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Zuul the Cat posted:Has anyone used this gold recipe for golden armor? I've used it for my plagued ultramarines and I think it looks great. A much browner, earthier gold to the bright orange of retributor golds. I've actually been putting the agrax on after the ghenna's gold layer though, I prefer how that looks. Sorry I don't have any pictures on hand.
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Booley posted:I painted a thing. Stupid question, but is that airbrush work? Like, is that technique something that could in theory be done over large surface areas via airbrush or other spray applications?
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Feb 28, 2018 08:09
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susan posted:Stupid question, but is that airbrush work? Like, is that technique something that could in theory be done over large surface areas via airbrush or other spray applications? Yes, its mostly airbrush work. I don't see any reason you couldn't do it over a larger surface area, but if its something much bigger than a model you're probably better off looking for product to do automotive candy apple red, which is essentially the same theory.
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Feb 28, 2018 08:14
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The smooth candy apple is definitely airbrush (and not too hard either, especially if you're not afraid to play with lacquer), the edges look like they were gently hit with a dark red, the silver could be airbrushed but looks more likely painted and hit with a thin black glaze/wash. The guy who actually painted the thing should correct me if i'm wrong of course  It's good work and looks great, and you definitely wouldn't need a fancy setup to emulate it since it appears to be base coat and edge shading.
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Feb 28, 2018 08:26
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I've got a Masters G22 and it's working well but the spray is too small. Is there like a tip I can buy for a wider spray or am I just missing something?
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Feb 28, 2018 15:27
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The g22 is a pretty large area brush, how exactly are you using it? For stuff like base coats you want to do multiple quick passes until you get an even layer.
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Feb 28, 2018 15:39
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It's plenty big for models. The issue is terrain. The spray is maybe 3/8in wide. Maybe I'm looking for too much performance out of this.
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Feb 28, 2018 16:22
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Yeah, i'm not sure how much bigger you can get short of just buying a rattlecan AKA a paint shotgun. Incidentally, this is why I usually base coat large terrain with cheap paints, especially absorbant stuff.
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Feb 28, 2018 16:39
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Neurolimal posted:The smooth candy apple is definitely airbrush (and not too hard either, especially if you're not afraid to play with lacquer), the edges look like they were gently hit with a dark red, the silver could be airbrushed but looks more likely painted and hit with a thin black glaze/wash. The guy who actually painted the thing should correct me if i'm wrong of course Yes, definitely airbrushed. Silver undercoat (I used ForgeWorld Iron Hand Steel, but if I did it again I'd probably use Vallejo Metal Color Steel instead), with a zenithal highlight (I used Vallejo Metal Color Duraluminum). Then do some shading with ForgeWorld Calth Blue and Mortarion Green, and then about 15 layers of Angron Red. Its all explained in the FW Horus Heresy masterclass book. https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/The-Horus-Heresy-Model-Masterclass The silver banding is washed with both nuln oil and drakenhof nightshade (blue) to build color temperature contrast against the red.
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Feb 28, 2018 16:59
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Booley posted:Yes, its mostly airbrush work. I don't see any reason you couldn't do it over a larger surface area, but if its something much bigger than a model you're probably better off looking for product to do automotive candy apple red, which is essentially the same theory. I've been trying to do this (basically going for this exactly color) without an airbrush and failing miserably. (Testing on spoons) What kind of dilution ratio should I be using for the red? I either end up with washed-out metallic pink, or the red is too opaque and you can't see the metallic
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Feb 28, 2018 19:08
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Cat Face Joe posted:It's plenty big for models. The issue is terrain. The spray is maybe 3/8in wide. Maybe I'm looking for too much performance out of this. If you're in the US, you can get a paint gun from Harbor Freight for like $10 with coupon. It's like an airbrush on steroids. The downside is that 1) you'll need a real compressor; and 2) a shitload of paint.
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Feb 28, 2018 19:22
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berzerkmonkey posted:If you're in the US, you can get a paint gun from Harbor Freight for like $10 with coupon. It's like an airbrush on steroids. The downside is that 1) you'll need a real compressor; and 2) a shitload of paint. 
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Feb 28, 2018 20:04
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Giant Isopod posted:I've been trying to do this (basically going for this exactly color) without an airbrush and failing miserably. (Testing on spoons) What kind of dilution ratio should I be using for the red? I either end up with washed-out metallic pink, or the red is too opaque and you can't see the metallic Are you using the FW angron red / tamiya clear red, or are you just using a red paint? I think I had it thinned about 50/50 with FW clear medium, but you can still get the same effect unthinned. berzerkmonkey posted:If you're in the US, you can get a paint gun from Harbor Freight for like $10 with coupon. It's like an airbrush on steroids. The downside is that 1) you'll need a real compressor; and 2) a shitload of paint. By real compressor you mean something like this: https://www.harborfreight.com/21-gal-25-hp-125-psi-cast-iron-vertical-air-compressor-61454.html. And your own garage to use it in. And earpro. Those guns are for painting cars/houses, not terrain. Booley fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Feb 28, 2018 |
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Feb 28, 2018 20:05
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Booley posted:Are you using the FW angron red / tamiya clear red, or are you just using a red paint? I think I had it thinned about 50/50 with FW clear medium, but you can still get the same effect unthinned. I've been using tamiya clear red and at least one attempt with reaper clear red (which does not seem to be the same thing at all) thinned about 50/50 with vallejo glaze medium
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Feb 28, 2018 20:22
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Booley posted:And your own garage to use it in. And earpro. Those guns are for painting cars/houses, not terrain. you can't tell me what to do! you're not my real dad!
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Feb 28, 2018 20:26
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Giant Isopod posted:I've been using tamiya clear red and at least one attempt with reaper clear red (which does not seem to be the same thing at all) thinned about 50/50 with vallejo glaze medium I'd say that whatever you did to get the washed out metallic pink is probably the right thing......just apply it another 15 times. Honestly I don't know how much success you'll get doing it with a brush unless you're doing extremely small areas.
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Feb 28, 2018 21:05
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Booley posted:Are you using the FW angron red / tamiya clear red, or are you just using a red paint? I think I had it thinned about 50/50 with FW clear medium, but you can still get the same effect unthinned. A pancake compressor will do just fine. And ear protection is $1 for a few pairs of foam plugs. I don't know what kind of terrain Cat Face Joe is painting, but a standard airbrush doesn't cut it, so the one I recommended might work. Yeah, it's got wide coverage, but it's not spraying a 5 foot swath. I used mine to paint tombstones and skelebois for Halloween.
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Feb 28, 2018 21:16
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Booley posted:By real compressor you mean something like this: https://www.harborfreight.com/21-gal-25-hp-125-psi-cast-iron-vertical-air-compressor-61454.html. And your own garage to use it in. And earpro. Those guns are for painting cars/houses, not terrain. It would certainly paint terrain.
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Feb 28, 2018 21:25
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I use an airbrush for almost everything I can with miniatures and I still use rattlecans for terrain.
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Feb 28, 2018 21:33
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berzerkmonkey posted:A pancake compressor will do just fine. And ear protection is $1 for a few pairs of foam plugs. I don't know what kind of terrain Cat Face Joe is painting, but a standard airbrush doesn't cut it, so the one I recommended might work. Yeah, it's got wide coverage, but it's not spraying a 5 foot swath. I used mine to paint tombstones and skelebois for Halloween. Really? I wouldn't expect it to work very well at all, those HVLP guns expect 5-6cfm at 40psi, and a pancake is maybe 2cfm at 40psi. I guess if you only do short bursts and let it refill the tank inbetween it would work, I just can't see it being much faster than just using a big brush. And I can't see using my pancake compressor in my apartment without my neighbors killing me.
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Feb 28, 2018 21:34
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Booley posted:Really? I wouldn't expect it to work very well at all, those HVLP guns expect 5-6cfm at 40psi, and a pancake is maybe 2cfm at 40psi. I guess if you only do short bursts and let it refill the tank inbetween it would work, I just can't see it being much faster than just using a big brush. And I can't see using my pancake compressor in my apartment without my neighbors killing me. Sorry - you are correct. I shouldn't have said pancake compressor. You are better off using a compressor with a tank - I'm using a compressor with a 2 gallon tank. I'd have to check the HP on the unit, but it worked fine. Bear in mind that I wasn't doing any huge projects, so the tank did have time to refill.
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Feb 28, 2018 22:02
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What on earth happened to this thread
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Feb 28, 2018 22:24
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TTerrible posted:What on earth happened to this thread This is "Compressor Talk - Pancake or Twin stack" now. Where have you been? EDIT: Now I want to go to IHOP.
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Feb 28, 2018 22:27
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Cat Face Joe posted:It's plenty big for models. The issue is terrain. The spray is maybe 3/8in wide. Maybe I'm looking for too much performance out of this. You could probably get a siphon feed airbrush, those seem better designed for spraying lots of paint at higher pressures a with a few inches width of spray. Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Badger-Air-Brush-200-1-Siphon-Airbrush/dp/B000BPWT76
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Feb 28, 2018 22:33
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Miniatures Painting - Bad Advice, lovely Snipes
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Feb 28, 2018 22:33
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Booyah- posted:You could probably get a siphon feed airbrush, those seem better designed for spraying lots of paint at higher pressures a with a few inches width of spray. Something like this: Yes, this is a good solution for painting terrain. It does up to a 2.5" spray pattern, so if you're having trouble getting your paint that wide add more air.
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Feb 28, 2018 22:34
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Using a paint gun and full sized compressor to paint anything even remotely miniature related is like using a shotgun to kill a fly, indoors; it's overkill, won't work well, and your neighbors will hate you for it.
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Feb 28, 2018 22:36
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Feb 28, 2018 22:51
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That looks really miserable. Just rent one of these: https://www.homedepot.com/tool-truck-rental/Medium-Duty-Paint-Sprayer/262906/index.html
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Feb 28, 2018 23:05
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0bEvHplIbQ&t=3s
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Feb 28, 2018 23:16
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Just use a large brush and cheap acrylic lmao, and there's no way there's any terrain big enough where you'd use an airbrush and think "no this is too long".
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Feb 28, 2018 23:19
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Obviously the trick is to convince your friends that painting Aunt Polly's bunker and crater set is much more fun than stickball or hopscotch or what have you.
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Feb 28, 2018 23:41
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Also to chime in, as a former employee of Harbor Freight for 7 years, they're a garbage company that treats their employees like poo poo. Don't buy their stuff unless you absolutely have to.
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Feb 28, 2018 23:41
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This is the ONLY way to paint. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJjiwruZacY&t=83s
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Feb 28, 2018 23:43
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Big McHuge posted:Also to chime in, as a former employee of Harbor Freight for 7 years, they're a garbage company that treats their employees like poo poo. Don't buy their stuff unless you absolutely have to. I bought one of those compressors thinking I'd save myself an extra $50. I think I'm still partially deaf from that loving thing. Holy poo poo. Air brushing should be relaxing, kick back with some light tunes playing, a soft murmur of the compressor kicking in once every few minutes, while doing kick rear end blends on your models.
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Feb 28, 2018 23:50
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Is that Averland Sunset?
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No idea, random google image. But i bet someone has painted a Forgeworld model that cost over $500 with one.
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Mar 1, 2018 01:42
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I painted a 6x4 table with a SOTAR2020. You don’t need a paint gun wtf
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Mar 1, 2018 01:46
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I don't believe fence painting dude is getting coverage like that with just one pass.
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Philthy posted:I bought one of those compressors thinking I'd save myself an extra $50. I wish. The fan on my hood is way too loud for that.
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