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1st_Panzer_Div. posted:Should I bother with trying 1 at this point or just get 2? It's really good and isn't going to be outright obsoleted by 2 unless something changes, but I'd only get it if you have a group of 4 because the public population will probably move on along with people in this thread
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Coolguye posted:trueflight directly kills the majority of an oncoming horde with 0 risk And captain knocks them all down so there's 0 risk.
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That power doesn't knock down many of the enemies in a wave unless you're already 100% surrounded by all of them, and it doesn't knock them down for long enough to kill them all I'm not really concerned about the balance of any individual career vs another right now as the game's not out yet, but their existence is another matter
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Digirat posted:It's really good and isn't going to be outright obsoleted by 2 unless something changes, but I'd only get it if you have a group of 4 because the public population will probably move on along with people in this thread 1 is gonna be pretty obsolete.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:1 is gonna be pretty obsolete. VT1 will always have one thing over the sequel.
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Vargs posted:VT1 will always have one thing over the sequel. 
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Is there a reason they shout "These stairs go up!" every time they see some? That's how stairs work, we all get it.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:1 is gonna be pretty obsolete. by what metric
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Digirat posted:by what metric A newer prettier better version of it comes out next week
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Fans posted:Is there a reason they shout "These stairs go up!" every time they see some? That's how stairs work, we all get it. sometimes they go down
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Mechafunkzilla posted:A newer prettier better version of it comes out next week 1'll still be worth playing for its maps, imo; since it's not like they're gonna get ported into 2 at least the dwarf dlc; those three were top-tier
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dmboogie posted:1'll still be worth playing for its maps, imo; since it's not like they're gonna get ported into 2 It's a loot progression game, the idea of a new player downloading Vermintide 1 to "experience the maps" on normal difficulty with a crappy white geared character is really dumb
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Mechafunkzilla posted:It's a loot progression game, the idea of a new player downloading Vermintide 1 to "experience the maps" on normal difficulty with a crappy white geared character is really dumb eh
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Mechafunkzilla posted:It's a loot progression game, the idea of a new player downloading Vermintide 1 to "experience the maps" on normal difficulty with a crappy white geared character is really dumb  no it isn’twe aren’t in the discord playing it for literally hundreds of hours after we’ve gotten oranges of every weapon because there’s some number we’re watching go up
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Digirat posted:
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Ok, well for people without brain problems it's a loot progression game
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It is really weird that people in here are talking about the possibility of some sexual relation between characters pointed out in the dialog and not how bardin is an anti-semite.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Ok, well for people without brain problems it's a loot progression game jesus christ hitting rats is fun, dude
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Digirat posted:That power doesn't knock down many of the enemies in a wave unless you're already 100% surrounded by all of them, and it doesn't knock them down for long enough to kill them all And for the trueflight to kill them all they have to be standing in a line and not running at you.
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dmboogie posted:jesus christ it's okay
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Nanomashoes posted:And for the trueflight to kill them all they have to be standing in a line and not running at you. you do realize that the name of the active is trueflight VOLLEY right dmboogie posted:jesus christ 
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Both vermintides are fun games that I play for the fun of it not to get loot.
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I like vt2 much more but I still rate vt1 a solid 12 out of 10
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Still crossing my fingers that Vermintide 2 will get the L4D2 treatment and the previous installment's maps get ported over, so long as the sequel's engine makes it feasible.
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Third World Reggin posted:It is really weird that people in here are talking about the possibility of some sexual relation between characters pointed out in the dialog and not how bardin is an anti-semite. Did I miss a line where Bardin talks about some other relative who sends him emails about chaos being fake news?
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What's up with there being no keybinding for the pistol fire when using the rapier with the Witch Hunter? I didn't even know it existed till I did it by accident at like level 5. Also, why is the rapier the only weapon where you also get the offhand pistol? It seems like there is literally no reason to ever use any other melee weapon since the rapier does everything better. Fast attacks for hordes, pistol shots to thin/take out elites, and the charge attack is easy to aim for killing bosses...
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Frustrated posted:What's up with there being no keybinding for the pistol fire when using the rapier with the Witch Hunter? I didn't even know it existed till I did it by accident at like level 5. Also, why is the rapier the only weapon where you also get the offhand pistol? It seems like there is literally no reason to ever use any other melee weapon since the rapier does everything better. Fast attacks for hordes, pistol shots to thin/take out elites, and the charge attack is easy to aim for killing bosses... it sucks but it's clearly a beta thing, that was rebindable in VT1.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Ok, well for people without brain problems it's a loot progression game I was almost ready to take this seriously and then I saw last posted here in 2015 lol
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Frustrated posted:What's up with there being no keybinding for the pistol fire when using the rapier with the Witch Hunter? I didn't even know it existed till I did it by accident at like level 5. Also, why is the rapier the only weapon where you also get the offhand pistol? It seems like there is literally no reason to ever use any other melee weapon since the rapier does everything better. Fast attacks for hordes, pistol shots to thin/take out elites, and the charge attack is easy to aim for killing bosses... The keybinding thing is a beta bug, but if the rapier pistol ends up working like VT1 in the full version of the game it will have a limited number of shots instead of being an infinite ammo railgun.
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Longbow's pretty good. I'm warming up to it more than Hagbane, probably because it's way more powerful in the right hands. And it's just so much more satisfying and easy to use than V1.  
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Fans posted:Is there a reason they shout "These stairs go up!" every time they see some? That's how stairs work, we all get it. I imagine it's an audio callout to urge people in the way of progress. In case someone isn't sure where to go next in a map because it's large or whatever, hearing a character and looking around for them can point towards GO THIS DIRECTION TO END MAP instead of flailing around lost.
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It seems items drop Power Level depending on your highest character. I'm curious if anyone knows if it counts 'items in inventory' or 'items equipped' for this purpose.
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Atoramos posted:It seems items drop Power Level depending on your highest character. I'm curious if anyone knows if it counts 'items in inventory' or 'items equipped' for this purpose. I assumed it was based on that character's level, not their Power Level. Ergo, it doesn't look at their actual inventory at all. Do you have extensive proof of this or just a few drops?
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The max power of items depends on difficulty. Boxes from Normal only go up to 100 power, hard 200, Nightmare 300 (But I've only seen this on red) and presumably 400 cata. Leveling one character obviously has some sort of global modifier where crafting or opening boxes on level 1 characters gives you max power for the box you open, but you still need the appropriate character level on the other hero to get higher qualities like Blue and Orange. Also, somebody posted some stuff from the source code. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qO2oe8v0yX2rbR126UoDeIFQ7Eto5wMXmV-qKMHp3rM/edit#gid=1371971868 Some attacks have a ‘mass modifier’ for specific enemies - this is shown in the spreadsheet but not yet implemented in the ‘# targets’ calculation. (The modifier reduces enemy mass by 25% for that attack.) Staggered enemies also have reduced mass (25% again). These may account for discrepancies you see when testing in-game. One thing really drew my attention in that there is a base crit rate of 5%, and the Elf Shade gets a hidden +5% bonus, and dual wield weapons get a +10% on light attacks. Guess I was right about Daggers being her ideal weapon there.
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Atoramos posted:It seems items drop Power Level depending on your highest character. I'm curious if anyone knows if it counts 'items in inventory' or 'items equipped' for this purpose. it's been steadily increasing while i haven't changed my equipment, so i would think it counts the items in your inventory.
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