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AlmightyBob posted:Goddamn hanzo is fun gently caress you
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1stGear posted:gently caress you 1. He is really fun though. 2. You have a Mei avatar so you're the worst person to judge.
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Feb 28, 2018 02:24
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I wish Jimmy was nearly as good as Hanzo. Make his range just short of siege Hammer's, make his vision all encompassing, bake in his vision Wards, something, gently caress.
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Feb 28, 2018 04:17
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Froghammer posted:Pubbies are all about taking mercs and hate pushing with them Obective spawns are standardized now, with them happening at 1:30 or 3:00 on most maps. Those are the times to stand on a merc camp cap point, and then go to objective. Watch your map. Go to objective as 5. If one of theirs shows to clear that camp, go hard on the 5v4 in your favor. If all five are there, poke objective and let your mercs take an entire fort. Thats the most value you can get out of taking a merc camp of all time.
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Feb 28, 2018 05:03
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Froghammer posted:Pubbies are all about taking mercs and hate pushing with them boy howdy if this isn't the truth
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Feb 28, 2018 06:33
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Do pubbies even know how knight camp works
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Feb 28, 2018 07:04
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I'm not a specialist so i don't push with anything sorry
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Feb 28, 2018 07:29
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What’s that? We wiped their entire team early game? Alright lets go get merc camps while they respawn
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Feb 28, 2018 07:40
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excuse me kael'thas is an assassin, clearing this massive wave is not my job now let me run in and attack three heroes by myself
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Feb 28, 2018 07:43
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I just got off a Dragon Shire game that's a perfect illustration of what people are talking about, the Hanzo and Sonya both on our team spent the whole loving game taking camps during the objective instead of contesting or moving to where they'd be more helpful, which means we never took an objective, which means we lost the game.
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Feb 28, 2018 07:52
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How does a Hanzo spend all game taking mercs when he can clear the map of them in 30 seconds?
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Feb 28, 2018 08:02
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SirSamVimes posted:How does a Hanzo spend all game taking mercs when he can clear the map of them in 30 seconds? I would assume some combo of A). not taking the right talents to optimize it and B). him continually dying to ganks because he's off by himself taking a siege camp while the other team is opportunistically roaming because 2/5ths of our team are perpetually MIA.
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Feb 28, 2018 08:17
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I guess I don't really get the hate-on for Hanzo. Since the nerfs he isn't such an obscene tank-buster to really call out. And he's never been a Jaina/Kael type murdermage. His trait does a lot of work but like... not being able to instant-win against a ranged just because you ambushed em doesn't really strike me as that big of a deal. I guess I shouldn't talk because I still see that ridiculous dragon ult like maybe 30% of the time so I guess I'm just playing against total idiots. Also kind of curious what the secret hyper-wave clear build is. Scatter at 1 does the most aoe but just has to be the worst quest in general, and the Storm 4 doesn't affect mercs at all. So like... Redemption at 1 and Scatter at 4? Are we talking about level 16 or something because this just doesn't seem impressive at all.
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Feb 28, 2018 11:13
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Oh I didn't realize he's free this week. That could be influencing the do-nothingzos I played tonight.
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Feb 28, 2018 11:20
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kater posted:Oh I didn't realize he's free this week. That could be influencing the do-nothingzos I played tonight. This week isn't particularly great for QM, with Vikings being on rotation, Hanzo, KelT. Lots of opportunities to get awful matches. (moreso than usual I mean) Play draft !
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Feb 28, 2018 11:32
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kater posted:Also kind of curious what the secret hyper-wave clear build is. Scatter at 1 does the most aoe but just has to be the worst quest in general, and the Storm 4 doesn't affect mercs at all. So like... Redemption at 1 and Scatter at 4? Are we talking about level 16 or something because this just doesn't seem impressive at all. This, plus scatter cdr at 7. A finished Redemption means you scatter arrow every 2 AAs, which are coming 50% faster. If you make all 5 scatter arrows all hit one merc, they go down crazy fast. Something I didn't notice until I hit level 9 with him: scatter arrow goes through non-heroes until it hits the wall. So, you don't have to get crazy angles to get a clear shot at the wall, just worry about the rebound angles.
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Feb 28, 2018 12:52
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Kai Tave posted:I just got off a Dragon Shire game that's a perfect illustration of what people are talking about, the Hanzo and Sonya both on our team spent the whole loving game taking camps during the objective instead of contesting or moving to where they'd be more helpful, which means we never took an objective, which means we lost the game. I think the mentality of these people is that they are able to contribute to their team's chances of winning without putting themselves in any danger so the risk-reward goes off the charts. They're essentially abathurs that poop out bigger locusts but don't have a hat.
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Feb 28, 2018 16:22
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I've been puttering around on Lost Vikings for a while since they're free and it's some easy levels/gold. I keep on losing track of one of them while they wander off to die, I feel like i'm doing basically nothing, yet I kept getting MVP because of the XP Soaking.
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Feb 28, 2018 16:28
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Kai Tave posted:I don't think I've ever seen a Vikings MVP before. Getting TLV MVP isn't too hard if you watch Erik and Baelog to make sure they don't die all the time. John Murdoch posted:The two OW characters they could translate over with the least fuss would be Doomfist and Moira. McCree would be pretty easy, give him an ammo passive like Tracer. I also think Reaper could work if he had a trait that made him do more damage the closer he was to a hero. Tune his abilities to deal 'full' damage at 2.5 range or something, make him hurt a lot if he gets up in someone's face. Dire Human posted:As someone who knows next to nothing about Diablo 3, what’s the current wishlist for the next character? For me personally, Rakanoth. He's a nobody mid boss, but he looks super cool.  That or a Starcraft reaper. Bonus if said reaper is a lady to minimize the chances of getting Pharah in. Cuntellectual fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Feb 28, 2018 |
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Feb 28, 2018 17:30
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Winston should translate well I think
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Give me a loving Mantid Blizz!!!!!peer posted:Winston should translate well I think Gimme Reinhardt!!! I don't even care about playing him I just want his announcer pack!!!
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Feb 28, 2018 18:01
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kater posted:Also kind of curious what the secret hyper-wave clear build is. Scatter at 1 does the most aoe but just has to be the worst quest in general, and the Storm 4 doesn't affect mercs at all. So like... Redemption at 1 and Scatter at 4? Are we talking about level 16 or something because this just doesn't seem impressive at all. Hanzo's talent design is really really good in general, with the exception of Ignore All Distractions every talent 1-7 is viable. Sindai fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Feb 28, 2018 |
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Feb 28, 2018 18:20
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Cuntellectual posted:I also think Reaper could work if he had a trait that made him do more damage the closer he was to a hero. Tune his abilities to deal 'full' damage at 2.5 range or something, make him hurt a lot if he gets up in someone's face. That trait would be kind of weird on his AA but would be fine for abilities I think. The AI likes to start shooting at stuff once in max range and won't move unless you tell it to or the target moves out of range. I imagine this would be a huge issue for probably +80% of the HotS player base. While it's fine for heroes to be complex or hard to play I think this would be a thing that's subtley complex where a large group of players won't understand why they're performing like crap on the hero. Sindai posted:Explosive at 4 is better for wave clear but halves your merc speed, with piercing at 16 explosive becomes instant clear and scatter build gets close if the wave is anywhere near a wall. His wave clear is good but not top-tier until then. Ignore All Distractions is situationally amazing on maps where you fight near lanes. Having an AA range that's close to Hammer's while shredding armor is no joke.
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Feb 28, 2018 18:35
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kater posted:I guess I don't really get the hate-on for Hanzo. Since the nerfs he isn't such an obscene tank-buster to really call out. And he's never been a Jaina/Kael type murdermage. His trait does a lot of work but like... not being able to instant-win against a ranged just because you ambushed em doesn't really strike me as that big of a deal. I guess I shouldn't talk because I still see that ridiculous dragon ult like maybe 30% of the time so I guess I'm just playing against total idiots. Hanzo has a lot of upsides and very few downsides. I maintain that his base kit isn't necessarily the problem but that his talent selection allows him to do ridiculous things like race Immortals and take mercs faster than anyone else in the game while also having absurdly long attack range, solid waveclear, and a great escape ability on baseline. Like, to take another Overwatch character, Tracer can also be super fuckin annoying, but she's a lot more of a one-trick pony. She's zippy and she does good AA damage, but that's all...her waveclear stinks, she's not good at taking camps (you can solo bosses as her but it takes forever), and blinds will make her life very difficult. I'm not trying to argue that she's bad because she's not, but she has actual meaningful downsides that require you to either draft to accommodate her if she's on your own team or allow you to draft to effectively take advantage of her weaknesses if you're playing against her. Meanwhile, even after several nerfs Hanzo still seems very much "first pick or ban" material.
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Feb 28, 2018 20:15
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I don't think Reaper will ever be in the game because his signature move is basically Valla's Strafe. I'd like to see Sombra, Mei, Winston, or Zenyatta. All characters I enjoyed playing when I did play Overwatch and I feel like they would fill new niches in the HOTS environment.
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Feb 28, 2018 21:10
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Or, radical idea, we delete Overwatch and bring Zarya in as a StarCraft hero.
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Feb 28, 2018 21:20
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lucifirius posted:Or, radical idea, we delete Overwatch and bring Zarya in as a StarCraft hero. DVA gets in on this backdoor as well.
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Feb 28, 2018 21:34
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Olaf The Stout posted:DVA gets in on this backdoor as well. but enough about your pegging fanfic
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Feb 28, 2018 21:47
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BrianBoitano posted:but enough about your pegging fanfic code:
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Feb 28, 2018 22:07
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The music for this is almost a note for note ripoff of white zombie lol.
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I just had the most satisfying experience one can have in any multiplayer game. On Volskaya Foundry our Hanzo is constantly off in another lane while the other team five-mans their way into every fight, consequently we never manage to win a fight. He's not wrong that soaking XP is important but when it means giving the other team virtually uncontested free push (backed by a Zagara no less) it seems sub-optimal to leave everybody a man down so you can plink arrows at minions the entire map away. Words are exchanged to this effect, while Hanzo insists that he's doing his job and maybe the rest of us aren't doing ours. Unsurprisingly we wind up losing that game. Next game queues me into Garden of Terror and would you look at that, it's the same Hanzo from last game only this time he's on the other team. And we absolutely mop the floor with them super hard. It's the small, petty, spiteful victories that make life worth living.
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Orisa's my Overwatch pick. Good playmaking, interesting tank abilities, and Is A Robot Centaur Lady. I'm sure they could come up with an interesting second option for an ult, too. Most importantly of all, no mobility actives to polarize people over.
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Mar 1, 2018 07:39
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Also holy poo poo, I haven't really ever picked Fish Tank for Murky before but I just had a game where the enemy team had Tracer, Illidan, and Muradin on it and our Varian went twin blades so I said gently caress it, and boy howdy was that eye opening. Suddenly being able to just shrug off Tracer's attacks is obscene.
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BrianBoitano posted:but enough about your pegging fanfic Sometimes you gotta set the table so someone else can sweep it.
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Mar 1, 2018 18:48
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I got mecha rehgar this morning now I need to learn how to not suck at him
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New season info https://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/21535474/2018-ranked-season-2-dates-and-rewards-3-1-2018 I've got to run so I can't read all the  but the mount concept art looks good
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Mar 1, 2018 22:59
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It's good that they're getting rid of the uncertainty reset between seasons. There's no real reason to do it because someone's skill isn't going to radically change between seasons, it was just a sop to people who believe in MMR hell.
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I like how they don't say anything about how they actually fixed any problems or mention performance based points or anything. They just turn off this thing and put a cap on that thing and call it a day. poo poo, they seem to spend more energy on the backstories for new skins than explaining how they plan to improve the game.
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