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ManofManyAliases posted:What is wrong with people? Well, it started with the mods like Toast not giving a poo poo about the community they represented and managed...
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Virtual Captain posted:Soliciting endorsements to appear on that page and in a new presskit section. My earlier instructions were bad and required posting which cuts out lurkers. I hope mine gets featured 
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I know CR isn't like a wizard of new ideas, but I can't help but feel like these aliens are terrible. It's like something the 1950s would make as an alien before they could do cooler suits for Alien xenomorphs. Don't even mind the fact they have unlimited ability for alien looks in cgi. Also, I really dislike how all of CRs aliens are always "barely out of the stone age, but uh we fly space ships too with our spears and swords and knives somehow".
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First of all, let me offer this emote to you for bringing up something that I keep forgetting about.  Now to the fun (dev) part. Even though my 5km range was hypothetical, it serves to highlight precisely how they have hosed up this whole thing by - you guessed it - doing a 64-Bit precision hack. I wrote about that, amid much derision by our Shitizen friends. 09/26/2017: Ben Parry 11/22-2015: my article 11-20-2015: Here on SA Now they've got huge numbers. And it's space. Because ANY implementation of a radar scan HAS to know the position of an entity being scanned, that location data not only needs to be obtained, stored, and updated - in real time - but that CANNOT be done without actually having accurate position data for the entity being scanned. You can't have an object that is 6km away, not show up on scanners that have a range of 5km. Sure, the object may exist, but the scanner has to not only cull out that info, but it HAS to rely on ACCURATE position and state changes for that object - REGARDLESS - of whether or not it is "in scope". Why? loving  ....because, consider this. ObjectX (target in the world that's likely to be scanned)pos1.client1: 4km from ObjectX // receives data pos2.client2: 5km from ObjectX // receives data pos3.client3: 6km from ObjectX // receives no data Now imagine that there are 8 clients at pos1 and 8 at pos2; all those clowns in their chariots are going to need info about ObjectX. It doesn't matter that another 8 clients at pos3 aren't going to get anything; and the performance is negligible to the extent that it's not even noticeable - at all. The fact remains that in a situation where you have to plan for your max clients (e.g. 24 clients in a capped Star Citizen instance) to ALWAYS be within range of EVERYTHING at ANY TIME, you haven't actually solved the problem with serialized variables or network traffic culling. No. All you've done is mitigated the issue to the extent that you are hoping that your clients remain spread out over time. And that is why these games have instances. Which are client-capped. And that is why, even in games with the best multiplayer, when you have a group of clients in generally the same place, doing all kinds of poo poo, there are performance issues from both rendering and networking aspects. So imagine a group of SC clients in their chariots doing combat with less clients within their "bubble". Then something (combat, trade run etc) forces them all to be within a 5km range of each other - and the radar has to be accurate etc. If it's not, guess what happens. Yes, you guessed it. They would not see objects on radar, they would go to a last known location and nothing be there etc. Trust me when I tell you this: The minute those devs enabled this, EVERYTHING is going to break. And here you were concerned that they can't do ramps or functional doors. Like I said, I have to believe that the devs KNOW what's going to happen and that it's going to break more things and then NOT solve the problem. That's why they keep kicking this crucial can down the road. ps: object container streaming is the same bullshit. ----------------
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D_Smart posted:Yeah, that's not how sarcastic joke development. On a dead gay comedy forum. On the internet. Works. There are rules. Rule #1 is that it has to be funny. 
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Quavers posted:While trying to find something else from INN's history of great journalism, I found this by Nehkara (  
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Well, it started with the mods like Toast not giving a poo poo about the community they represented and managed... 0_o
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Zzr posted:It's your people, so tell us. 
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Well, it started with the mods like Toast not giving a poo poo about the community they represented and managed... 
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The Titanic posted:I know CR isn't like a wizard of new ideas, but I can't help but feel like these aliens are terrible. It's like something the 1950s would make as an alien before they could do cooler suits for Alien xenomorphs. I think what I notice the most is how every race is painfully one-dimensional when you look at promotional art for them. Back in the Wing Commander days it was humans vs cats. Now its humans vs turtle/lizard people and birds and like one other race maybe? The art is usually like 1 character looking into the distance or menacing a sleeping woman with a dagger to her throat. At least with Star Trek or Star Wars you get other races that aren't always just "Oh, yeah, its fish people... IN SPAAAAAAACE!" But then again its also weird that a galaxy of 100 systems only has 5 or so space-faring species.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:I think what I notice the most is how every race is painfully one-dimensional when you look at promotional art for them. What I notice is the lingering feeling whenever I look at something Chris Roberts "created" that I'm looking at something familiar - like I've seen it before in a real sci-fi franchise.
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G0RF posted:
SQB's turn is exactly why I say none of the fallout is going to be as bad as people here fantasize about. Here's a guy who basically agrees with us 100% at this point, but he still will never get a refund, because that would be admitting he made a mistake. He'll continue to be corrosive and toxic to everyone around him while sliding on to the next game (looks like his poison of choice is PU Battlegrounds). I think that's the strategy of Star Citizen in 2018- ride out the declining interest as the playerbase quietly deserts, with no real climax or denoument. Assuming the lawsuits fizzle or drag on, CIG can afford to hang on until nobody cares anymore and then, at last, they'll turn out the lights. A good counterpoint to this would be them rolling out a new marketing push or any kind of base-building hype generator. I just don't see that happening.
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"The system to system information relay was just too complicated..." "Couldn't get the drone system working?" "We couldn't get the ramp it rolled off of working!"
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Virtual Captain posted:
And then they surely gave some compensation the people that bought the butt-plug data runner ship, right?
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ManofManyAliases posted:What is wrong with people? Ben was a lovely community manager who allowed toxicity to flourish through a combination of neglect and unprofessionalism that stemmed directly from CIG's emphasis on cronyism over competence.
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The Titanic posted:I know CR isn't like a wizard of new ideas, but I can't help but feel like these aliens are terrible. It's like something the 1950s would make as an alien before they could do cooler suits for Alien xenomorphs. Insufficiently Advanced Alien is part of the standard power fantasy of the republican space future genre of works, which is basically all that Chris Roberts knows how to write. In Republican Space Future, the author releases the repressed part of their id that continually tells them that 1950's norms for gender, politics, social programs, and the military were the golden age and that all we need to get back there is some kind of unifying outside threat. If only we could put down our differences they say, and remember our differences- the ones that make us stronger. In Republican Space Future, an authoritarian military has basically dominated humanity's politics. They had to because there is always an alien species, usually more than one, and the species is simultaneously the greatest threat to survival that mankind has ever known, and also hilariously inept and easily overcome with very simple tactics. This gives military people a great opportunity to be heroes, which of course leads naturally to whole generations of hard-boiled RSF men running everything forever. Life's funny that way I guess. Republican Space Future has forgotten that colored people exist. However, the aliens are suspiciously similar to one or more races that the RSF author views as "Exotic." Mysterious orientals or savage tribesmen, typically. RSF authors do not, under any circumstances, use aliens as a mirror to examine humanity- they are always racial stereotype punching bags, full stop. In RSF everyone is in the army, usually the marines. Even the air force has been rolled up into the marines. RSF authors idolize the marines- they have been positioned in the author's subconscious as a masculine ideal. The questionable utility of infantry in a space war does not occur to the RSF author. Because everyone is in the military, there is no need to deal with social issues arising from endless war or authoritarian regimes. Poverty? Never heard of it, the army provides. RSF has women in command positions as well, but mysteriously they always seem to become background narrators or plucky sidekicks when the action begins. Gender inequality? Do you see that lady over there, chained to the torture wall slightly behind Captain Gristlejaw? She's a lieutenant! That means RSF has got equality, you loving liberal. Sometimes really enlightened RSF authors will make a nod towards class war or inequality by including pirates and/or rebels. Pirates are grubby, live in cobbled together shacks, and always prey on the weak, further reinforcing the absolute need for military dominance everywhere at all times. Pirates are a credible threat to the military superpower despite basically being two inches from death at all times. Inevitably, piracy is where brown and sometimes even black people are allowed to appear. Occasionally it is acknowledged that pirate rebels may have a point, but then they betray Sergeant Meatfuck and all get wiped out in turn by the shifty backstabbing oriental aliens. The military in RSF is frequently corrupt, because even the RSF author has internalized by now that militaries are kind of lovely. But it's okay because the corrupt people inevitably cross Lieutenant Cocksmite and from that point on their fate is sealed. Either they too will be killed by shifty aliens or the good Lt. will be forced to "Render them combat-ineffective" at some critical moment in the plot. The author reasons that as long as underlings are willing to murder the figures of absolute authority above them and nobody ever faces repercussions, the whole social order can keep ticking merrily along. RSF technology does not make any sense. This is universal to all RSF stories. People can talk to each other in real-time regardless of lightyears distance, because the author doesn't want to think about comms lag. But ships always take arbitrarily long to fly around- is it days, or weeks? Some amount of time! The RSF author does not spend any time considering whether autonomous weapons would be more effective than shipping canned apes around to various parts of the galaxy. That is because the author wants to write about marines, on marine ships, and they don't really want to think about the ramifications of that. Artificial intelligence does not exist in RSF unless it is in the form of plucky sidekicks. AI's would probably be smarter than John Gunfist and anything smarter than the protagonist is going to turn out to be evil.
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Quavers posted:I'm not sure if that was already spotted, but long-time shill Stupid_Question_Bot has folded. From this 9 months ago: Star Citizer: they can keep my $1752 because I'm not a pussy bitch
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Sarsapariller posted:In RSF everyone is in the army, usually the marines. Even the air force has been rolled up into the marines. RSF authors idolize the marines- they have been positioned in the author's subconscious as a masculine ideal. The questionable utility of infantry in a space war does not occur to the RSF author. Because everyone is in the military, there is no need to deal with social issues arising from endless war or authoritarian regimes. Poverty? Never heard of it, the army provides. RSF has women in command positions as well, but mysteriously they always seem to become background narrators or plucky sidekicks when the action begins. Gender inequality? Do you see that lady over there, chained to the torture wall slightly behind Captain Gristlejaw? She's a lieutenant! That means RSF has got equality, you loving liberal. You forgot one key aspect of this: loving means absolutely nothing and it is totally normalized for Lance Corporal Atomcock to bang it out with any semi-willing (BUT VERY EQUAL) lady marine at any given point, and then bang it out with a different lady marine the next night because in the Republican Space Future loving your coworkers is taken about as seriously as the weekly rotating "clean the break room" schedule your boss made up and never enforced.
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Sarsapariller posted:In Republican Space Future, the author releases the repressed part of their id that continually tells them that 1950's norms for gender, politics, social programs, and the military were the golden age and that all we need to get back there is some kind of unifying outside threat. If only we could put down our differences they say, and remember our differences- the ones that make us stronger. Who is Robert Heinlein? Beet Wagon posted:You forgot one key aspect of this: loving means absolutely nothing and it is totally normalized for Lance Corporal Atomcock to bang it out with any semi-willing (BUT VERY EQUAL) lady marine at any given point, and then bang it out with a different lady marine the next night because in the Republican Space Future loving your coworkers is taken about as seriously as the weekly rotating "clean the break room" schedule your boss made up and never enforced. Yeah, definitely Heinlein. Same people who like Heinlein often admit to SM Stirling leanings, too. 'Marching Across Georgia' is an interesting alt-history romp, but the Drakken book series takes quite the right turn into a fantasy of a resurgent south transplanted to South Africa. Hav fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Feb 26, 2018 |
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G0RF posted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVvIKwwU8uE
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Hav posted:Who is Robert Heinlein? See Also:
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Beet Wagon posted:You forgot one key aspect of this: loving means absolutely nothing and it is totally normalized for Lance Corporal Atomcock to bang it out with any semi-willing (BUT VERY EQUAL) lady marine at any given point, and then bang it out with a different lady marine the next night because in the Republican Space Future loving your coworkers is taken about as seriously as the weekly rotating "clean the break room" schedule your boss made up and never enforced. This is a page ripped right out of Future Man. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeetE6uSmtI&t=46s
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Beet Wagon posted:See Also: I'm gonna take exception to the Scalzi one based on the context. After you haven't had sex for twenty years, you're going to fraternize the hell out of curved furniture. If anything he tries extremely heavily to subvert the genre. Joe Haldeman and Whatshisface Drake are the shining lights of the genre, but only Heinlein had the 'Ship's Tail'. Hav fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Feb 26, 2018 |
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Quavers posted:I'm not sure if that was already spotted, but long-time shill Stupid_Question_Bot has folded. From this 9 months ago: There is a story to be told about SQB... about a lot of things actually... when this show is all over. Let me just say that he was far from a shill and returned to a Community and Game he did not understand after a year of Absence.
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Sarsapariller posted:Insufficiently Advanced Alien is part of the standard power fantasy of the republican space future genre of works, which is basically all that Chris Roberts knows how to write. In Republican Space Future, the author releases the repressed part of their id that continually tells them that 1950's norms for gender, politics, social programs, and the military were the golden age and that all we need to get back there is some kind of unifying outside threat. If only we could put down our differences they say, and remember our differences- the ones that make us stronger. 
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Ben was a lovely community manager who allowed toxicity to flourish through a combination of neglect and unprofessionalism that stemmed directly from CIG's emphasis on cronyism over competence. 
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hot balls man no homo posted:how would all this in non-Speed of light communication even work? That would break immersion though. 
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hot balls man no homo posted:how would all this in non-Speed of light communication even work? You're ruining my immersion. CIG ban this filth.
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hot balls man no homo posted:how would all this in non-Speed of light communication even work? if you are found in violation your account is canceled and all your spaceship jpgs are slowly burned in ben's trashcan
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Lladre posted:Just wanted to say that I called it that Derek would paste in here his alt's If you think THAT'S cute.... 
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G0RF, you are a treasure.
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Meanwhile, over at that other hate Sub quote:In a thread about Star Citizen and Derek Smart on a german forum a user posted a link to an article of the german gamestar magazine from 2014. Quite remarkable is not only to read this article today, about four years later and comparing what was promised or was said to be right around the corner, and what is here today. But in particular a picture in the article that might be the perfectly condensed image of the relationship between the CIG and the big players in the gaming press in the early days in particular. The journalist of the magazine (left) literally went to bed with the Roberts brothers to get a glimpse of the newest, hottest Star Citizen software. This was and is the quality journalism in the gaming media offering its readers grounded and critical analysis of what is going on. Although as someone who teaches social science methodology including qualitative interview techniques I have to admit there might be a minor risk about losing the ability to critically reflect the positions of your informants ---------------- D_Smart fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Feb 26, 2018 |
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Hav posted:Who is Robert Heinlein? Heinlein is kind of the proto-RSF both because he was actually writing in the 1950's as opposed to pining for them, and because he goes full on crypto-fascist incest porn in some of his later stuff. Beet Wagon posted:See Also:
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