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totalnewbie
Nov 13, 2005

I was born and raised in China, lived in Japan, and now hold a US passport.

I am wrong in every way, all the damn time.

Ask me about my tattoos.
Speaking of thermostats, I installed a thermostat over the weekend. I even had to buy a drill bit to put another hole in the stone tile where my old one was, because it had two holes on top left/right and one in the bottom middle (big rectangular thing) and I replaced it with a Nest, which just has one at the top and one at the bottom.

I assume I'm just going to have to live with two random holes in that tile. Maybe I could put the old one back in when I sell the house...

Hey, I officially "did some stuff around the house". Whoop.

For the record, it works.

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H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

totalnewbie posted:

Speaking of thermostats, I installed a thermostat over the weekend. I even had to buy a drill bit to put another hole in the stone tile where my old one was, because it had two holes on top left/right and one in the bottom middle (big rectangular thing) and I replaced it with a Nest, which just has one at the top and one at the bottom.

I assume I'm just going to have to live with two random holes in that tile. Maybe I could put the old one back in when I sell the house...

Hey, I officially "did some stuff around the house". Whoop.

For the record, it works.

Just make sure you put it back before the realtor takes pictures. Or just don't bring it up. If the biggest issue in your house is 2 random screw holes in the wall you're doing good.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
Oh I didn’t know that. We just had our entire HVAC system replaced in 2016 so hopefully our thermostat has something like that.

For now I’ll just go off a visual of the filter when I pull it out. It’s over a year old now and I have two cats.

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe

totalnewbie posted:

Hey, I officially "did some stuff around the house". Whoop.

For the record, it works.

Congratulations, you've done more than most people ever will. You are now officially "handy".

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
Lipstick Apathy


Ohdear :ohdear: :ohdear:

What have we done?!?

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

All I see is ASSSS

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal

Potrzebie posted:



Ohdear :ohdear: :ohdear:

What have we done?!?

You bought a house with some very good locks and some very bad locks.

Sepist
Dec 26, 2005

FUCK BITCHES, ROUTE PACKETS

Gravy Boat 2k
Man I just had my wife's uncle quote us for a set of outside L shaped deck stairs - $5,700. That's with a $1,000 family discount. We had budgeted $2k for it. Houses are expensive.

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

Potrzebie posted:



Ohdear :ohdear: :ohdear:

What have we done?!?

Made it so you should rekey your house? :v:

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
Lipstick Apathy

H110Hawk posted:

Made it so you should rekey your house? :v:

Make a copy of the keys, test on every house you encounter, profit?

devicenull
May 30, 2007

Grimey Drawer

Potrzebie posted:



Ohdear :ohdear: :ohdear:

What have we done?!?

Given everyone on the internet a copy of your keys?

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
Lol god drat you nerds no one gives enough of a poo poo about your new money pit to dupe keys you posted online.

Also you clearly bought an abandon apothecary or some poo poo with those keys.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

My keys all read ASSSS, poo poo, and PISSSSSS

meat police
Nov 14, 2015

Secret Garden havin’ rear end

FuzzySlippers
Feb 6, 2009

Anyone buy one of these 'hybrid' electric water heaters that are supposed to be way cheaper to run than older ones? The two manufacturers seem to be Rheem and A.O. Smith and I find lots of complaining about both along with effusive reviews but that also seems to be how trying to comparison shop house appliances goes.

Do you get a plumber to install these or an electrician?

Also, new house is great but I miss how anything breaks == call landlord versus trying to figure out what is a plumber, electrician, or generalist handyman problem.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal

QuarkJets posted:

My keys all read ASSSS, poo poo, and PISSSSSS

Front Door, Back Door, and Shed, duh whose doesn't.

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

FuzzySlippers posted:

Anyone buy one of these 'hybrid' electric water heaters that are supposed to be way cheaper to run than older ones? The two manufacturers seem to be Rheem and A.O. Smith and I find lots of complaining about both along with effusive reviews but that also seems to be how trying to comparison shop house appliances goes.

Do you get a plumber to install these or an electrician?

Also, new house is great but I miss how anything breaks == call landlord versus trying to figure out what is a plumber, electrician, or generalist handyman problem.

Do you use electricity or gas to heat your water? Honest to god boilers are hard to beat in terms of efficiency. It looks like they use a heat pump which is the current gold standard for electrically moving heat if your ambient conditions support it.

It's going to depend heavily on your climate and location of the unit how much money you save. For example, if it's in air conditioned space with relatively warm tap water most of the year the savings will be negligible. (Think Texas in the summer.)

You call a plumber. Make sure you run the math, as appliances approach >90% efficiency per joule of energy (watt, btu, whatever) you hit hugely diminishing returns. If you go from a 30 year old -> energy star modern efficient unit in ideal temperature conditions? Sure it's probably fine. If not? Probably just stick to something traditional but better insulated.

FuzzySlippers
Feb 6, 2009

H110Hawk posted:

Do you use electricity or gas to heat your water? Honest to god boilers are hard to beat in terms of efficiency. It looks like they use a heat pump which is the current gold standard for electrically moving heat if your ambient conditions support it.

It's going to depend heavily on your climate and location of the unit how much money you save. For example, if it's in air conditioned space with relatively warm tap water most of the year the savings will be negligible. (Think Texas in the summer.)

You call a plumber. Make sure you run the math, as appliances approach >90% efficiency per joule of energy (watt, btu, whatever) you hit hugely diminishing returns. If you go from a 30 year old -> energy star modern efficient unit in ideal temperature conditions? Sure it's probably fine. If not? Probably just stick to something traditional but better insulated.

Thanks, this is Seattle so it says fairly cool but never gets absurdly Minnesota cold. We don't have AC. Currently we have a very old heater I'd guess it dates back to the original build (80s). We use electricity to heat because the house doesn't have a gas line (unfortunately).

We also noticed when the upstairs bath overflow drains there is a slight leak in the downstairs ceiling near the water heater. Think we'd save money having the plumber come out and check that leak and do the install at the same time?

I found our public utility offers rebates for buying one of these which would bring the price down near a cheap normal one. Their page does list some issues with heat pump water heaters tho. It says:

"Because the heat pump exhausts cool air in the area where it is located, the water heater should be installed in a location that would isolate cool air, or is ducted to the outside. Examples are in a garage or unheated/unfinished basement, attic or crawlspace"

the water heater is in our laundry room which doesn't have exhaust (except the dryer duct which doesn't count presumably since it is closed) and is on the first floor not an unfinished basement or anything.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
We installed a tankless Rheem heater when we converted our house to natural gas. Also in Seattle.

For the ducting, we just had the contractor send a 4” pvc pipe out the exterior wall of our laundry room.

The only downside is that you don’t get instantaneous hot water with it. The good thing is once it heats up, you will never run out of hot water. Mine takes 30-40 seconds of running to get hot water going.

totalnewbie
Nov 13, 2005

I was born and raised in China, lived in Japan, and now hold a US passport.

I am wrong in every way, all the damn time.

Ask me about my tattoos.
Speaking of water heaters, what about replacing the traditional ones with an on-demand one? What about a programmable one with a panel in another room? I've lived in places where you can control hot water temp from the kitchen or whatever and it was great, but I don't know how it is in the context of replacing what I already have.

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

FuzzySlippers posted:

We also noticed when the upstairs bath overflow drains there is a slight leak in the downstairs ceiling near the water heater. Think we'd save money having the plumber come out and check that leak and do the install at the same time?

You know what will save you more money? Not having your house end up having a 2nd floor bathtub in your 1st floor water heater closet. Call a loving plumber.


FuzzySlippers posted:

Thanks, this is Seattle so it says fairly cool but never gets absurdly Minnesota cold. We don't have AC. Currently we have a very old heater I'd guess it dates back to the original build (80s). We use electricity to heat because the house doesn't have a gas line (unfortunately).

I found our public utility offers rebates for buying one of these which would bring the price down near a cheap normal one. Their page does list some issues with heat pump water heaters tho. It says:

Ducting is going to be cheap and easy. It's going to be more money to repair one of these things, so you should price them both compared to your potential savings. You will be using (in a sense) your general central heating (resistive? heat pump+resistive?) to heat the air in your house, this will then heat the water in your tank, making up for any deficiencies with resistive heating. If you have to repair the unit once for $500 then you might be way underwater ( :v: ) compared to a regular one.

FuzzySlippers
Feb 6, 2009

Oh I'm definitely getting a plumber asap I was just dithering on whether to rush buy a water heater too. This new house ownership thing makes me terrified of anything structural on it.

Damn Bananas
Jul 1, 2007

You humans bore me
The person who tiled my shower grouted over the drain's "+" holes in the screw heads, so I can't get the screws out to remove the drain cover. I need to get a hairball out. I prefer to not use chemical dissolvers, and am not thrilled on the idea of pulling chunks out with needle nose pliers or a coat hanger. Is there a way to get this grout out of my screws?

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
Do you own a dremel or know someone who does?

Damn Bananas
Jul 1, 2007

You humans bore me
Good idea, thanks. Charging its battery now. I don't think any of the attachments are skinny enough for this little screw head though. My husband is currently chiseling it with a screwdriver, we'll see how that goes.

Apparently this is how I spend my Friday nights now in my 30s :toot:


edit: Screw is out; hairball is out! :woop: :barf: :woop:

Damn Bananas fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Feb 24, 2018

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

:woop:

Sock The Great
Oct 1, 2006

It's Lonely At The Top. But It's Comforting To Look Down Upon Everyone At The Bottom
Grimey Drawer

Congrats. My kids love that water table.

minivanmegafun
Jul 27, 2004

H110Hawk posted:

loving joys of homeownership my furnace isn't transitioning from the initial test airflow stage to the "fire" stage. It's going to get down to 32f here tonight and my fragile Los Angeles skin cannot take the bitter cold.

My rugged Chicago skin insists your pipes won’t freeze and to grab a few more blankets

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

minivanmegafun posted:

My rugged Chicago skin insists your pipes won’t freeze and to grab a few more blankets

Too late I died

Lyon
Apr 17, 2003
Thought you guys might get a kick out of this. My girlfriend and I bought a house about a year ago and the kitchen was a wreck but we decided we would live with it as is for 2-5 years before we had it renovated. Somehow in between the home inspection and us moving in all the electric outlets in the kitchen stopped working except for the one where the refrigerator was plugged in. My girlfriend used this lack of electricity to talk me into accelerating our kitchen renovation plans so we went about finding a contractor and ended up hiring a company to do the design and remodel.

During the demolition of the old kitchen and laundry room, I think it was the second day of the whole project, they were ripping out the sub-floors in the laundry room and one of the workers dropped his crowbar and didn't hear it hit the ground. He thought that was weird so they started carefully removing the sub-floor in that area.



That looks weird. Let's keep removing more sub-floor.



The house we bought had two additions on it and I guess for the second one they just built right over the old 22 foot deep well that was on the property. They didn't even make an attempt to seal it up. The well is dry when there is no rain but if it rains (or snow melts) it fills with water. So the sub-floor and floor joists were rotten from all the moisture coming out of the well. Luckily sealing the well and replacing the floor joists only cost us an extra ~$1,600. Possibly saved us a lot of money in the long run if that part of our house had started to collapse.

Lyon fucked around with this message at 09:39 on Feb 26, 2018

Catatron Prime
Aug 23, 2010

IT ME



Toilet Rascal

Whelp, that's the stuff off nightmares, thanks for that.

E: just to be clear, murder/grudge well monster house I'm perfectly fine with, it's the expensive unknown repairs that keep me up at night.

Catatron Prime fucked around with this message at 13:31 on Feb 26, 2018

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Lyon posted:

Thought you guys might get a kick out of this. My girlfriend and I bought a house about a year ago and the kitchen was a wreck but we decided we would live with it as is for 2-5 years before we had it renovated. Somehow in between the home inspection and us moving in all the electric outlets in the kitchen stopped working except for the one where the refrigerator was plugged in. My girlfriend used this lack of electricity to talk me into accelerating our kitchen renovation plans so we went about finding a contractor and ended up hiring a company to do the design and remodel.

During the demolition of the old kitchen and laundry room, I think it was the second day of the whole project, they were ripping out the sub-floors in the laundry room and one of the workers dropped his crowbar and didn't hear it hit the ground. He thought that was weird so they started carefully removing the sub-floor in that area.



That looks weird. Let's keep removing more sub-floor.



The house we bought had two additions on it and I guess for the second one they just built right over the old 22 foot deep well that was on the property. They didn't even make an attempt to seal it up. The well is dry when there is no rain but if it rains (or snow melts) it fills with water. So the sub-floor and floor joists were rotten from all the moisture coming out of the well. Luckily sealing the well and replacing the floor joists only cost us an extra ~$1,600. Possibly saved us a lot of money in the long run if that part of our house had started to collapse.

Oh cool, you bought buffalo bills house

McStabby
Jun 26, 2007

LANA!!! CRUUUUUSH!
Did he get his crowbar back?

extravadanza
Oct 19, 2007
Don't they find a well under some floorboards in The Ring? Watch out OP, maybe don't watch any VHS tapes.

meat police
Nov 14, 2015

How would they go about sealing it?

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

I imagine putting some filler in there but stopping every 8-10 ft to drop in a couple of playboys for historical record.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal

meat police posted:

How would they go about sealing it?

Catholic Priest from the exorcist.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

meat police posted:

How would they go about sealing it?

If it's into the water table it needs to be slurry filled so groundwater can't end up down there and gently caress things up for every else's wells.

For $1,600 - I doubt that was done nor DEP permits pulled.

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug

meat police posted:

How would they go about sealing it?

Start with an unbroken circle of salt.

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Lyon
Apr 17, 2003

Motronic posted:

If it's into the water table it needs to be slurry filled so groundwater can't end up down there and gently caress things up for every else's wells.

For $1,600 - I doubt that was done nor DEP permits pulled.

Correct, we did not fill it nor did we pull any permits. No one has actual wells here (mandated city water) so there is no worry about groundwater loving up anyone else's wells. The contractor essentially dug around the well, ran rebar, mesh, then more rebar, and then cemented over it. After that they covered the entire floor (included the section with the well) in a plastic sheeting meant to prevent moisture from getting into the house from the ground as it was just dirt underneath the joists. Structurally he likened it to building a deck over the well and it was perfectly safe to walk on.

I was in Toronto for work when this happened and my girlfriend slept with the lights on until I got home because she was freaked out.

McStabby posted:

Did he get his crowbar back?

The crowbar is forever sealed in the well, RIP. We planned to put together a time capsule but didn't really know what to put in it and weren't sure what would survive for a long time with the fact that water does partially fill it after a heavy rain.

Lyon fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Feb 26, 2018

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