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The Gate posted:Does the dwarf have a single melee weapon with light attacks that can hit more than like, 1-2 enemies? It's frustrating as gently caress trying to deal with a horde as him, mostly just sitting there blocking while other characters actually kill things. Trying to heavy attack just gets you poked. Meanwhile as the elf or holy poo poo man you can clear an entire horde in seconds by spamming light attacks while barely even needing to dodge or block. Or is this the realm of SLAYER MODE only for him? 1h Mace, pick both do this. I still say the Warhammer (for both baradin and kruber) is the premier horde sweepers, but there's a cadence to using the charged attacks that you have to get use to. First thing to note is that you don't have to hold down the mouse for the full duration, there is no extra damage for charging longer, it's just there to help time your swing. Once you charge enough to cock the weapon back you're going to do a charged attack. Secondly, after you do your charged attack you need to immediately back or side dodge to escape whomever you didn't hit and to give you space to start cocking the next charged attack. Thirdly, while you can reliably stun pretty much everyone but chaos warriors and bosses, there will be times where you aren't going to have enough time to swing without getting hit, so use your blocks. You can block cancel even if you are still in a swing animation so if your timing is off you can de-commit by blocking. Bardain's greataxe behaves very similarly, it's killier on the charged attack but it won't hit as many things. The 1h mace (without shield) is going to handle a lot like Kerellian's 1h sword. You get 2-3 attacks of a wide sweep that'll hit ~4 guys and will also knock around slave and clanrats, and your charge attack is a big double handed overhead swing that's good for pasting stormvermin and chaos warriors. The final hit of the combo is an overhead swing that hits a single enemy but also penetrates armor for reasonably good damage. The pick will be a lot slower but it stacks up similar to Kruber's executioner sword or Kerellian's greatsword. It's slow but it's surprisingly killy, and uncharged attacks will penetrate armor on storms (it won't do a lot of damage, but it's usually enough to knock them out of animations), the pick has one of the strongest charged attacks in the game and is the only example of charging longer to do more damage. The fully charged overhead swing does an absolute shitload of damage and will even maul bosses pretty badly. The fully charged pick overhead + strength potion will actually probably 2 or three shot a chaos warrior from full health.
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The Gate posted:I can't use the bow on him because of the lack of accuracy. Nothing like missing two headshots on a special at medium range thanks to RNG on the accuracy, or watching an arrow fly juuuuust over the heads of an entire horde for the same reason. He's good up close with it, but at that range I'd rather use the repeater instead and not have to worry about aiming as precisely. The really weird thing about that lumberjack longbow is the way it gets less accurate when aimed, unlike every other bow (and ranged weapon in general) It hits like a freight train but it’s a hard weapon to like, between the inverse accuracy, slowing you down when shooting or stopping you entirely when aiming, and the massive length of time after shooting that it prevents you from switching to melee to block. It grew on me fast but its disadvantages are not always something you can work around
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Feb 27, 2018 18:03
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Is there a discord where we can group up with other goons for the release tomorrow?
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Feb 27, 2018 18:10
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we need 5 separate discords, IMHO
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Agrajag posted:Is there a discord where we can group up with other goons for the release tomorrow?
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Feb 27, 2018 18:25
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Some rat/chaos killing hero should remake the OP and put the Discord in it. 
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Feb 27, 2018 18:26
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Night10194 posted:It's actually more accurate if you snap the shot right before he zooms in. Yeah, but even so it's still very inaccurate even if you get it right before the zoom. It's super counterintuitive on top of being mediocre. All I ended up using it for was mass firing into crowds and closer special kills. DeathSandwich posted:1h Mace, pick both do this. Good to know, I had the mace and shield and it felt really slow and didn't seem to hit enough. I played V1 a good bit (but not tons) so I mostly have the rhythm down. The warhammer for him just seems to swing for ages before it actually starts to hit, I canceled so many attacks on accident with the mace halfway across the screen and still not landing hits.
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Feb 27, 2018 18:40
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does the whatever tomorrow run until launch?
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Feb 27, 2018 18:51
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eonwe posted:we need 5 separate discords, IMHO and a mumble in a pear tree.... A 50S RAYGUN posted:does the whatever tomorrow run until launch? Consider it a head start.
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Feb 27, 2018 18:52
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There any point installing the closed test if I just got this, or should I just be waiting for the advance release tomorrow?
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I’d just wait since it will probably be a different client to download.
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Feb 27, 2018 18:58
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as far as i know the closed test ended last night. the open test for people who preordered starts tomorrow. we currently live in the void between the two
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Feb 27, 2018 18:59
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I only tried Kruber Im sure they are all fun, but any recommendations for someone who hardly has played Vermintide period?
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Feb 27, 2018 19:04
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eonwe posted:I only tried Kruber Play the elf.
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Feb 27, 2018 19:09
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The Gate posted:Yeah, but even so it's still very inaccurate even if you get it right before the zoom. It's super counterintuitive on top of being mediocre. All I ended up using it for was mass firing into crowds and closer special kills. IIRC the single mace swings a touch faster than mace and shield, or at least it did in game 1. It's pretty comparable to Kerillian's single sword if you've used it. If you didn't like charging the Warhammer for the wide swings, give the pick a shot because it has a wide swipe for its uncharged attack and the supercharge is a loving wrecking ball on stormvermin and rothelms. It was seriously one of the best weapons in the first game for a reason.
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Feb 27, 2018 19:12
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eonwe posted:I only tried Kruber You started on top, Kruber über alles.
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Mordja posted:You started on top, Kruber über alles. Kruber's the hero the Empire needs. They're all good, though. Everyone is fun to play.
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Feb 27, 2018 19:18
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eonwe posted:I only tried Kruber all of em are fun
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eonwe posted:I only tried Kruber None of the characters are inacessable. Everyone starts with good middle of the road easy to use weapons and can end rats with impunity. Everyone has the same base health and run speed so it's not like the dwarf is inherently slower or the elf more frail. The flavor is going to come from the career passives/actives and at high level everyone has the capacity to be silly broken good (slayer bardain and shade kerellian can 3-4 shot bosses under the right circumstances, Huntsman Kruber and BH Saltspyre can get obnoxiously big headshots, see that Sienna end of mission .jpg digirat posted a couple pages back). There will be some mechanics to get use to (for example, not overheating and blowing yourself up as the wizard or dwarf) but it's not like you're going to be inherently bad at someone just because they have a high skill ceiling or anything. You can pick up and play anyone and make jolly fun bashing rats. Edit: I'll start working on a Vermintide 2 OP if nobody else wants to step up. DeathSandwich fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Feb 27, 2018 |
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Ignite Memories posted:So am I the only one who does not see special effects for sienna's attacks, or for chaos sorcerers teleporting? I'm pretty sure the effects aren't done. I hope they aren't, cause they don't look super good on the highest, they're worse than V1
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Feb 27, 2018 19:48
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Playing the dwarf in tall grass is either very immersive or very annoying.
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DeathSandwich posted:
Pm me if you need headers or pictures fixed if you do set it up
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Feb 27, 2018 20:28
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I was about to ask if we were going to get a new thread.
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Fat Samurai posted:Playing the dwarf in tall grass is either very immersive or very annoying. its both
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Grondoth posted:I'm pretty sure the effects aren't done. Yeah pretty sure the wizard particles are still WIP, like there's a super detailed and beautiful burst of sparks that fly away when the repeater handgun is fired but I flat-out don't see the wizard making particles from some staves at all--I just see the wizard making a hadouken gesture and nearby rats suddenly burst into flames I wouldn't really mind if that never changed though
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I would do it but I'd wait until March 8th personally.
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Just don’t have me do it. I’m the kiss of death for game OPs (see Destiny 2/Marvel Heroes/Future Fight). I’m gonna sit this OP out. Glad to see somebody else jumped on it.
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I only found out from this thread that discharging heat damaged Sienna. I thought the heat being above that first bar was what was damaging me so I was manually discharging constantly. I am good at vidyas
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Agrajag posted:all of em are fun Sienna was the only one I didn't enjoy in the first game. I mostly played Kruber though with a shield. My buddy played Baradin with a shield, and we'd take turns standing at choke points while our friends playing Sienna and Kerillian would murder stuff
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Lunethex posted:I would do it but I'd wait until March 8th personally. This. People are still collectively figuring out how to play the game before we can hold forth on how to best play the game. Part of the problem is the game doesn't exist yet in a meaningful sense at least for another day.
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Fat Samurai posted:Playing the dwarf in tall grass is either very immersive or very annoying. I wish he was shorter in comparison to the other characters because it would be endlessly amusing to me while playing him, but it'd probably cause some issues with melee headshots.
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What I've seen so far does make me pretty excited for ratfighting, though. Could do with more rats and a few less football boys though. I know the numbers are about equal but since they take longer to kill, the football fans stand out.
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I was thinking about this and maybe vermintide 3 if they add a new team then. But in either case, I think maps being 100% one faction and known before hand would probably make choosing weapons better.
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Orv posted:I wish he was shorter in comparison to the other characters because it would be endlessly amusing to me while playing him, but it'd probably cause some issues with melee headshots. His viewpoint is shorter and I’ve actually always preferred the axe on saltz over bardin just because it’s so much easier to hit the head. Haven’t used him hardly at all in the new game but I imagine it’s even more noticeable with chaos.
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Digirat posted:His viewpoint is shorter and I’ve actually always preferred the axe on saltz over bardin just because it’s so much easier to hit the head. Haven’t used him hardly at all in the new game but I imagine it’s even more noticeable with chaos. It is. Headshotting the big great weapon guys or Warriors as Bardin is harder than as Saltzpyre.
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Digirat posted:His viewpoint is shorter and I’ve actually always preferred the axe on saltz over bardin just because it’s so much easier to hit the head. Haven’t used him hardly at all in the new game but I imagine it’s even more noticeable with chaos. I mean shorter than he is even now. He comes up to like, chest height on everyone else, and around belly on the Chaos Warriors. It'd just be really funny to me to be a tiny crotch and ankle destroying whirlwind even more than he already is.
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All the melee weapons I tested except for the executioner sword had massively nerfed headshot damage compared to the first game, so unless bardin has a weapon with an actually good headshot modifier I might just stop aiming for the head with him entirely and become the terror of shins everywhere, especially because you can now cut off both legs with one swing which is amazing
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BERGfu posted:Pm me if you need headers or pictures fixed if you do set it up What are you going to play tomorrow???
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