I miss it.

I agree, but the Culexus first appeared in Codex: Assassins which was iirc a 3rd ed book.

Edit: I am wrong, forgive me.

Camrath fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Feb 23, 2018

Syncopated
Oct 21, 2010

Arquinsiel posted:

The split between the YA and "adult" line is simultaneously more and less distinct these days. The adult books are standard Star Wars fare, but the YA stuff would get parents up in arms if they realised what their kids were reading.
One of the characters does a sex! :ssh:

It would be a pretty poo poo YA book if it didn't have that.

frogge
Apr 7, 2006


Ciaphas Cain is the best. Reading the first omnibus and it's exactly what I want to see in this setting. Best imperial perspective ever.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Syncopated posted:

It would be a pretty poo poo YA book if it didn't have that.

Star Wars' EU is astonishingly sex-less. It took a long time for any of the books to refer to it at all - otherwise it was all "characters get married, later show up with two kids, end of story."

susan
Jan 14, 2013

Syncopated posted:

It would be a pretty poo poo YA book if it didn't have that.

A part of me really wants to see what YA Black Library would look like. Probably a lot like Ciaphas Cain, honestly, but if that's the case then bring it on.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Cythereal posted:

Star Wars' EU is astonishingly sex-less. It took a long time for any of the books to refer to it at all - otherwise it was all "characters get married, later show up with two kids, end of story."

But when they did get sex they went full on child molestation. Troy Denning is loving scum.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Arquinsiel posted:

The split between the YA and "adult" line is simultaneously more and less distinct these days. The adult books are standard Star Wars fare, but the YA stuff would get parents up in arms if they realised what their kids were reading.
One of the characters does a sex! :ssh:

Flowers in the Attic was a huge YA success like 50 years ago.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Guy Goodbody posted:

Flowers in the Attic was a huge YA success like 50 years ago.
Most parents assume that Star Wars is "safe".

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



Arcsquad12 posted:

But when they did get sex they went full on child molestation. Troy Denning is loving scum.

Whoa, what?

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Xenomrph posted:

Whoa, what?

A thirty year old woman molests Luke Skywalker's fourteen year old son while strapping him down to a torture chair.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

Groetgaffel posted:

I too have been praising that book ITT.
The sequel is good too. Didn't know about the short stories however, are they some ebook exclusive thing?

Yeah, 90% of the time the shorts are ebooks only. At some point they sometimes get around to adding them to an omnibus or a short story collection.

Arcsquad12 posted:

A thirty year old woman molests Luke Skywalker's fourteen year old son while strapping him down to a torture chair.
Is this true? Are you sure you weren't reading a pirated ebook that 4Chan got its hands on and modified?

berzerkmonkey fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Feb 23, 2018

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine
Starting Ravenor. I thought I had started it after finishing the Eisenhorn books and shorts but I must not have.

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

New Eisenhorn (Magos) is out. Ebook in 2 days.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Is it a collection of old stories or a new book?

McCoy Pauley
Mar 2, 2006
Gonna eat so many goddamn crumpets.

euphronius posted:

Is it a collection of old stories or a new book?

The Amazon description says it's a new novel and a collection of the existing short stories:

"The Magos is the brand new, full-length fourth novel in the hugely popular Eisenhorn series. This paperback edition also includes the definitive casebook of Gregor Eisenhorn, collecting together all twelve of Dan Abnett’s Inquisition short stories, several of which have never been in print before. These additional stories have been compiled by the author to act as an essential prologue to this long-awaited new novel, while also serving as an indispensable companion to the original Eisenhorn trilogy."

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



Arcsquad12 posted:

A thirty year old woman molests Luke Skywalker's fourteen year old son while strapping him down to a torture chair.

Yikes. That must have been after I jumped ship with the Star Wars EU, I don’t think Luke’s kid was much older than a newborn in the New Jedi Order.

Immanentized
Mar 17, 2009

McCoy Pauley posted:

The Amazon description says it's a new novel and a collection of the existing short stories:

"The Magos is the brand new, full-length fourth novel in the hugely popular Eisenhorn series. This paperback edition also includes the definitive casebook of Gregor Eisenhorn, collecting together all twelve of Dan Abnett’s Inquisition short stories, several of which have never been in print before. These additional stories have been compiled by the author to act as an essential prologue to this long-awaited new novel, while also serving as an indispensable companion to the original Eisenhorn trilogy."

I don't feel like I'm getting a straight answer out of this. Is it just another one of their anthology books that has a scene framing mechanism that helps link otherwise unrelated stories together?

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

berzerkmonkey posted:


Is this true? Are you sure you weren't reading a pirated ebook that 4Chan got its hands on and modified?

Absolutely True. Invincible is one of the worst Star Wars books ever written, and the sexual assault and gratuitous torture porn is a big part of it.

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



The first line says it’s a full length novel, and then it’s accompanied by a bunch of short stories that act as prelude material to said novel.

I didn’t even know we were getting a new Eisenhorn novel until, like, last week. I was in my local GW store and the GM was talking about how this Saturday is Black Library’s 20th anniversary so they’ll have signed copies of the new book, a new Eisenhorn miniature (with gameplay stats), stuff they’ll be giving away, and it’ll generally be a party.

I like supporting my local GW nerd store, and the GM is a genuinely cool dude, and he makes a bit of a frowny sad face when I buy Warhammer stuff from anywhere other than GW, but Magos is on sale for $6 under retail at Amazon versus the full retail I’d pay in the GW shop.
An Eisenhorn mini sounds cool too but something tells me the full retail price will make me balk a little bit, too.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
I kind if want the mini, but not enough to actually go get it and pay GW prices really.

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



I’ve got the old Ciaphas Cain mini, it’s funny how self-aware it is once you realize it’s depicting a propaganda moment. Cain is holding the wrong gun (just as he does on the cover of every Cain book) and behind the mound of alien heads he’s standing on is a step stool - it’s all faked and deliberately posed for propaganda purposes.

a shitty king
Mar 26, 2010
Interesting. The list of stories includes a couple I read back in the day that aren't about the Inquisition at all. Pestilence is about a disease specialist of some kind interviewing a crippled Guard colonel at an insane asylum for soldiers to get to the bottom of a plague. And the other is about a Magos Biologis being drawn into an investigation into a mysterious animal killing people.

They're neat stories but unrelated to Eisenhorn. I wonder if their inclusion would indicate the characters will show up in The Magos.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
Or he's pulling a Tom Clancy and it'll all mesh in as data flows back up the chain and gets to Jack Ryan Eisenhorn.

a shitty king
Mar 26, 2010
I went back and looked at the stories. He actually wrote a couple of stories about Magos Drusher, the Magos Biologis who gets reluctantly dragged into weird wildlife matters. Also one of the Skoh hunter dynasty as featured in Ravenor is in one. They're billed as 'A Magos Drusher story' which indicates they might have become a longer term thing at one point. After all at the start BL were mainly doing short stories and then working the real hits up into full series, like Gotrek and Felix and Gaunt's Ghosts.

Maybe Magos Drusher is The Magos that the title refers to? I hope so. He's a fun character with pretty sympathetic backstory (quiet animal expert nerd who always gets dunked on, but secretly likes the thrill of new investigations, and definitely is not a fighter).

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
The gap betwen the Gotrek and Felix and Ghosts books was non-trivial though.

He says, a much longer time later...

CaptainAttitude
May 31, 2003

This haircut was a good idea.

Pendent posted:

Whoever it was the recommended Baneblade deserves a beer. That and Shadowsword were some of my favorite 40k books.

Well, poo poo. I almost bought that today but went with that Space Sharks vs Night Lords book instead. I'll get Baneblade next.

susan
Jan 14, 2013

CaptainAttitude posted:

Well, poo poo. I almost bought that today but went with that Space Sharks vs Night Lords book instead. I'll get Baneblade next.

In all fairness, 'Red Tithe' is pretty fun too.

mythicknight
Jan 28, 2009

my thick night

Finished Hero of the Imperium. That was frakking amazing. I'll leave Defender of the Imperium for later, don't want to get fatigued on Cain.

Before I jump into Ravenor I think I'm going to re-read Eisenhorn since it's been a long time and I've forgotten most of it already.

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SnakesRevenge
Dec 29, 2008

Remember the basics of CQC, Snake!
Holy poo poo Pandaemonium is an awesome title

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