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checkplease
Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
I finally picked up a copy of the hans zimmer live recording, and its really well made. Far superior to any youtube videos of it out there. The only downside though is that the recording is from the 2016 tour, so no wonder woman theme in it. Its hard for me to pick a favorite out of the various "suites" for the concert. At first, I would have said the Pirates set, but the dark knight set has grown on me with its energy a lot. And interstellar, and superman, and gladiator. Really they are all just so well done for the concert.

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Darko
Dec 23, 2004

I like the Pirates suite the best, but that's partially bias because I believe One More Day is his best composition and Tina Guo kills it on the cello.

Cross-Section
Mar 18, 2009

So John Williams basically went and rearranged Han Solo and the Princess from ESB.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KboCO09N7A4

It's a little meandering compared to the basically-flawless original, but a new motif (pops up around 1:36, 3:06, and 4:30) has me intrigued in a way that makes me wonder if we may be getting a little preview of what he's writing for the Solo film.

Cross-Section fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Feb 6, 2018

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
He's only doing the Solo main theme, while John Powell is doing most of the score.

The rearrangement of Han Solo and the Princess sounds a bit like a requiem for their relationship considering how it ended with them apart and then dead.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

Ooh, I like John Powell when he isn't scoring animated movies. I hope he has some freedom and gets creative with it, instead of just trying to follow in John Williams' footsteps like Rogue One did.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer

Mierenneuker posted:

Ooh, I like John Powell when he isn't scoring animated movies. I hope he has some freedom and gets creative with it, instead of just trying to follow in John Williams' footsteps like Rogue One did.

I dont think we're ever gonna get a Star Wars movie where they get creative freedom and not take cues from William's work. Disney so far has developed a history of low to no risk playing it safe and I doubt Solo, which looks absolutely awful so far, is gonna change that.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Jesse Harlin and Mark Griskey are always going to be my preferred picks to score a star wars film. They both "get" the spirit of Williams' music better than anyone without aping his music too much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIoYjsKWLmA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe4wzUYzmTA

Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Feb 7, 2018

AccountSupervisor
Aug 3, 2004

I am greatful for my loop pedal
We lost Johann Johannsson today at 48. Way too young. He was one of my favorite composers even before he broke into Hollywood. An absolute tragedy.


http://deadline.com/2018/02/johann-johannsson-dies-obituary-the-theory-of-everything-composer-1202284591/

safe harbor
Jul 18, 2004
EMO AS FUCK

AccountSupervisor posted:

We lost Johann Johannsson today at 48. Way too young. He was one of my favorite composers even before he broke into Hollywood. An absolute tragedy.


http://deadline.com/2018/02/johann-johannsson-dies-obituary-the-theory-of-everything-composer-1202284591/

Imagine what could have been. I was hoping he would have been able to score the Dune remake.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

While not a movie composer, Ramin Djawadi is doing stadium tour playing music from his Game of Thrones scores.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

While not a movie composer, Ramin Djawadi is doing stadium tour playing music from his Game of Thrones scores.

He is more known for his television work, but he's done movies (and some video games) as well.
Iron Man 1, Pacific Rim, the Warcraft movie, The Mountain Between Us, to name a few.

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

AccountSupervisor posted:

We lost Johann Johannsson today at 48. Way too young. He was one of my favorite composers even before he broke into Hollywood. An absolute tragedy.


http://deadline.com/2018/02/johann-johannsson-dies-obituary-the-theory-of-everything-composer-1202284591/

Oh gently caress, that really sucks. I really liked his style, the Theory of Everything score is great and I love Sicario’s score too. The guy was really versatile. What a loss.

FeastForCows
Oct 18, 2011
drat, I just watched Arrival yesterday and said "I really like this soundtrack" and the news apparently already broke shortly before that.

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

Random choice cut I listened to recently:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEAudSB-JCI

Late 90's Williams had some good stuff.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I really feel like Williams was trying to channel Maurice Jarre in his Lost World soundtrack. I get Lawrence of Arabia hints in the Lost World main theme.

Late 90s Williams also has one of his weakest soundtracks as well, Saving Private Ryan. It's not because the music is bad, it is just so tonally wrong for that particular movie. SPR as a film tries to tear down the notion that the war was a noble cause and instead focuses on how sending eight men to their deaths to save one man is a total waste. Matt Damon is left psychologically scarred by the ordeal and having to live with the fact that his own blind patriotism got more men killed.

But John Williams apparently didn't get that memo and wrote some of the most swelling patriotic greatest generation adoring pomp in his entire catalogue. It clashes so completely with the film of think it was intentional satire if it wasn't so sincere sounding.

Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 07:11 on Feb 21, 2018

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
i... really don't think that's how you're supposed to take SPR. i think you're going to have a hard time getting a Jewish director to say the Allies didn't have a noble cause in the European front of WWII.

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

Howard Zinn was quite Jewish and served on a bomber in WW2 but he thought it was a imperialist war where the US was only a bit better than the Third Reich or USSR.

DeafNote
Jun 4, 2014

Only Happy When It Rains
I feel it should be mentioned at least once in this thread that Black Panther's score was great.
The score, not the Kendrick album with music that doesnt even really show up in the movie all that much

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.

FreudianSlippers posted:

Howard Zinn was quite Jewish and served on a bomber in WW2 but he thought it was a imperialist war where the US was only a bit better than the Third Reich or USSR.

The best part of that story is how Zinn only frames that realization as being something that some other nameless pilot told him, so you're left with the lingering helplessness of Zinn telling you, "A lot of this 'greatest generation' had no illusions about what the war represented. These were not ivory tower intellectuals or rebel-rousing activists. They were regular people doing what they thought was the best possible option for them and/or for others, but who were nonetheless critical of the entire foundation of what they were doing."

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


The greatest generation--the last of the true American heroes, who fought alongside Captain America and cast the ring into the fire, would never be anything but selfless crusaders.

Also I think most people would say that World War II was the last of the imperialist conflicts between the western European powers. They meant to have that nipped in the butt in 1918, but poo poo happens.

Anyway, film music. Black Panther in my opinion is the first MCU movie in a while to go with a music strategy besides "wallpaper."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uip95CIVOEU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MI0ZVTpZyM

Name Change fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Feb 25, 2018

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

I would love to hear the cut/mix between the k-hiphop(?) song and the score during the chase scene again. I remember it being pretty smooth, for I moment I suspected it was going to be a song like Mona Lisa Overdrive from The Matrix: Reloaded (cutting back and forth).

DeafNote
Jun 4, 2014

Only Happy When It Rains

dont even fink about it posted:

Anyway, film music. Black Panther in my opinion is the first MCU movie in a while to go with a music strategy besides "wallpaper."

I still appreciate The Winter Soldier for trying something different, and enjoyed a few scores here and there.
But this is the first one where I like almost everything.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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The MCU scores are good except they don’t push the theme hard enough. The biggest issue. It’s what stops them from being iconic.

I’m curious to see what they’ll do with Infinity War considering they got Silvestri back and double downed on using his theme. I’d imagine it won’t be as sparse as it was in the first one.

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice

CelticPredator posted:

I’d imagine it won’t be as sparse as it was in the first one.

I appreciated Silvestri’s approach to the theme in Avengers; how its full expression is reserved to highlight moments of great import or scale. It gives the theme and the moments where it’s used more weight.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Silvestri's best Marvel theme is still the Captain America march.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

It’s so good that Whedon realized this and used it in Age of Ultron.

DeafNote
Jun 4, 2014

Only Happy When It Rains
Iron Man has like 5 separate themes
Guardians of the Galaxy are at least consistent so far.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

"Taking a Stand" is the perfect Cap theme to me. I wouldn't mind if they used it again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U-TTvP0J98

CelticPredator posted:

The MCU scores are good except they don’t push the theme hard enough. The biggest issue. It’s what stops them from being iconic.

Dr. Strange on the other hand references its main theme over and over again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D1TPh9u094

Mierenneuker fucked around with this message at 10:46 on Feb 26, 2018

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice

Mierenneuker posted:

Dr. Strange on the other hand references its main theme over and over again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D1TPh9u094

As well it should, it owns bones.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
It just sounds like Enterprising Young Men played on a harpsichord to me.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

Strange didn’t use it enough. The Mummy Returns has a perfect theme to score ratio. Use that shiiittttttt

TheBigBudgetSequel
Nov 25, 2008

It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me.
the score for Doctor Strange was the first one I legit walked out of the theater humming, because it's used frequently and is dope as gently caress. Harpsicord, gently caress yeah.

Black Panther is also a loving great score. I love the "king" theme that appears in the ancestral plane, and whenever the Dora Milaje do something badass, their chanting motif is just through the roof cool.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I've been skimming through orchestral remixes of television scores and I came across a London Symphony Orchestra rendition of the original Gundam Soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXsokrngCBg

For reference, this is what the original sounds like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn27jQAuoWw

Sir Potato
May 26, 2012

PO-TAY-TOES
Boil 'em, mash 'em, cook 'em in a stew
I'm a huge sucker for spacey music and Zimmer nails it completely with Sea Wall from the Blade Runner 2049 soundtrack. Easily my favorite part of the movie. Genuinely upset something like 3 Billboards got nominated for Original Score but not this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NujlXgBmUoU

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I'm usually not too fond of Zimmer. He's fine as a composer and I don't have the seething frustration for him like I did for James Horner, but he's mostly just perfunctory in my mind. But his Blade Runner score knocked it out of the park. Stuff like the opening titles or the Flight to the LAPD or Wallace are outstanding ambient tracks.

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

Shameful confession, I've grown to really like the Avengers theme and all its variants. It's corny in just the right superhero way. And I'm a sucker for the brass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72MeeEMDXps

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice
I don’t know what’s shameful about that, Silvestri’s Captain America march and Avengers theme are fuckin’ aces. I’m super glad the Infinity War trailers have given the theme the prominence it deserves for once and I’m looking forward to seeing what Silvestri does with the soundtrack.

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

I used to hate it, mostly by association I have to admit, so it was a whole process for me coming around to liking it as much as I do, but after watching the latest Avengers trailer and hearing the version in that I realized how rad it is.

Dr. Gargunza
May 19, 2011

He damned me for a eunuch,
and my mother for a whore.



Fun Shoe
The Marvelcineverse scores were basically wallpaper to my ears, until I finally watched Captain America and remembered how much of a sucker I am for 30's/40's music. "The Star-Spangled Man with a Plan" is just :allears:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i574Em3IrI

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Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

Yeah, the Marvel movie scores are completely forgettable for the most part, just generic bombastic noise in the background. Which is a huge shame really, just about every movie could have had their own iconic theme, though like I said, they did pull that off with the Avengers and I'm glad they've stuck to it instead of writing a new theme for each movie. Some tried to do their own thing but missed the mark pretty spectacularly. Thor could've done a lot of cool stuff with actual Norse instruments for instance but nnnnope.

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