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Felime
Jul 10, 2009

Booley posted:

Depending on exactly what I'm testing I often use plastic spoons. They're plastic so can gear primed the same as anything, and have a bit of dimension to them. For things like skin you may want something with a bit more shape, so some cheap reaper bones can work as test figures. Or an old metal model you can just throw in acetone to strip.

When I was getting back into painting, I got some of the stupid stripperiffic wargames factory female zombies. Lots of exposed skin. They were dirt cheap, and if the skin color is weird they're zombies.

For painting tips, I am a big fan of mixing different colors into skin tones. The standard Vallejo dwarf flesh(roughly equal to cadian fleshtone) is ok for speed painting, but mixing in a grey, purple, etc can really punch it up a notch. For my custodes captain I wanted a somewhat pallid tone, and dwarf flesh mixed with a hint of gray really delivers.

Mixing flesh tones also gives a nice continuity. If you do do a flesh tone mixed with three different grays, or a purple, then straight then a bone color it will still look coherent because there is a component constant across all the layers.

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Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug
Fin. This model has a lot of casting issues to deal with.











Dr. Gargunza
May 19, 2011

He damned me for a eunuch,
and my mother for a whore.



Fun Shoe

Philthy posted:

Fin. This model has a lot of casting issues to deal with.













:swoon: That's a really smooth paint job there. Those glowy bits!

Booyah- posted:

e: these are pretty sloppy obviously but here are some tests I did a while ago:



From left to right
1. Bugman's glow with cadian fleshtone. I kind of stopped in the middle with this one.
2. Cadian flesh tone, reikland wash, kislev highlight.
3. Kislev flesh with reikland wash and no touch up
4. Kislev flesh with reikland wash, kislev touch up
5. Flayed one flesh with reikland wash and flayed one touch up

Those are pretty nice, actually.

If you're curious about some Official Games Workshop© Flesh Tones, the November '17 issue of White Dwarf had a page or two dedicated to reproducing some fairly common examples. I'm not posting images of the pages here because :filez:, but the gist of it was this:

Dark Flesh (think African/Caribbean skin tones)
Base: Rhinox Hide
Wash: Nuln Oil, all over
Layer: Rhinox Hide, raised areas
Layer: Doombull Brown, highlights

Ruddy Flesh (typical AoS Khorne dudes)
Base: Bugman's Glow
Layer: Cadian Fleshtone, raised areas
Wash: Reikland Fleshshade, recess shade
Layer: Kislev Flesh, highlights

Light Flesh (light Caucasian/GW customers)
Base: Kislev Flesh
Wash: Reikland Fleshshade, recess shade
Layer: Kislev Flesh, raised areas
Layer: Flayed One Flesh, highlights
Layer: Pallid Wych Flesh, extreme/edge highlights

Pale Flesh (sort of vampiric)
Base: Rakarth Flesh
Wash: Reikland Fleshshade, all over
Layer: Rakarth Flesh, raised areas
Layer: Pallid Wych Flesh, highlights

Pallid Flesh (albino/canon Raven Guard)
Base: Rakarth Flesh
Layer: Pallid Wych Flesh, raised areas
Wash: Reikland Fleshshade mixed with Lahmian Medium, recess shade
Layer: Pallid Wych Flesh, highlights
Layer: White Scar, extreme/edge highlights

Obviously you can include your own variations to these recipes; for example, I like to mix a little purple in with the Reikland/Lahmian mix if I'm doing vampires or outlining scar tissue. You could also experiment with "unnatural" shades like Athonian Camoshade for zombies, Nurgle stuff, etc. But this was a nice little bonus in the middle of the magazine, and I in no sense purchased an entire issue of White Dwarf for what amounted to like 1-2 pages of content, nosirree.

Skails
Feb 24, 2008

Born-In-Space

Kabuki Shipoopi posted:

Got bored at my flgs and decided to paint up the store's terrain:



First time painting marble. Wasn't too worried about it being perfect as it's just going to get tossed around anyways.

This looks pretty good.


BULBASAUR posted:

You wanna thin the Testors Gloss Clear Acrylic with water. If it's an enamel use spirit. As for using a matte vs gloss varnish undercoat- gloss doesn't pool the paint and lets it really gets into the cracks for stuff like pin washes. This is probably the best comparison shot I have:


See how smudged it looks? That's because the undercoat varnish was matte. If it was a gloss varnish undercoat it would be much cleaner and look like runny water streaks instead.


Thanks for this. I'm doing agrax over yellow and its been a pain to clean up, all smudged up like that tank. Would a thinned coat of liquitex gloss medium/varnish over my models be enough to let the wash flow?

Science Rocket
Sep 4, 2006

Putting the Flash in Flash Man

I think I'm going to give a few of these a try over the weekend. Thank you

SRM
Jul 10, 2009

~*FeElIn' AweS0mE*~
Painted up Chaplain Grimaldus and his hype men - some of my favorite sculpts I've ever gotten to paint:









I also converted up some markers for Age of Sigmar - 3 Hold the Line markers, Inspiring Presence, Wildform, and Mystic Shield:

Dr. Gargunza
May 19, 2011

He damned me for a eunuch,
and my mother for a whore.



Fun Shoe

Science Rocket posted:

I think I'm going to give a few of these a try over the weekend. Thank you

Hey, don't thank me.  Thank Games Workshop©®™.
 
I've actually discovered a succession of flesh tones I like to use, from a couple of different paint companies (and mostly not GW :ssh:).  I'll obviously supplement these with GW washes, depending on the general tone I'm going for.  Here are the paints I use, from darkest to lightest:
Vallejo Game Air (VGA) Charred Brown
VGA Dark Fleshtone
Privateer Press (P3) Khardic Flesh
P3 Midlund Flesh
P3 Ryn Flesh
VGA Pale Flesh
Vallejo Model COlor (VMC) Pale Sand
VMC Light Silvergrey or GW Pallid Wych Flesh
 
I'm fond of the VGA and P3 paints because their consistency is a lot smoother out of the bottle; P3 in particular gets this by using inks as their main pigments.  Vallejo also has a handy flesh-painting set for their VGA paints.
 
Reaper also makes a series of Triad paints, which are (as the name implies) three paints that together make up a base/shade/highlight combination for a particular color value.  Several of these triads are for flesh tones, and they're pretty great, though they sometimes need a little embellishment with other paints/washes to really pop.  I used one of the triads on the skin of this Fat Yuan-Yuan:
 

 
This was the Reaper Olive Skin Triad, shaded with some Agrax Earthshade/Lahmian Medium combo, and with the topmost highlights boosted a bit with some VMC Pale Sand.
 
All of the paints I've suggested above can be thinned with a glaze medium (I like Vallejo's), which will help you apply them in thin, translucent layers to build the color to the intensity you want.  Flesh is almost never angular, so anything that can help you get smooth transitions between shades is helpful.
 
Hope that helps!

SRM: ...holy poo poo, dude. Those BT's look great!

Lethemonster
Aug 5, 2009

I was hiding under your bench because I don't want to work out
I have been practicing :3



BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat
That looks pretty dang good, Lethemonster.

Skails posted:

Thanks for this. I'm doing agrax over yellow and its been a pain to clean up, all smudged up like that tank. Would a thinned coat of liquitex gloss medium/varnish over my models be enough to let the wash flow?

You bet. Put a thin coat of gloss varnish on your tank. Then put some gloss medium/varnish into your wash. It will make it flow like butter and will really help with pooling.

If you have an airbrush you can spray the wash onto your model to create a filter like effect. If your goal is to only shade the cracks use a brush.

Dr. Gargunza
May 19, 2011

He damned me for a eunuch,
and my mother for a whore.



Fun Shoe

Lethemonster posted:

I have been practicing :3





That's some darn nice weathering you've got there, Lethe. What's your technique?

Kabuki Shipoopi
Jun 22, 2007

If I fall, you don't get the head, right? If you lose the head, you're fucked!

Skails posted:

This looks pretty good.

Hey thanks! :)

Felime
Jul 10, 2009
To put my money where my mouth is regarding the gray and flesh tone, have a shield captain.




Science Rocket
Sep 4, 2006

Putting the Flash in Flash Man

Thanqol posted:

That purple desperately needs an edge highlight. It's so dark it's similar to the green which just makes the colours run into each other. Get a light purple and do an edge highlight and it'll clearly define the colours so much better.

:doh:

I was so excited that I finally put together some Plague Marines that weren't from the 'Know No Fear' set that I skipped purple highlights completely for the squad so far.

Autodrop Monteur
Nov 14, 2011

't zou verboden moeten worden!

Lethemonster posted:

I have been practicing :3





This is a very cool chieftain!

So I recently got my first airbrush, an Iwata Eclipse HP-CS and I was wondering if there's an ideal thinning ratio for vallejo model and game colour for airbrush usage?

Thanqol
Feb 15, 2012

because our character has the 'poet' trait, this update shall be told in the format of a rap battle.

Science Rocket posted:

:doh:

I was so excited that I finally put together some Plague Marines that weren't from the 'Know No Fear' set that I skipped purple highlights completely for the squad so far.

Looks so much better!

Lethemonster
Aug 5, 2009

I was hiding under your bench because I don't want to work out

MG42 posted:

This is a very cool chieftain!

So I recently got my first airbrush, an Iwata Eclipse HP-CS and I was wondering if there's an ideal thinning ratio for vallejo model and game colour for airbrush usage?

There's no ideal because it's relevant to the individual paints, which each have different viscosities and pigments grain sizes, and how close you are to the model and what you pressure is.

A good rule of thumb is to thin things so that if you dip a soft paint brush in it and lift it out, the paint it will drip off it. At that point, any paint should run through the brush without clogging or drying even down to 8psi.

I really recommend the vallejo airbrush thinner and cleaner. I spent ages convinced that eh, I could make my own there's no difference, but those things are magic.

When you're first getting used to airbrushing I recommend erring on the side of thinner layers which you can dry quickly using the airflow from the airbrush as opposed to thicker paint for less layers.

It's worth picking up a few of their specialist airbrush paints and seeing how they feel so you have a good idea what to aim for.

Autodrop Monteur
Nov 14, 2011

't zou verboden moeten worden!
Thanks for the advice!

I had ordered the airbrush thinner, cleaner and flow improver with my airbrush, so that's covered.
Now that I think of it, I have a bottle or two of vallejo model air paints and play around with those.

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug

Lethemonster posted:

When you're first getting used to airbrushing I recommend erring on the side of thinner layers which you can dry quickly using the airflow from the airbrush as opposed to thicker paint for less layers.

I no longer do this because you will often times have left over droplets of paint and water in and around the tip and while you are blowing air, it'll randomly pick up those droplets and you'll wonder why your perfectly smooth cape transition now has red dots all over the recesses.

Then you will become very very angry.

If you want to speed up drying, I suggest a hair dryer. As much as blowing air through an airbrush is convenient, it's too much risk. At least, for me.

dexefiend
Apr 25, 2003

THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING!
I got a manly hair drier. A Heat Gun. It cost like 15 bucks and I can use it for home repair stuff.

It is also quieter than a hair drier, which is good because my painting time is after the kids are asleep.

Pro tip: never use the high setting, it is way too hot.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



Heat guns are also great for bending resin or polishing shoes!

Luminaflare
Sep 23, 2010

No one man
should have all that
POWER BEYOND MEASURE


Polishing shoes?

Chance II
Aug 6, 2009

Would you like a
second chance?
You use it to heat up the shoe polish. We used to light the polish on fire briefly before rubbing it onto our boots back in the navy.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



You can also use it to melt the polish into the cracks and pores of the leather after it's on your boots, it's part of how how you can get that glass finish.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
Pledge Future is your friend when spraying with acrylics, by the way. It's a great general-use thinner for any weird bottles of paint you find. Just 50/50 it with water and make sure to clean it out of the brush after.

It's also extremely cheap for a bottle that will last you a century.

kalel
Jun 19, 2012

Total mini painting newb here. I'm going to be doing a lot of experimentation and reading over the next few months to prepare for my first mini painting adventure.

Just one odd question: does the length of time between priming and painting matter at all? I live in an apartment and plan to airbrush prime at my parent's house. But depending on how much personal time I'll have while I'm there, I might end up leaving the primed minis at the house and coming back another time to pick them up. They live a non-trivial amount of driving away from me.

Edit: also, is there anything in the OPs that is completely out-of-date in tyool 2018?

Booley
Apr 25, 2010
I CAN BARELY MAKE IT A WEEK WITHOUT ACTING LIKE AN ASSHOLE
Grimey Drawer

SciFiDownBeat posted:

Total mini painting newb here. I'm going to be doing a lot of experimentation and reading over the next few months to prepare for my first mini painting adventure.

Just one odd question: does the length of time between priming and painting matter at all? I live in an apartment and plan to airbrush prime at my parent's house. But depending on how much personal time I'll have while I'm there, I might end up leaving the primed minis at the house and coming back another time to pick them up. They live a non-trivial amount of driving away from me.

Only if you let them get dusty and don't clean the dust off. It's actually recommended by some primers to let them dry for at least 24h before you paint over them.

in circles
Feb 7, 2004

physics, physics, physics.
I’ve just finished painting my first ever mini figures and I’m pretty happy with them. Just need to tidy up the edges of the bases.



I’ve got some cheap Space Wolves off eBay to strip and paint now.

S.J.
May 19, 2008

Just who the hell do you think we are?

Any tutorials or information on making models look wet, like they're in the rain? A buddy of mine is trying to get that effect for his skeletons and I'm not sure where to point him to. Bases are easy enough with wet effects but I'm more interested in the models themselves.

Avenging Dentist
Oct 1, 2005

oh my god is that a circular saw that does not go in my mouth aaaaagh
Use acrylic gloss medium/varnish and paint it on in the areas you want to look glossy (after you use your Dullcote, of course!).

Most single-part water effects are effectively just arcylic gloss medium too. Usually the biggest difference - if any - is that they're heavier-body (i.e. more viscous).

JackMann
Aug 11, 2010

Secure. Contain. Protect.
Fallen Rib
Finished up a mini for a half-orc warpriest I'm playing in a friend's game.





Hustlin Floh
Jul 20, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

in circles posted:

I’ve just finished painting my first ever mini figures and I’m pretty happy with them. Just need to tidy up the edges of the bases.



I’ve got some cheap Space Wolves off eBay to strip and paint now.

For your first effort these are amazing. For someone who's been at it for years these are more than "tabletop quality". Just don't play Space Wolves and you have a bright future ahead of you.

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug

in circles posted:

I’ve just finished painting my first ever mini figures and I’m pretty happy with them. Just need to tidy up the edges of the bases.



I’ve got some cheap Space Wolves off eBay to strip and paint now.

These look really good! Love those beaker marines.

JackMann posted:

Finished up a mini for a half-orc warpriest I'm playing in a friend's game.



Tabard and leather shading is tiptop.

Philthy fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Feb 25, 2018

Yeast
Dec 25, 2006

$1900 Grande Latte
My next army will probably be Drew Carries, so I'm trying out some colour schemes.

To start with, evil Iyanden.







I don't mind it, I'm probably going to change the skin suit to black tho. The light brown is too bland.

It's also a timely reminder that I'm still shithouse at free handing.

Boon
Jun 21, 2005

by R. Guyovich
I really like it, but if you're going to add flowers stick to red, the green don't stand out and kind of detracts. Alternatively, consider violet.

Yeast
Dec 25, 2006

$1900 Grande Latte

Boon posted:

I really like it, but if you're going to add flowers stick to red, the green don't stand out and kind of detracts. Alternatively, consider violet.

Yeah, 100% agreed. In the army I think I'll drop freehand altogether, or at most do the Dark Eldar sharp tribal patterns.

Irate Tree
Mar 12, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Thread, meet the small construct.




Found amidst a long dead menagerie, this creature succumbed to a parasite, which culminated in the prodigious growth sprouting from its back. The wizard, ever the pragmatist, saw the potential in this being's state and gave it new life and purpose - as a mobile hygienic dispenser.
"It has life but does it feel? Does it dream? Is it aware of what it has become or, is it forever in a restless fugue from which it may never wake?"

If you hadn't guessed, the colour scheme was based on Hollow Knight. My little tribute to an amazing game :)

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

Chance II posted:

You use it to heat up the shoe polish. We used to light the polish on fire briefly before rubbing it onto our boots back in the navy.

We would melt ours in an iron - just put the polish tin on the face of the iron for a bit. Got some drat fine looking boots out of that technique.

Aniodia
Feb 23, 2016

Literally who?

Traditional Games: Miniature Painting - Boot-Polishing Tips and Tricks Edition

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
I'm just imagining someone holding a 28mm scale polish brush in a pair of tweezers, gently rubbing his mini's boots

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Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Neurolimal posted:

I'm just imagining someone heating a 28mm scale polish tin on the tip of a soldering iron and holding a brush in a pair of tweezers, gently rubbing his mini's boots
FTFY.

And I bet there are already crazy Japanese modelers doing just that.

ed: wait wtf this isn't the scale model thread?

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