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Ciaphas posted:Those 420 Smoke Erry Day guys seem hard to use, the jet's constraints on attacking and the artillery guy's awkward smoke placement leaves me confounded. Mostly you don't use the artillery's smoke, you just shoot chumps with him. On the back row, he can strip vek away from the other side of buildings. But in a pinch you can walk up to someone and then shoot away from them to stop an attack, and if you can get your Artillery BETWEEN two units, you're golden. Eventually he's doing four damage a shot, and at that point it almost doesn't matter what added effects you have. I dunno what's hard to use about the jet, he works great, turns things off, and is generally amazing. Upgrade him to extra range to make him even better. The pusher's super awful though, especially if you accidentally kept some rando +3 grid def generic pilot instead of Harold Schmidt at the end of a mission.  e: Schmiiiiidt! Come back! 
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judo team is great when you can move dudes around to kill each other, but that often isn't possible and they kind of suck at killing anything otherwise. maybe the problem is that i'm playing on easy, though. gimme the GOD DAMN candy fucked around with this message at 10:23 on Feb 28, 2018 |
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Feb 28, 2018 10:17
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Mystic Mongol posted:Mostly you don't use the artillery's smoke, you just shoot chumps with him. On the back row, he can strip vek away from the other side of buildings. I had that guy on the... uh, the mech whose default weapon is to dash, ram for 2 damage and knock back, and take 1 self damage, the synergy was fascinatingly good Plus it amuses me that a guy can be so loving furious while wrenching that all nearby units stagger back in horror 
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Feb 28, 2018 10:19
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Oovee posted:rift wanker Hahahah. I like the game, I really do. I just feel like the lack of "story" is going to hinder how many times I replay the game. Each go through of FTL was an adventure and I know it isn't fair to compare the two games, but that's what I have going around in my head right now. I feel like the fire squad has the potential to be phenomenal, but I'll be hosed if I can figure them out. The wee "swap-bot" seems like the key, but I'll be playing with the other squad for now. Might try and do a run with all Vape-Jets.
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Feb 28, 2018 10:45
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What the hell, the deployed robots are enemies? What sense does that make? Why am I even protecting these stupid robot factories?
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Feb 28, 2018 10:57
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Argue posted:What the hell, the deployed robots are enemies? What sense does that make? Why am I even protecting these stupid robot factories? They're misguided sentient robots. They matter as much as humans do, you monster.
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Feb 28, 2018 11:00
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I've got a story for you 'beat it first try' losers.  . I played a few games on normal and managed to reliably get to the second island. After that I switched to easy and beat the first and second island, and then died with 2 turns left on the final boss battle. Clearly, as Revali says in Breath of the wild, "you cunts are lucky". It's definitely not a lack of skill on my part.
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Feb 28, 2018 11:16
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Mystic Mongol posted:The pusher's super awful though, especially if you accidentally kept some rando +3 grid def generic pilot instead of Harold Schmidt at the end of a mission. This is what I thought about the pushing mech too, but with some upgrades it's actually insanely good. Being able to shield every turn is incredible. You can just park the guy on top of spawn points all day and never worry about damage. It gets even better with the shield ally upgrade, you can run up to a building, then shield both it and the mech to tank 2 shots at once. Plus this is all on top of being able to push Vek into pits and so on. What's everyone's most hated unit? I think mine is the big burrowing dudes. Although the guys who make rock barriers are a pain in the rear end too. Blisster fucked around with this message at 11:28 on Feb 28, 2018 |
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Feb 28, 2018 11:24
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Discovered that Abe is really good as a starter for the Zenith Guard Squad. If you put him on the charger, it negates the self damage from the charge.
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Feb 28, 2018 11:41
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Almost finished with a 3x punch robot run for the achievement. It's probably one of the easiest with their damage and mobility once upgraded. Also quite fun having your murder robot squad flying around punching bugs into mountains
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Feb 28, 2018 13:48
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Honestly I hate plain old scorpions the worst, stealing my precious upgraded movement. Had a reasonable start as the Rift Breakers, though I never beat the second island. Kind of a rough time as Blitzkrieg, I eked out my first win, but the lightning chaining to your own guys is just so painful. Once, I just used a train to conduct the electricity, I lost a star but killed like four bugs in one action. I'm rolling through the fourth island with team Smokey Lads at the moment, they're a ton of fun, a mobile 4-damage artillery is basically a delete key, and it costs surprisingly little energy to make the pusher just puke shields in every direction.
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Feb 28, 2018 13:52
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Wow that passive that repairs all mechs together is pretty insane, makes blocking easy and you're still free to attack with some
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Feb 28, 2018 13:54
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Blisster posted:What's everyone's most hated unit? I think mine is the big burrowing dudes. Although the guys who make rock barriers are a pain in the rear end too. loving Centipedes: Firefly's "fly until it hits a target" range but it hits three tiles, leaves A.C.I.D. (though that's not exactly bad) and has way too much health. Hate them with a passion. At least the burrowing worms will stop being a problem that turn when you hit them. Mystic Mongol posted:e: Schmiiiiidt! Come back! Huh, in my game that guy was called Harvey. I wonder if there's some randomization of names. He owned bones in the Flamethrower team's science bot though: teleporting idiots into water (or the boss's attack) or just pushing them into mountains/each other to kill them with his repair skill. He basically turns any unit into the Rust Bucket's push-bot and he's a champ in any science vehicle since they tend to be nimble.
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Feb 28, 2018 13:59
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Blocking has one huge cost, though. You don't get XP for murderin'! Get back to murderin', you lazy bum!
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Feb 28, 2018 14:15
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Do pilots earn XP for anything besides kills?
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Alkydere posted:loving Centipedes: Firefly's "fly until it hits a target" range but it hits three tiles, leaves A.C.I.D. (though that's not exactly bad) and has way too much health. Hate them with a passion. Schmidt was my very first unlocked pilot and did a ton of work for me. I think my MVP so far is Archimedes though, the dude who lets your mech move a second time after shooting - he helped secure me my first win by piloting, well, quote:the Rust Bucket's push-bot because it turns out being able to plonk a shielded mech darn near anywhere after running in to push people around is nuts Really Pants posted:Do pilots earn XP for anything besides kills? Nope! Although 'passive' environmental kills (ie you didn't just push someone into the water directly) divide their xp between pilots to at least some degree depending. Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Feb 28, 2018 |
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Feb 28, 2018 14:53
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Two successful Normal runs out of about 7 total runs so far. First win was a two island with fire team, second win was a three island with the blitzkrieg. I unlocked the Hazardous team and holy jesus god their gimmick is hilariously awful. I'm not sure who I'm going to go for the four island clear with. The massive disparity in how I approached fights with the fire team(slow and attrition based with tons of positional manipulation) and the blitzkrieg(every map is like a game of tetris except instead of lining up a tetris i'm lining up chains for the lightning mech to murder) speaks well for the longevity of the game. Kanos fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Feb 28, 2018 |
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Feb 28, 2018 15:14
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Feb 28, 2018 15:33
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Yeah, I just don't get the Hazard mecha. I mean I get what their gimmick is theoretically supposed to be but it just seems awful.
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Feb 28, 2018 15:34
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Nope! Although 'passive' environmental kills (ie you didn't just push someone into the water directly) divide their xp between pilots to at least some degree depending. Boss kills are always 6 XP (spread squad wide if it's environmental) and self kills are 5 XP. It's very worth it to manipulate beetles into throwing themselves into water. Fangz posted:Does fire damage buildings? Nope.
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Feb 28, 2018 15:35
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If I'm rolling with the Rusted Hulks and my rocket artillery farts on a building, will that damage it?
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Feb 28, 2018 15:42
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Really Pants posted:If I'm rolling with the Rusted Hulks and my rocket artillery farts on a building, will that damage it? Nope. Buildings are immune to environmental hazards. it will sit there on the tile but be worthless because the tile is impassable anyways until/unless the building gets demolished.
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Feb 28, 2018 15:46
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Really Pants posted:If I'm rolling with the Rusted Hulks and my rocket artillery farts on a building, will that damage it? No, the electric smoke will only affect enemy units.
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Feb 28, 2018 15:47
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Okay this is getting silly On this map the hole is a bug spawner. Yet here I am with the chain-whip mech. Zap. Zap. Zap.
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Feb 28, 2018 15:51
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Man this game has its hooks in me bad. Started playing at 8:30 last night, looked up at the clock five minutes later and it was 11:30
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Feb 28, 2018 15:56
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What should I be thinking about on deployment?
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Feb 28, 2018 15:58
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Captain Foo posted:What should I be thinking about on deployment? Artillery are usually ideally placed wherever the most space for it to go up and down the row and rain death since they can hit the entire map. There's some exception (Frost Titans artillery is a wonderful blocker since it self-freezes).
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Feb 28, 2018 16:11
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Okay is it me or is the Zenith Guard squad fuckin' awful? The Rustmans are godly and I don't really have anyone else unlocked yet.
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Feb 28, 2018 16:19
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Aviron posted:No, the electric smoke will only affect enemy units. It doesn't damage your mechs, either? Sweet.
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Feb 28, 2018 16:19
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Fresh Shesh Besh posted:Okay is it me or is the Zenith Guard squad fuckin' awful? The Rustmans are godly and I don't really have anyone else unlocked yet. Zenith has been my favorite so far. Their shield bot is crazy and the lazer mech is a murder-beast.
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Feb 28, 2018 16:22
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I guess I'll just have to git gud. So shield blocks an attack no matter the damage, but will it protect my mech from exploding on a mine or getting struck by lightning?
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Feb 28, 2018 16:43
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Really Pants posted:It doesn't damage your mechs, either? Sweet. it doesn't damage them but they can't attack while it it, as normal
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Fresh Shesh Besh posted:Okay is it me or is the Zenith Guard squad fuckin' awful? The Rustmans are godly and I don't really have anyone else unlocked yet. Zenith takes some time to get going for me -- rammer bot needs some health and science bot needs some upgrades. It leans hard on laser bot at first. After the first island though, it's a vek-murderin' orgy
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Feb 28, 2018 16:48
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Captain Foo posted:What should I be thinking about on deployment? Where the Vek are, what they might target, and where you might need to be able to reach in those cases. If webbing units are on the board, especially leapers, consider whether your placement leaves you open to being webbed and wether you can deal with that or not. In some cases, the map layout is such that you can bottleneck fast movers (like the fliers) from being able to run in and threaten back line cities. Similarly, the beetles that make boulders around them are significantly easier to deal with if you can set yourself up to be next to them when they attack.
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Fresh Shesh Besh posted:So shield blocks an attack no matter the damage, but will it protect my mech from exploding on a mine or getting struck by lightning?
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Feb 28, 2018 17:00
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btw if you beat island completing all the objectives you will get to choose a reward from 3 random things for free. + its a achievement
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:judo team is great when you can move dudes around to kill each other, but that often isn't possible and they kind of suck at killing anything otherwise. If there are no enemy robots nearby, you have three perfectly good friendly robots you can smash the enemy into.
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Dark Off posted:btw if you beat island completing all the objectives you will get to choose a reward from 3 random things for free. + its a achievement When you say "all objectives" does this just mean all the objectives in the areas you played, or is there a way to not lose three areas when the Vex attack the HQ
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Soothing Vapors posted:Zenith takes some time to get going for me -- rammer bot needs some health and science bot needs some upgrades. It leans hard on laser bot at first. After the first island though, it's a vek-murderin' orgy That was my view as well. Zenith is less about manipulation and more about simply clearing the Vek off the board while also mitigating damage with the shield-bot. Early on especially you'll want to shield your tank to avoid self damage, but also keep in mind that the shield can be dropped on allied buildings in a pinch. Getting either the extra use/map or the added AOE will do wonders. Don't forget it can pull too which is great for pulling unwanted bugs into the water. For the charger...more HP. Just, more HP. HP buffing pilots, buy the HP upgrade with a core...if you can get a source of armor it becomes immune to itself. And always be zapping with Lazor Mech. Just keep clearing the board.
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IcePhoenix posted:When you say "all objectives" does this just mean all the objectives in the areas you played, or is there a way to not lose three areas when the Vex attack the HQ Just the ones you play.
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