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The loving carpet in the pool area. The foundation has to just be black mold at this point. 8one6 fucked around with this message at 08:01 on Feb 21, 2018 |
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I'm just making a joke. Huge amounts of humidity from an indoor pool plus the fact that the carpet looks like it hasn't been chanced in 30+ years makes me think that whoever buys that house is going to need some hazmat suits to refresh that particular room. Edit: unless someone wants to sweep in and tell me I'm wrong and the late 70's/early 80's had some sort of pool friendly carpet and I'm overreacting. In which case it's still loving ugly.
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8one6 posted:I'm just making a joke. Huge amounts of humidity from an indoor pool plus the fact that the carpet looks like it hasn't been chanced in 30+ years makes me think that whoever buys that house is going to need some hazmat suits to refresh that particular room. The synthetic fiber decade did have outdoor rugs, and after enough time mold will start growing through a carpet. Considering that it's in decent condition and the amount of money on display in the rest of the house, I'd guess that it's something actually made for wet conditions.
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I'm not sure if this is the right thread, but I'm looking for some advice before potentially making a big mistake in getting a piece of furniture refinished. We recently inherited this credenza from my grandparents. I was able to figure out that it was designed by Renzo Rutili for the Johnson Furniture Company some time in the 50's. It's a really light color that doesn't match anything in our house and the gold caps on the feet could use a polish/buffing, but otherwise it's in great shape. Looking around on a bit, it looks like his stuff typically is listed anywhere from $1000 to several thousand dollars. Would we be potentially destroying any value the piece has by getting it professionally refinished? 
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I can tell you it’s not from any of the “big” names in furniture, but I don’t know what it’s street value would be at an auction or something. I’ve never heard of them. At any rate, get it refurbished if that’s what you want, and don’t worry about the theoretical loss of future sale value. Even if you lose out on a thousand bucks years down the road, it’s not worth keeping it in its present state if every time you look at it, you sigh and wish you refinished it how you like. Alternately, if you don’t like it, but it was given to you, and you feel guilty not using it, I’d sell it as-is now. There's no use trying to ?”make it work” if you fundamentally aren’t in love with it. E: You’re essentially trading potential future economic value with certain present aesthetic value. Unless we’re talking about like a one-of-a-kind piece from Noguchi’s private collection or something, I’d just refinish it how you like it. PRADA SLUT fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Feb 21, 2018 |
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brugroffil posted:I'm not sure if this is the right thread, but I'm looking for some advice before potentially making a big mistake in getting a piece of furniture refinished. If you are keeping it for use in your house, who cares? If you are selling it, don't touch ANYTHING about it and just get it sold off.
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Also bear in mind that you might not be able to get the price listed on various sites, or at least not if you want to sell in a reasonable amount of time. That's not to say it's worthless(especially since it seems to be in good shape & google suggests it's made of solid wood), but don't assume you'll get a few thousand dollars(or even $1000) from it before you try to sell it. That road leads to frustration, judging by relatives who've tried to sell high-quality older furniture and were surprised they couldn't command the same prices an antique dealer or website could. Assuming you even want to sell it, anyway. If you want to use it, refinish it to your liking instead of having it be that ugly piece of furniture you hate but won't refinish because it might hurt the resale value(which you're not even using, because you're not selling it).
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Thanks, yeah. We thought "well if it's worth something decent, maybe sell it and get something else for the same price or less that doesn't need refinishing?" Too much Antiques Roadshow "if only it had the original finish..." drilled into my head I guess. It's a cool piece and we like the style, so I'll probably just get it refinished to match our walnut colored table. Thanks for talking some sense!
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I don't like blonde wood either and I think it would look nicer in a walnut finish too. If it was something that's hot right now like Brasilia (I don't know why there seems to be a gently caress ton of it around me) I'd off load it.
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brugroffil posted:Thanks, yeah. We thought "well if it's worth something decent, maybe sell it and get something else for the same price or less that doesn't need refinishing?" This sentiment indicates to me that you shouldn't be keeping it regardless. If you truly loved it, you wouldn't care how much it was worth or what else you could have instead. If you had $1000 (or whatever) right now, would you seek out this exact piece again or buy something else? That's the question you should ask. Decisions weigh differently when we already own something, vs. when we're looking to acquire something, even though the outcome is the same (also why it's so hard for some people to get rid of furniture they don't like).
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PRADA SLUT posted:This sentiment indicates to me that you shouldn't be keeping it regardless. If you truly loved it, you wouldn't care how much it was worth or what else you could have instead. Nah we like the piece a lot we just didn't want to potentially "ruin" it by removing the original finish, but as a couple of other posters helpfully pointed out, it's maybe a nice piece but it's not from some master designer or anything. If we were buying new, we'd be looking for something in that same style. When we get it refinished, it'll be an awesome piece, easily the nicest piece of furniture in our house, and a family heirloom.
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A local architect group got official Frank Lloyd Wright design permission thingy. You guys might like to sperg over something fresh. https://activeart.jp/works
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peanut posted:A local architect group got official Frank Lloyd Wright design permission thingy. You guys might like to sperg over something fresh. I love how the FLW chair looks like an inverted Corbu. It’s so poetic. e: actually I’m not sure what that is, I don’t read Japanese. PRADA SLUT fucked around with this message at 01:06 on Feb 22, 2018 |
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Long story short, my girlfriend and I are getting a basement apartment built into an existing house. It's roughly 700 square feet, and we want to make use out of the space we have. Any tips on making it look open? We've both agreed we like a minimalist look, and that light colors will make the space appear larger. We're waiting on a floorplan approval from the architect, but in the meantime what are some resources we should be looking at? I know it's Reddit and all, but sometimes subreddits are good for general information, and I found r/amateurroomporn and I like some of the ideas. It's better than looking at Pinterest and seeing all the "tiny McMansion" style places. How about general shopping advice? To go somewhere and get a visual on types of things we can get, is Ikea a good place to go? I've only been once when I went to get a computer chair (Ikea Markus, which is amazing) and I know they have some examples of rooms set up.
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Pinterest (and Houzz) aren't too bad for inspirational photos, but you have to exercise that filtering skill where you can comfortably skim hundreds of photos to find one of interest.
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Ikea is fine if you like the style, but you are getting what you pay for as far as quality; treat is well or expect to replace it within a few years. But just going to an Ikea is probably a good idea because the display apartments are a good way to get an idea of how to make the most out of limited space. You're going to need spaces and pieces that serve multiple functions and some easy/well managed storage options.
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I like that ikea does original designs around a set price point, rather than making cheap copies of high-end pieces.
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PRADA SLUT posted:I have about 700 square feet and did that style of design. It’s fantastic once it’s done but it’s a lot harder to decorate for than you’d initially think. There will be a lot of stuff that's given to us, like a dresser here and there, someone's donating a bed for her daughter, etc. Much of that will be placeholders until we get something better, and I've got a creative mind where I think I can "decorate around" things that I assume won't be there for long. The Roomba-Ready advice is great, plus it'll give more spaces for the cats to hide and make sure her kid's toys have less of a chance of getting lost. there wolf posted:Ikea is fine if you like the style, but you are getting what you pay for as far as quality; treat is well or expect to replace it within a few years. But just going to an Ikea is probably a good idea because the display apartments are a good way to get an idea of how to make the most out of limited space. You're going to need spaces and pieces that serve multiple functions and some easy/well managed storage options. I know Ikea is a trap, but it's a pretty one. We're on a low budget so might need to go with Ikea stuff and just treat it well. I know she's ordered a few things from Ikea for her current living space and been happy with them and they've lasted years. We're both the visual-learner type so looking at photos is fine, but we need to actually look and move around things.
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LifeLynx posted:I know Ikea is a trap, but it's a pretty one. We're on a low budget so might need to go with Ikea stuff and just treat it well. I know she's ordered a few things from Ikea for her current living space and been happy with them and they've lasted years. We're both the visual-learner type so looking at photos is fine, but we need to actually look and move around things. If you’re truly set on minimalist, I have some advice from my own failings to decorate it over the years. This isn’t so much a design post but a philosophical one. A critical warning, is that minimalism isn’t a decor style specifically, in that you don’t do a “minimalist” decor like you might do a “country cabin” or “nautical bathroom” or whatever. You don’t claim a minimalist house by buying a slim couch or painting your walls white and having a single flower on the coffee table or whatever Pinterest tells you is correct. Minimalist is an adjective, like “minimalist modern”, or “minimalist industrial” (or “minimalist country cabin”, I suppose), and it’s just what happens when you have that lifestyle. The key aspect of doing this is that you limit things you own. You will never execute minimalist decor if you don’t do this, and trying to force it just ends up with some wonky-rear end design where people hide useless poo poo in IKEA cubes or whatever or pack the closet to the brim, as if somehow hiding everything is the “goal”. I won’t get into this much, but before you even start to look at designs, you need to ask yourself if your possessions are such that it’s even feasible to try. A good way to evaluate is to look at your closet. If it’s full of clothes that you never wear, you probably need to adjust your lifestyle before you step foot in a store. Not that clothes specifically matter, it’s just that people with closets like that often have other areas that make minimalism attempts fail, and the closet is an easy to way check yourself. Flipping this, think of Maximalism. It’s impossible to do if you simply don’t have enough things. It doesn’t matter how you paint or where you lay out your furniture, it just can’t be done. Similarly, minimalism can’t be done if you have too much. Anyway, philosophy aside, if you’re committed to this still, this is what I would do, but it’s a tough love approach that this thread will cry foul over and people will jump out of the woodwork calling for a UN humanitarian resolution for saying sitting on the floor for a few weeks is fine. 1) Don’t buy anything furniture or decor until you move, unpack, and live there for a month. If you need to, sit on the floor. Have plain walls. Eat at a counter. These things are perfectly fine (plus, depending on the kids age, they might think it’s fun). Not having things gives you an idea of what you actually want and need, versus what you just think you do. You’ll know pretty quickly which items are important and which aren’t. When I hear people talking about buying things for a place they haven’t lived in, or (minor items such as bath towels or a new can opener or whatever aside), it indicates they’re not in the right mindset for minimalist decor. Of course I went around to showrooms and sat in things and imagined what the layout of my new place would look like, but I never purchased anything until I was living there. 2) Be open to re-thinking what you “need”. Do you truly need that coffee table or end table? Do you actually need an oversized L-couch? When I moved into my current place, my original design was two chairs, a coffee table, and a couch. After a few months, I ended up with one chair and a loveseat, and thank god I did. Because I gave myself time to get used to the space and think about what pieces I was missing, I saved myself from a room I wouldn’t be happy with now. Plus, saved a lot of money. When you see pictures of minimalist decor executed well, we often notice the lack of things which otherwise people default assume they need. There are shelves that have one or two items on them instead of being packed to the brim with useless crap, there’s a single small end table for an entire room, there’s a loveseat instead of a couch. This is also why I avoid places like IKEA for minimal design “inspiration”. Everything is just packed. It’s executed well, but it’s not a minimalist style (which makes sense, since they’re trying to sell in volume). 3) Buy one major piece at a time. Don’t buy a coffee table with a couch. Each item you add to a room can fundamentally re-work how you think of the space. Maybe you buy a chair and then realize it makes the space look different, and that coffee table you thought you should get with it is no longer a good fit. Maybe you get a couch and, after using it, realize you don’t need some extra seats off to the side like you may have originally. Additionally, when you only focus on one item at a time, you can focus your money on single, higher-quality items you love, rather than buying cheap furniture in bulk. 4) Constantly re-evaluate what you own every time you buy something. Minimalist decor also falls apart when we fail to remove items when we buy new ones. I’ve seen people buy a new couch because their old one needs replacing, but then can’t bear getting rid of the old one, so they move it to another room or something in this sort of poo poo-pushing cycle. Most people say the “one-in-one-out” rule, but so long as you maintain an honest dialogue with yourself as to what’s items make you happy, that’s what matters. At any rate, you’re in a good spot because you’re moving, so you have the opportunity to take an introspective look at what you have and what direction you I want to go with your lifestyle, and your decor will reflect those decisions. If you’re getting some furniture already, I see no reason to buy anything now, though, I would refuse anything you don’t truly like even if it’s being gifted to you. Don’t take anything you aren’t in love with just because you don’t have it. Parents have this bad habit of giving their kids things they think they “need”, regardless of what the decorative intent is. My parents still think there’s something wrong because I down own a coffee table, even though I can geometrically fit one in the room. It’s hard for some people to understand refusing excess as a lifestyle and that open space isn’t just “underutilized room to put poo poo”. Move what you like in, evaluate your place, and go from there. If, after the above, you don’t think minimalism is right for you, you can still do some sort of light, Scandinavian-style place, but the details will be different. I love minimalism, I encourage minimalist-curious people to give it a shot, but it’s a lot more work than just painting the walls white and buying a “Roomba-compatible” couch. It’s definitely been harder to do than when I did the IKEA-sweep in my 20’s. E: this article is fairly good, though no aggressive enough with the importance of paring things down: http://www.mydomaine.com/minimalist-interior-design/ PRADA SLUT fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Feb 26, 2018 |
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LifeLynx posted:I know Ikea is a trap, but it's a pretty one. We're on a low budget so might need to go with Ikea stuff and just treat it well. I know she's ordered a few things from Ikea for her current living space and been happy with them and they've lasted years. We're both the visual-learner type so looking at photos is fine, but we need to actually look and move around things. I've had pieces from Ikea for 9-10 years now that are still in great shape and have survived moving 4-5 times. I've had a few pieces that started falling apart after about 2-3 years, but I paid so little for them that I definitely got my moneys worth out of them. My tastes have also changed over the years so it's been nice to not feel bad about replacing items.
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Holy poo poo. Please dont make your children sit on the floor and eat at the counter. “We don’t like our new house, mummy and daddy make us sit in the floor and eat standing up” Leads to concerned middle aged ladies taking them away.
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learnincurve posted:Holy poo poo. Please dont make your children sit on the floor and eat at the counter. “We don’t like our new house, mummy and daddy make us sit in the floor and eat standing up” Leads to concerned middle aged ladies taking them away. UN humanitarian resolution inc Once, when my parents were moving into a new place, we ate dinner sitting on the floor together for two weeks while the things moved. It’s scarred me for life. I’m surprised they weren’t hauled off to the gulags for such an egregious child safety violation.
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Lol here in Japan families sit on the floor and eat at a coffee table. It's only a problem if you do it in a lovely or unsafe way, or keep making promises that give high expectations and don't follow through.
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Prada you seem child free, which is fine and dandy, but please please just don’t lecture parents on what is or isn’t acceptable ducks. Today in both America, Canada, and Europe, deliberately not having appropriate furniture is “cause for concern” When I was a kid we had single glazing and I once woke up with my face frozen to the window. Let’s just assume that these people will be including chairs in their minimalist lifestyle shall we. learnincurve fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Feb 27, 2018 |
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Furthermore, we also slept in sleeping bags next to the fireplace like it was an indoor camping trip. I thought it was fun, but apparently I was just wrong and should have called child protective services on my parents. I can’t believe what an abusive childhood I survived. I wonder how Japan deals with these atrocities.
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By spending all their time at work or locked in their bedrooms, lol. We even share bath water!! Is the basement apartment inside an in-law's house? They'll probably have loads of furniture to "borrow" until you find something "just right." peanut fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Feb 27, 2018 |
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Hey I didn’t make the rules. Let me tell you about the happy board. In a lot of schools pretty much anywhere in the developed world (I assume there was a popular book) it is a thing where when a child comes in in the morning they put a face with their mood on it next to their name. Too many sad faces and nice kindly people sit them down and ask them why they are sad all the time. There is also a list that gets ticked on home visits and FYI it happens with custody cases as well. “Appropriate place to eat” and “appropriate place to sit” are right at the top of the list. It’s absolutely nuts but here we are.
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Nobody gets taken away for that. Like kids barely get taken away after they have broken bones. At absolute most it's a weird intrusive "maybe you should move up the chair timeline" conversation. It's still kind of ridiculous, but not on the level you're saying.
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Just posting to say that we got multiple quality Prada Slut posts in a row and all you folks can think to do is the exact thing they said you would.
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I made multiple moves as a kid and went without various bits of furniture for a week or so without getting all hosed in the head. I remember it was actually kinda fun and one time we made a box fort out of the box from the washing machine or something  we also put up a tent in the living room and popped Jiffy Pop on a camp stove. Kids love stuff like that as long as you make it a little adventure for them.
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peanut posted:Lol here in Japan families sit on the floor and eat at a coffee table. It's only a problem if you do it in a lovely or unsafe way, or keep making promises that give high expectations and don't follow through. Coffee tables are a horror vacui indulgence. Prada, you have this weird tendency to acknowledge that your esthetic is the product of a lifestyle that isn't for everyone, and then turn around and act like the difficult parts of it aren't. Some furniture has more value in it's utility than it's style; maybe I'd wait a week or two for my couch to meet me across the country, but if it's going to be months then I'm getting a right-now couch until the right one comes along. I think a Prada-challenge where people follow your intensive steps to home design would be really cool, but it's not a one-size-fits-all deal, especially for people who have to navigate multiple people's needs and desires. Especially tiny people who wreck your poo poo.
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there wolf posted:Coffee tables are a horror vacui indulgence. If you're the kind of person that cannot live without having a piece of furniture for a few weeks, you're probably not the kind of person cut out for opting a minimalist style either. The whole point of waiting to buy pieces isn't because there's some minimalist code of honor that binds you to wait precisely thirty-one calendar days before stepping foot in a store. What it does is create introspection on the new, blank space you're in, and gives you room to evaluate which items are essential (and their specifics), and which are superfluous. This waiting period leads to being more selective (and happier) with each purchase. It also prevents this "chain buying" items without really considering them. If you're used to living a life of excess, it takes some time to get used to the idea of owning less, and it's weird transition for a lot of people. There's nothing wrong if that's not your lifestyle, but as I mentioned before, if you adore the minimalist aesthetic, it's going to take a lot more work than just picking out the right place to sit. Minimalist designs don't work because people cleverly hid their junk, they work because those people don't have waste in the first place. Sure, people need different things, and that's fine. The whole point it to buy what you need because you've considered what you're using it for and removing items that aren't contributing to having a more serene and happy dwelling.
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peanut posted:Post the floorplan asap! We're waiting for the contractor to get back to us with one, which should be this week? Maybe early next week, I lost track and I'm tired. learnincurve posted:Holy poo poo. Please dont make your children sit on the floor and eat at the counter. “We don’t like our new house, mummy and daddy make us sit in the floor and eat standing up” Leads to concerned middle aged ladies taking them away. She's cute, and "Let's pretend to have a picnic on the floor!" would go over really well. But she's also precious and would want to do it even after we got a table and chairs. She lives with her grandparents now where the rules are already lax, so need to set some ground rules like "Sit at the table and don't get up to play during dinner, yes, even if the table doesn't fit the decor of the room, what, are they teaching you feng shui in first grade now?" as soon as possible.
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In one ear, out the other. You should go pick up that Konmari book as well, pay special attention to the parts where the author explains how being an obtuse, judgemental dick about people's relationships with stuff made people really dislike her.
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LifeLynx posted:She's cute, and "Let's pretend to have a picnic on the floor!" would go over really well. But she's also precious and would want to do it even after we got a table and chairs. She lives with her grandparents now where the rules are already lax, so need to set some ground rules like "Sit at the table and don't get up to play during dinner, yes, even if the table doesn't fit the decor of the room, what, are they teaching you feng shui in first grade now?" as soon as possible. Take some time to consider specific details about this theoretical table, such as shape and size and what you hope to get out it (I assume it’s more of a “gathering” table due to space, rather than strictly eating). I’m a fan of small, round tables, as they give more of an “egalitarian” seating arrangement (especially with a single post, like the Saarinens), and the smaller size feels more intimate. They also seat odd numbers better. Square tables delineate space “assigned” to each person, which may or may not be what you’re after, especially if the legs are near the edges. They also work better if pressed to a wall. I’d decide consider the above first, since the shape and color and whatever else is going to be more flexible and dependent on the exact room and what else you intend on doing. Get your functional geometry down first. PRADA SLUT fucked around with this message at 07:50 on Feb 27, 2018 |
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