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Mike the TV posted:The Guardian equipment is unlocked by delivering materials to technology brokers, not by doing missions. You just need to go to the Guardian sites (all the ones you need are in the galnet article) and scan columns and blow up bad guys in your SRV. There are easy puzzles to do at some of them. I'd suggest doing one once, but are not necessary to getting the materials you need. Wait, what does this mean? You can just skip engineers and get better upgrades this way?
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my understanding of it is the pecking order goes -vanilla modules -engineered vanilla modules or guardian modules -engineered guardian modules
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Mar 1, 2018 16:34
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Hull and module reinforcements, SCB. Just one of each?  That seems like... whatever the opposite of min-maxing is.How much good is a single class 4 SCB even doing to a grade 5 or 6 shield when you're getting drilled in combat? In my FDL, I've always had to chain two SCBs together to make them worth a drat
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It’s what I ran on the beta and it worked out well. I’m a filthy casual though.
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Mar 1, 2018 16:43
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Sekenr posted:Wait, what does this mean? You can just skip engineers and get better upgrades this way? Think of it more like power play modules, specifically like the prismatic shield. They are an unlockable item that powerful on their own. The guardian power plant can be engineered too, which rules.
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Mar 1, 2018 16:46
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power play modules are another thing i'm completely in the dark about after all these years
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Mar 1, 2018 16:52
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Cowcaster posted:power play modules are another thing i'm completely in the dark about after all these years Same, i've never felt the burning need for them, and powerplay itself has never even kinda enticed me.
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Mar 1, 2018 16:57
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Cowcaster posted:power play modules are another thing i'm completely in the dark about after all these years I was big into them for a while until the third or so balancing pass on my advanced plasma accelerators turned them into big Nerf guns. I hear they are better now, but it really soured me to the whole thing after logging in one day to suddenly not doing any worthwhile damage. Prismatic Shields have always been kinda cool though. Not always useful, but neat anyway.
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Mar 1, 2018 17:02
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more than anything from what i understand aside from the initial grind you have to do for each powerplay faction to unlock access to the module they offer, you also have to continually turn in missions over the course of a week in order to maintain access to the module? which is something that i never really felt enthusiastic about participating in since you can lose the bonus you bothered grinding out from simple inactivity
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Mar 1, 2018 17:08
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Yes, but you never lose the module unless you sell it. So buy several, then ditch the power. This is easy now with module storage.
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Mar 1, 2018 17:13
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it's more that it sounds like a lot of effort for results that aren't particularly great
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Mar 1, 2018 17:26
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then again that's kind of elite dangerous' whole shtick isn't it
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Mar 1, 2018 17:27
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Packhound missiles look fun enough to be worth the grind, but I still haven't done it.
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Mar 1, 2018 17:36
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Enos Cabell posted:Packhound missiles look fun enough to be worth the grind, but I still haven't done it. Unlike a lot of the other PP modules they are basically a straight upgrade from the non-PP version. They do come with a few quirks like not working at point blank but are generally considered worth it.
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Mar 1, 2018 17:39
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Good news and bad news: Good news is I got my DBX to over 58 LY for jump range. The bad news is it's impossible to break 60 in it without dropping the SRV hanger (59 is possible, but that requires extreme min-maxing). TO COLONIA I GO!
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Mar 1, 2018 17:42
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man i just looked it up and aside from just being a straight rank grind the powerplay modules require you to be pledged to a power for 4 weeks straight before buying them? that is insane to me
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Mar 1, 2018 17:51
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Cowcaster posted:power play modules are another thing i'm completely in the dark about after all these years What, you don't want to sit on your hands for an entire IRL month, then do a bunch of repetitive busywork to get some equipment you can't engineer?
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Trustworthy posted:What, you don't want to sit on your hands for an entire IRL month, then do a bunch of repetitive busywork to get some equipment you can't engineer? wowzers i didn't even know they were unengineerable too. this situation is about 10x worse than i imagined and i didn't even want to do the 1/10th version
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Cowcaster posted:wowzers i didn't even know they were unengineerable too. this situation is about 10x worse than i imagined and i didn't even want to do the 1/10th version Some can be engineered, some can't. The wait is supposedly so you're more likely to help the Power, but gently caress that lol
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I have engineered power play modules, so unless that changed with the new patch, they are able to be modified by engineers.
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Mar 1, 2018 18:14
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Giovanni0109 posted:I have engineered power play modules, so unless that changed with the new patch, they are able to be modified by engineers. The only power play module I know of that can't be modified is the mining lance, but that's because mining lasers can't be modded yet.
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I have unlocked most of the powerplay modules, basically you join the faction, sit around for 3 weeks, and then grind up 750 merits to unlock the module. The most enjoyable way to get to 750 merits is undermining in Bunda (an anarchy system right next to Shinrata Dezhra) by interdicting and killing NPCs called "Federal Courier" that spawn in the system. Each Federal Courier gives you 30 powerplay merits, so you need to kill 25 of them, they're all trade ships so you end up getting a bunch of useful materials also. As far as usefulness goes, the Pack Hound Missiles and Prismatic Shields are really good, everything else is pretty niche. Bumbler fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Mar 1, 2018 |
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Mar 1, 2018 18:24
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i sure would like to try out a cluster missile launcher on my spaceship, in about a month or so
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Cowcaster posted:i sure would like to try out a cluster missile launcher on my spaceship, in about a month or so Tis the will of the Brown Sea
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Bumbler posted:I have unlocked most of the powerplay modules, basically you join the faction, sit around for 3 weeks, and then grind up 750 merits to permanently unlock the module. The most enjoyable way to get to 750 merits is undermining in Bunda (an anarchy system right next to Shinrata Dezhra) by interdicting and killing NPCs called "Federal Courier" that spawn in the system. Each Federal Courier gives you 30 powerplay merits, so you need to kill 25 of them, they're all trade ships so you end up getting a bunch of useful materials also. It's not permanent: you lose access to the module when you go below the required rank (if you do the minimum, decay will take 1 week) or change factions.  Powerplay is avoidable unless you ~really~ want to do big ship PVP (you need prismatics) or just ~really~ want to live out your gundam fantasy (you need packhounds). It is relatively painless: sign up, wait three weeks, then kill ~35  bad hombres and turn the merits in to the faction.iospace posted:Good news and bad news: Did you try an up-powered 1A or 2A guardian plant? Lightweight everything? Strip weapons and utilities?
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so is it the case that even if i plan on never participating in powerplay ever i might as well pledge to aisling duval now since she's got what seems to be the most desirable powerplay module and so if i ever change my mind i'll have the time sink already out of the way?
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Are they adding a limpet controller thing to the game yet or do you still need like a billion different types of limpets?
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Cowcaster posted:so is it the case that even if i plan on never participating in powerplay ever i might as well pledge to aisling duval now since she's got what seems to be the most desirable powerplay module and so if i ever change my mind i'll have the time sink already out of the way? Note though that while pledged to a power you'll be harassed by NPCs from other powers if/when you run into them. It's not a tremendous problem, but can be annoying when you just want to be left alone.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:It's not permanent: you lose access to the module when you go below the required rank (if you do the minimum, decay will take 1 week) or change factions. True, I guess permanent was a bad choice of words. You have to buy the module the week you unlock it, but once you obtain it then it's yours permanently and you can store extras in module storage. Now my module storage is cluttered up with a bunch of extra copies of powerplay weapons that I never use, thank god they doubled the module storage limit
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Bumbler posted:True, I guess permanent was a bad choice of words. You have to buy the module the week you unlock it, but once you obtain it then it's yours permanently and you can store extras in module storage. Now my module storage is cluttered up with a bunch of extra copies of powerplay weapons that I never use, thank god they doubled the module storage limit Oh right on! I think we are on the same page now. So I figured out it didn't stop registering my trigger pulls so much as delete and reset all of my bindings.  Is there any way to recover my pre-patch bindings?
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Did you try an up-powered 1A or 2A guardian plant? Lightweight everything? Strip weapons and utilities? It would have to be a 1A plant because I'm using a 2A normal already. Basically as it stands, I would have to remove more weight than I have the ability to do so unless I want to drop the hanger. I don't have a 100% maxed FSD (  ), but it's at the last roll before being maxed out, so I doubt it would add enough to compensate.Either way, 58+LY is a good range and I'm happy with it. I'm already out of the bubble and on my way to Colonia with stops on the way.
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on an entirely different topic, with the new way engineering works what happens if you decide you want to switch the kind of upgrade you want on a module? do you have to run it through everything from scratch? can you switch to an upgrade the same level as the one it already has?
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Knifegrab posted:Are they adding a limpet controller thing to the game yet or do you still need like a billion different types of limpets? Creating some kind of unified limpet module sounds like something they'll be implementing in the near future, but it's not here yet
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Trustworthy posted:Creating some kind of unified limpet module sounds like something they'll be implementing in the near future, but it's not here yet They talked about it and it sounded like limpet controller might become a container module like SRV and Fighter bays and you choose what kind of limpets you want to be able to use by filling the slots. I don't think an ETA was mentioned on it.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Oh right on! I think we are on the same page now. Check which preset you're set to and also what other ones you have available. I had all of my binds in the 'custom' preset, but the game switched to a different preset when it couldn't detect my X52. Once I fixed the detection issue, I had to then manually switch back to the custom preset which restored all of my old binds.
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I know this is the ED thread however I don't see a general space sim thread so figured I'd ask here. Has anyone played Helium Rain? Looks like s pretty neat space game http://store.steampowered.com/app/681330/Helium_Rain/
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Mar 1, 2018 19:53
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Harminoff posted:I know this is the ED thread however I don't see a general space sim thread so figured I'd ask here. The graphics remind me of a cheap knock-off X3 Also ick, early access
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Oh right on! I think we are on the same page now. Not unless you backed them up. This comes about every patch, sadly. After you perfect your bindings this time, make sure you save the keybind file (google for the location). I have mine backed up on my Google Drive. Cowcaster posted:on an entirely different topic, with the new way engineering works what happens if you decide you want to switch the kind of upgrade you want on a module? do you have to run it through everything from scratch? can you switch to an upgrade the same level as the one it already has? I think you have to redo it from scratch, unless you're just changing the experimental effect.
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