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Colbert's been pretty fugazi for a while if you haven't noticed The hope was, for me at least, that he'd make the late night format more "Colbert" but the reverse happened and Colbert became more late night. It makes me appreciate Conan, which I never did previously just cuz I can barely tolerate late night poo poo (throw it away with the baby boomers imo) unless ur counting like...Eric Andre. But watching Conan now I'm just impressed how everything about his show is better and funnier in every way (while still remaining just as political). That may not be fair to Colbert since Conan has had years to perfect his poo poo but I can't say I've got the time and patience to wait around for Colbert. His trump jokes might be some of the laziest on the planet. I'm always asking myself, thinking back to the beautiful old days of the Colbert Report...did Colbert change, or did I?
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Iron Crowned posted:Is it a comedy, or a drama? Definitely more of a drama. There are funny parts, but they’re not the focus. I believe every episode will be an hour. I thought it was a 30 minute show until I started watching too. That would probably be better. I’m not sure I’ll make it past episode 3 but I really want to because I love all the central trio a lot
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Feb 27, 2018 19:31
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Punkin Spunkin posted:I'm always asking myself, thinking back to the beautiful old days of the Colbert Report...did Colbert change, or did I? I would watch a show where it's just Colbert sitting there and talking, being himself for 30 minutes a night. No writing team or network interference. I'm glad he's got the job he has and that he's making good money and hopefully having a great time, but it's not for me.
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Feb 27, 2018 19:34
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Shageletic posted:So is that a show a one season wonder? Yes, god yes. Don't watch season 2.
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Feb 27, 2018 19:42
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EL BROMANCE posted:I would watch a show where it's just Colbert sitting there and talking, being himself for 30 minutes a night. No writing team or network interference. We can't have Craig Ferguson back no matter how much we dream.
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Feb 27, 2018 21:22
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I haven’t watched much Conan after he settled in at TBS, but he never struck me as particularly political. Of course, that may have changed as Colbert’s Late Show has changed from what I perceived as an inoffensive nothingburger to quite light politically entertaining. He still has a fair number of “general audience” jokes though.
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Feb 27, 2018 21:34
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He makes his politics known by filming special episodes in Mexico and Haiti after Trump called them lovely countries.
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Feb 27, 2018 21:43
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maybe I just find Colbert's late night political humor that weak compared to what he used to be. it's mostly just lazy Trump zingers, which Conan also does but with a better writing staff. and yeah the overseas bits were fun plus I appreciate any late night that can still randomly pull out Andy Daly (BRIIING BACK CROSSBAAAAALLS)
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Feb 27, 2018 21:43
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Colbert lost a lot of his edge when he moved from Comedy Central to CBS. Part of it is that the CBS audience is older and more conservative but I think a big part of it is also that Colbert dropped the persona and is hosting as "himself", meaning he can't make a lot of the jokes he used to make on the Report and has to play a less interesting straightman character. I think the thing that really made Colbert Report the best out of the comedy news shows was that he was playing a fictional character so the show didn't just devolve into him making zingers and going "whaaaa???" at the camera like Jon Stewart.
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Feb 27, 2018 22:02
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Well, he was bombing terribly until he started going after Trump, and now he's #1 I think.
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Feb 27, 2018 22:03
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one day there will be a reckoning between the fans of the UK and american Offices and I will gladly die shouting "TIM WAS BETTER" while the swarms of Will They or Won't They Generic American sitcom barbarians swarm my corpse
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Feb 27, 2018 22:51
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Ferguson was the best late night talk show, I will miss him forever and always.
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Feb 27, 2018 22:52
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Rhyno posted:Ferguson was the best late night talk show, I will miss him forever and always. His daily SiriusXM show gets posted on Reddit like an hour or two after it ends every night.
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Feb 27, 2018 23:53
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Timby posted:His daily SiriusXM show gets posted on Reddit like an hour or two after it ends every night. It ain't the same if I can't see him stare at pretty ladies' legs.
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Feb 27, 2018 23:55
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The best late night host is Conan when he has Norm as his guest. If its anyone else he is still ok, but drat if Norm doesn't put out his best stuff with Conan.
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Feb 28, 2018 01:15
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It's Bill Burr for me. When they get together it's like a Boston charmfest. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9YL04v-J5U
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Feb 28, 2018 01:25
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Anytime Paul Rudd or Tim Olyphant are on Conan it's gold.
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Feb 28, 2018 02:41
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swickles posted:The best late night host is Conan when he has Norm as his guest. If its anyone else he is still ok, but drat if Norm doesn't put out his best stuff with Conan. My man speaks the truth. Have you ever seen a host lose their poo poo so loving hard because of how funny a guest is at the expense of another? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL0WayC7jW0 Historically perfect comedy.
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Feb 28, 2018 02:46
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Rhyno posted:My man speaks the truth. Have you ever seen a host lose their poo poo so loving hard because of how funny a guest is at the expense of another? Saw the thumbnail and immediately knew which I've it was.
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Feb 28, 2018 02:57
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Just watched the Jennifer Lawrence interview on Colbert.
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Josh Lyman posted:Just watched the Jennifer Lawrence interview on Colbert. Watch the follow up interview with Patton Oswalt too. Its hard to find, but my favorite Norm/Conan moment was when he came on the NBC show after it was announced Conan was getting kicked out. He brought this giant Congratulations basket with him that he was saving for being on the show the first .
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Feb 28, 2018 03:53
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The comparison between Conan and Colbert aren’t really meaningful, I think. Conan’s pretty mediocre at interviews and does his best bits in remotes. Colbert doesn’t do remotes at all. It’s more apt to compare Colbert to Ferguson, and that’s where he really pales. I watched an interview between him and Ricky Gervais where he tries to interrogate why Gervais is an atheist. Colbert clearly has some smarts about him, but like nearly all late night interviews, the whole segment felt scripted and planned. They couldn’t shake off the inauthenticity from what should have been a great interview. I love Ferguson enough to acknowledge that his unprepped interviews don’t always turn in an interesting way, but it never fails to feel authentic. That’s something the Colbert show, not to mention all the other ones, fails to do. Colbert’s a really interesting guy with clever things to say, I wish they’d let him loose and do something less scripted.
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Feb 28, 2018 04:08
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Mu Zeta posted:It's Bill Burr for me. When they get together it's like a Boston charmfest. Me too, Bill Burr is the funniest man alive.
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Feb 28, 2018 04:14
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Vegetable posted:The comparison between Conan and Colbert aren’t really meaningful, I think. Conan’s pretty mediocre at interviews and does his best bits in remotes. Colbert doesn’t do remotes at all. At any rate, he's a Sunday school teacher so naturally an interview with Ricky Gervais about atheism isn't going to be great.
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Feb 28, 2018 04:16
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iZombie off to a suitably insane start. Part of me wishes they dump the brain of the week / murder stuff entirely (there tends to come a point every season where it feels like a distraction rather than an attraction) but it's still a very strong show.
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Feb 28, 2018 05:16
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Has anyone seen Before We Vanish? It looked cool but I'm not sure where to find it legally and am not sure if it's worth settling for some low-quality pirated version with voices / subtitles that aren't synced to conversations and other awfulness.
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Feb 28, 2018 05:38
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Holy poo poo Atlanta S1E7 is loving gold. I watched and episode or two when it first aired but it didn't grab me. Now I'm binging through it on Hulu and it's incredible.
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Rhyno posted:My man speaks the truth. Have you ever seen a host lose their poo poo so loving hard because of how funny a guest is at the expense of another? This one I think is underrated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE6QzDrT_x8
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Feb 28, 2018 10:48
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you guys weren't kidding about Waco holy poo poo Taylor Kitsch as Budget Sam Rockwell as David "The Lamb" Koresh is killing it
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Inspector 34 posted:Holy poo poo Atlanta S1E7 is loving gold. I watched and episode or two when it first aired but it didn't grab me. Now I'm binging through it on Hulu and it's incredible. I watched that at the time and rewatched it recently, and nah, still not impressed with it. I admire a lot of the structural stuff that it's been praised for, though a lot of the references passed me by. I really like the series generally. The political stuff in the episode was hosed though, and it completely sucks the power out of the episode.
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Anyone else seen that Unabomber series from the Discovery channel? Been on Netflix. It's not *really* a great series - it has one very good lead performance by Paul Bettany playing Kaczynski, and a pretty drat mediocre performance from Sam Worthington as the guy who compiles the linguistic evidence that lead to his capture. Oh, and Mark Duplass (IMO one of the best actors/writers/directors/awesome people working in film period) steals all his scenes as Ted's brother, David, and creates more humanity and empathy for that character in like a combined 25 minutes of screentime than the rest of the cast does over half an hour. Worthington is so awful. It did reveal some really fascinating things about the UNABOM case about which I was unaware. Like the fact that when Ted Kaczynski went to Harvard at age 16 on a scholarship, he was used as a subject in some unspeakably cruel experimental research being done by a professor there, partially at the behest of government agents. This was - you guessed it - a part of the CIA's MKULTRA program - in this case it was primarily about learning how to effectively break a person psychologically, based on what I read. God knows how accurate the dramatization was (the reality was probably WORSE and more traumatic even if it didn't look as outwardly scary as they made it seem on the show). I'm not a raving conspiracy theorist, but it's fascinating to me. edit: This *fascinating* article from June 2000 published in The Atlantic lays this all out very accurately and concisely. In the 18 years since this article came out it was confirmed that Murray's research was a part of the MKULTRA program: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/06/harvard-and-the-making-of-the-unabomber/378239/ I really did not remotely expect one thing (Unabomber) to have anything to do with the other (MKULTRA) in the least when I started watching this show. 
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Feb 28, 2018 14:38
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MiddleOne posted:Yes, god yes. Don't watch season 2. a-ok. So Spectrum is offering to cut my bill considerably for a plan that has me only choosing 10 cable channels. If you can choose 10 what would they be? My roommate already wants ESPN, AMC, and TNT.
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Shageletic posted:a-ok. FX, USA, Syfy, HGTV.
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Couple of items about netflix I'm currently on one of my biennial "I forget how much I hate anime and try to get into a couple of series" jags and I watched some of Devilman Crybaby and it is bonkers for sure. I find it odd that they are saying they are ready to "commit to anime" given how much anime is on the service already. And Hulu has a ridiculous amount as well. Anyway I'm watching Berserk on youtube because neither has it.  Dear lord
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Feb 28, 2018 16:38
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Commit to anime, but Attack on Titan season 2 is no where to be found, ehhhh Netflix?!
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Feb 28, 2018 16:42
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zoux posted:
Hell yeah, keep me employed
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Feb 28, 2018 16:45
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zoux posted:I'm currently on one of my biennial "I forget how much I hate anime and try to get into a couple of series" jags and I watched some of Devilman Crybaby and it is bonkers for sure.[/url] I occasionally do the same when I hear something with a cool premise, then watch it and realize that it's still anime and there's always a way to ruin a cool premise. Though, and I know how cliche and oft-repeated this is, I started watching Cowboy Bebop again and that poo poo is still legit. I thought it was going to be awful since I hadn't seen it since I was a teenager but aside from the occasional melodramatic anime-ism, it's mostly just a drat fun, melancholy-tinged space Western with some great hard sci-fi tech. Also, watching it as an adult it's astounding to see how much impact The Long Goodbye had on the characters, tone, and pace.
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feedmyleg posted:I occasionally do the same when I hear something with a cool premise, then watch it and realize that it's still anime and there's always a way to ruin a cool premise. Yeah, I love the high concepts and animation of anime but the dialog and pacing just murder it for me. Devilman Crybaby reminds me though of when you'd catch some snippet of anime somewhere in the mid 90's and you couldn't believe how violent and explicit it was, and so far I like it ok. One trick I've found is to watch dubs over subs when available, it seems that dubs tend to be more colloquialized and idiomized for Western audiences so the dialog doesn't sound so unnatural. But I'd love it if I could find a series where it wasn't laden with clunky exposition and characters stating exactly what they are feeling and thinking at all times. I was watching some Hunter x Hunter and the amount of time they spend detailing the exact mechanics of the magic system is grating.
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Been visiting my parents and my dad has been watching ST:TNG eps and I’m seeing this show for the first time Holy poo poo!! It’s so boring and bad!!! early season 6 before some dork comes in to say how the first season sucks
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Escobarbarian posted:Been visiting my parents and my dad has been watching ST:TNG eps and I’m seeing this show for the first time Look! We have found the worst opinion ever in all of history.
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