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SciFiDownBeat posted:wasn't there a standoff between some rednecks in Oregon who didn't pay taxes and the county government like a year or two ago? Please ignore they were white. Seriously the government is not gonna drone a bunch of angry whites with guns.
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Feb 23, 2018 20:19
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sugar free jazz posted:six dollars for coffee AND avocado toast??? yeah what a steal!
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Feb 23, 2018 20:21
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Soldiers don't have an "us vs them" attitude towards US citizens. They're not the police. They won't shoot their countrymen and will dissert in droves/potentially kill their superiors if they don't agree to the orders they are given.
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Feb 23, 2018 20:33
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Solice Kirsk posted:They will dissert in droves/potentially kill their superiors if they don't agree to the orders they are given. Yea this happens all the time.
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Feb 23, 2018 20:35
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Solice Kirsk posted:Soldiers don't have an "us vs them" attitude towards US citizens. They're not the police. They won't shoot their countrymen and will dissert in droves/potentially kill their superiors if they don't agree to the orders they are given. 2) Standing Rock involved soldiers and the National Guard in addition to various cops. None of them were like fragging their superiors
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Feb 23, 2018 21:01
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RCarr posted:Yea this happens all the time. I’m thinking of the last hugely unpopular war .... starts with a “v”. Now tell your current military to invade its own country. Standing rock is a bad example because they are not white or anything dealing with the constitution. Crab Dad fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Feb 23, 2018 |
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Feb 23, 2018 21:03
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loquacius posted:I don't get the initial incident -- the guy's bedroom was inside his apartment, right, so he could easily have deadbolted his door himself and then made something up because he was mad you were giving him poo poo for talking to his girlfriend. The rest of the stuff could have been sleep paralysis or something similar; once when I was a kid I was 100% sure I'd seen a UFO out my bedroom window but it was probably just that. It sounded to me like the following in close succession. 1.) Confessor reaches to open door... 2.) Hears immediate click of deadbolt sliding home, as if dude had been watching for someone to approach through eyehole 3.) Confessor shouts abuse at dude inside for locking door on him 4.) Dude shouts back from audibly deep inside the apartment (not really knowing what was going on) and thus not at the door to lock it 5.) Ergo, Casper the Friendly Ghost
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Feb 23, 2018 21:07
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I always laugh when people talk about how they do an ocular patdown of the room and find the nearest exit like it's some impressive secret agent type thing. They're loving marked with bright red exit signs and is usually the same way you came in. It doesn't take Jason Bourne to know that kind of stuff.
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Feb 23, 2018 21:08
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LingcodKilla posted:Standing rock is a bad example because they are not white or anything dealing with the constitution.
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Feb 23, 2018 21:08
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Anne Whateley posted:1) The police have tanks and plenty of other military poo poo Oh word? Did they get ordered to fire on the protesters? Because if there was some sort of giant slaughter of protesters by the US Army that I just missed then I'm sorry. If not then why the hell would they revolt against their command? Because they were ordered to stand there and keep protesters in check? That's a big difference. I'm saying if the "shoot the unarmed protester" order ever got issued a lot of the soldiers wouldn't follow through. RCarr posted:Yea this happens all the time. Obviously it doesn't, but neither do orders to kill US civilians.
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Feb 23, 2018 21:19
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The thing is they're not ever going to say "shoot the unarmed protestor." They're going to say "that's not a protestor that's a terrorist who hates American values, and his hand is in his pocket so he's armed, you have to do it for your own safety." What they did at Standing Rock was not "stand there and keep protesters in check," I really recommend you read the wikipedia article because a lot of pretty awful poo poo happened. Can you excuse it as "well they should've obeyed if they didn't want that to happen!"? Yeah absolutely, so can soldiers, that's the point.
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Feb 23, 2018 21:24
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If you think there's a non-zero chance of living if you shoot a firearm at a police officer or member of the military in the US, you are delusional.
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Feb 23, 2018 21:27
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Solice Kirsk posted:Obviously it doesn't, but neither do orders to kill US civilians. Does it count as killing if a drone does it? RCarr posted:If you think there's a non-zero chance of living if you shoot a firearm at a police officer or member of the military in the US, you are delusional. As an American I was surprised to read in the Oka article that the Mohawks weren't systematically exterminated after one of them killed an officer
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Feb 23, 2018 21:30
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Where are all these drone strikes on US civilians from the military happening that I'm missing? There's gotta be some for it to have been brought up a bunch. Seriously, did I miss something? I remember there was that one guy that we droned in Syria or Afghanistan that was a US citizen that joined ISIS or something, but that's the only one I can remember. edit: Like for real, has there been some? Please send me links so I can get really really mad.
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Feb 23, 2018 21:36
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SciFiDownBeat posted:As an American I was surprised to read in the Oka article that the Mohawks weren't systematically exterminated after one of them killed an officer Not exactly easy to just "exterminate" a thousand native warriors who already know about the smallpox trick, with modern technology, on their land, with the whole world watching
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Feb 23, 2018 21:40
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Solice Kirsk posted:Where are all these drone strikes on US civilians from the military happening that I'm missing? There's gotta be some for it to have been brought up a bunch. Seriously, did I miss something? That is way too hamfisted for the USA in 2018. That's some primitive-rear end direct action poo poo. Would you like some links about botnet manipulation of social media or activists 'committing suicide' instead? edit: here's a flowchart 
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Feb 23, 2018 21:44
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SciFiDownBeat posted:wasn't there a standoff between some rednecks in Oregon who didn't pay taxes and the county government like a year or two ago? Yes. The basic gist: a bunch of “Patriots” who were cranky about the BLM took over a wildlife refuge. They were comically ill-prepared, begged online for food, and threw garbage in holes. The government, not eager for Waco 2: Electric Booglaoo, just waited them out. Upon their escape, one of these geniuses either went to surrender and got killed by a trigger-happy fed, or went for his gun and got killed by a fed, depending on how corrupt you believe the government to be. And, in Oregon’s grand tradition of failing at even the most basic judicial tasks, they somehow all got off pretty much free.
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Feb 23, 2018 22:33
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I was there when the NSF overran Squalnomie.
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Feb 23, 2018 23:36
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On the one hand, History shows us what can happen to populations when they're dearmed and believe the government will protect them. On the other hand, there is no parity in weapons technology or propaganda ability between any form of resistance or militia versus the U.S. Government today. The ideal situation is that U.S. Soldiers would not fire on civilians if given the order. The reality is, we have people who want to kill other people right now for saying things like "black lives matter" or "gently caress Trump". Your guns aren't going to protect you if the government decides to be lovely, no matter what you think. Anyway, Jason Bourne anon, thank you for protecting all of us feeble babies. You're a real U.S. of A. hero.
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Feb 24, 2018 00:29
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The kind of people who supposedly buy guns to "defend themselves" would almost certainly never be the ones to save us in a disaster. This is because, to have the mindset you already have to be kind of a wimp anyway, and they also have a really bad grip on reality outside of cartoons and gritty tv dramas.
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Feb 24, 2018 03:32
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Imagine being the kind of person who hears about a mass shooting and their first thought is, "heh, if only I were there [high budget dream sequence where they heroically stop the attacker because they have perfect 20/20 knowledge of the situation]"
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Feb 24, 2018 03:44
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SciFiDownBeat posted:Imagine being the kind of person who hears about a mass shooting and their first thought is, "heh, if only I were there [high budget dream sequence where they heroically stop the attacker because they have perfect 20/20 knowledge of the situation]" Dan Bilzerian
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Feb 24, 2018 03:52
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420 SWAGLORD posted:That is way too hamfisted for the USA in 2018. That's some primitive-rear end direct action poo poo. Would you like some links about botnet manipulation of social media or activists 'committing suicide' instead? I would like these links as well as where ever you got that flow chart.
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Feb 24, 2018 06:01
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AutumnDDP posted:The kind of people who supposedly buy guns to "defend themselves" would almost certainly never be the ones to save us in a disaster. This is because, to have the mindset you already have to be kind of a wimp anyway, and they also have a really bad grip on reality outside of cartoons and gritty tv dramas. They'd probably be helping round up whichever minority the government has decided to scapegoat, in the name of freedom
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Feb 24, 2018 10:51
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sugar free jazz posted:six dollars for coffee AND avocado toast??? I know right! where’s this Bernie sanders altar I wanna sign the gently caress up
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Feb 24, 2018 11:32
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420 SWAGLORD posted:That is way too hamfisted for the USA in 2018. That's some primitive-rear end direct action poo poo. Would you like some links about botnet manipulation of social media or activists 'committing suicide' instead? It bothers me they left off the no on the first decision box.
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Feb 26, 2018 03:18
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Just gonna post a big ol' dump todayquote:This confession is garbage but I've gotten no explanation from Google so I will ask goons anonymously: Why on earth would you ask this anonymously instead of just posting in one of the several tech-oriented subforums  Anyway this might be a driver issue or something. That one was less of a confession and more of a tech-support question so it didn't count. quote:I am the original Puppetmaster, the one who was trying to get the Anon thread tanked, not that lame rear end Conspiracy theory reporting "Puppet Master". I vote for colorful tropical birds Here's a followup from ghost story dude: quote:It had crossed our minds that "Mike" or whatever I called him might have been lying about locking the door - but that would have been completely out of character for him. "Yeah, I locked you guys out because I didn't want you guys to gently caress with me." no big deal. First off, he didn't lock it when he went inside - we heard the deadbolt, from outside, like 5-10 minutes after he went inside, and it clicked as I was reaching for the door handle. So he'd have to go inside, talk for a few minutes, predict/decide on his own (since he couldn't hear us) that we might barge in and then walk back into the living room without us hearing him leave the bedroom, and deadbolt the door instead of just turning the knob lock. That, and even if it was him, he'd have to keep up the charade for months, even after they broke up which I guess is possible. But really, the kicker was the first thing he said to us when he opened the door: "Did you guys lock the door?"
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Feb 26, 2018 16:31
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Puppet master goon: Make you next derail about Fahrenheit vs Celsius again. It never fails. Freedom vs Communism......
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Feb 26, 2018 16:40
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loquacius posted:Why on earth would you ask this anonymously instead of just posting in one of the several tech-oriented subforums Those could be tracking pixels: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_beacon But those are usually transparent  I've met a lot of privacy minded people, and the ones who are less technical tend to be ridiculously paranoid - probably as a side effect of not having the technical ability to understand what sort of tracking is / is not possible.
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Yeah, I've implemented tracking pixels (for my job) and you are not supposed to be able to see those things. I don't think it's that unless anon has some sort of browser plugin that could be inadvertently highlighting HTML elements.
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Feb 26, 2018 16:47
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loquacius posted:Yeah, I've implemented tracking pixels (for my job) [extremely edward snowden voice] hissss
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Feb 26, 2018 16:49
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Caganer posted:[extremely edward snowden voice] Yeah that's the one thing I've ever had to do for work that I've hesitated over for moral reasons I'm ok with it though bc the company I work for isn't Google or Facebook, doesn't collect any data not related to how people are using our site, and couldn't do anything notable with that data if it had it
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Feb 26, 2018 16:51
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loquacius posted:Yeah that's the one thing I've ever had to do for work that I've hesitated over for moral reasons but do you share it w/ data brokers? the issue is not so much the big players, it's more that a ton of little sites give to brokers who collate. ps can i have a job
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Feb 26, 2018 17:15
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How does a tracking pixel work? And what kind of data can you track? I know about cookies or facebook buttons tracking you even if you don't click them but I never heard about pixels... Not paranoid just interested.
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Feb 26, 2018 19:59
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Hopper posted:How does a tracking pixel work? And what kind of data can you track? I can get the ip of who viewed it. You can serve unique file names to each individual user so if it’s loaded you know they visited a given page. That can be correlated with other data.
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Feb 26, 2018 20:15
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Hopper posted:How does a tracking pixel work? And what kind of data can you track? But, again, lumping all of this together as "tracking" is oversimplifying: you have to consider both the data that's being collected and what the recipient is doing with that collected data. A major company like Facebook is both less likely to sell their data wholesale (they might use it for ad targeting but consider it enough of a competitive advantage that they won't share it with others) and more likely to catch a major negative press cycle if they misuse it.
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Feb 26, 2018 20:20
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Thank you, so that's basically how all porn sites know what we are into.
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Feb 26, 2018 20:46
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If the PMs at my company our selling our tracking data they're certainly not telling me about it
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Hopper posted:How does a tracking pixel work? And what kind of data can you track? By having tracking pixels all over the Internets, it is possible to follow someone across sites via referer headers. Also frequently used by marketing teams just for general page use analytics - totally unnecessary as you can just pull it directly from logs, but multiple firms have convinced marketing people that spending lots of money using their platform is a great idea. And yeah, most likely scenarios are either a) driver / screen issue or b) adblock or the like blocking the element from being rendered.
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