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What I've heard is that horses are ridiculous money pits and time sinks and having them means dedicating all your free time and money to their care and it's insane. It's a bit like if your wife was really into vintage Ferraris.
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Mar 1, 2018 19:08
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Leperflesh posted:What I've heard is that horses are ridiculous money pits and time sinks and having them means dedicating all your free time and money to their care and it's insane. It's a bit like if your wife was really into vintage Ferraris. Please list the money costs. She has been volunteering for a horse rescue for the past two years and had her own horse for a better part of the year before that prior to moving. Granted she was only doing half boarding at the time. Etrips fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Mar 1, 2018 |
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Mar 1, 2018 19:11
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poo poo man this is what I've heard, I'd just be googling "costs of keeping a horse" and I'm sure you can do that. But there's horror stories out there, people making $100k a year and spending $50k of it just on horse stuff.
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Mar 1, 2018 19:14
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Etrips posted:It’s starting from scratch So you're planning for 5 figures worth of fence, a barn and run in sheds? Awesome. She's probably gonna want a tractor or gator or something also. Etrips posted:I don’t understand how they can possibly go bankrupt though unless they are improperly cared for / injured where vets bills can get high real quick. Sounds like you do understand.
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Mar 1, 2018 19:16
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Leperflesh posted:poo poo man this is what I've heard, I'd just be googling "costs of keeping a horse" and I'm sure you can do that. But there's horror stories out there, people making $100k a year and spending $50k of it just on horse stuff. The costs, once you have the land and facilities, can be very reasonable, especially if you have enough pasture that you aren't hay feeding all year long. That being said, most people who end up in trouble over this treat it as an all-encompassing lifestyle choice, where $12,000 custom saddles are an absolute requirement and a $0.75 12-gauge rifled slug isn't a solution to a gravely injured animal.
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Mar 1, 2018 19:20
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https://www.moneycrashers.com/cost-owning-horse-alternatives-buying/ Horses are expensive!
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Mar 1, 2018 19:20
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Motronic posted:The costs, once you have the land and facilities, can be very reasonable, especially if you have enough pasture that you aren't hay feeding all year long. Yeah I've heard about boarding fees, paying people to rub your horse (currying? I think it's called currying) because you can't go rub the horse every single day, the costs of a horse hauling trailer and a truck and their care and maintenance, paying people to ride your horse, and of course vet bills. And I'm not a horse person expert so I'm just guessing that's the tip of the iceburg. I bet very prudent horse owners can keep costs under control, really, horror stories can be overblown. 
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Mar 1, 2018 19:27
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Most of the costs are when you have to divorce your crazy horse wife.
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Mar 1, 2018 19:27
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Motronic posted:So you're planning for 5 figures worth of fence, a barn and run in sheds? Awesome. This is correct. No debt and no kids (ever). She already has all of her tack that she needs. Edit: no debt aside from the one we are about to acquire with the house. Etrips fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Mar 1, 2018 |
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Mar 1, 2018 19:48
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Whatever you do, speaking as a conservation professional, please plan your poo poo out and talk to your local Ag extension and conservation/soil district. Boarding a single horse is a whole different game than managing a whole operation, and I've been to multiple places where people have spent that $300,000 on a barn, fencing, etc. Then I roll up and have to tell them half if it isn't legal. If you happen to be looking in PA drop me a PM.
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Mar 1, 2018 20:34
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Etrips posted:She already has all of her tack that she needs. lol Please come back and admit when you realize how wrong you are.
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Mar 1, 2018 20:50
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LogisticEarth posted:Whatever you do, speaking as a conservation professional, please plan your poo poo out and talk to your local Ag extension and conservation/soil district. Boarding a single horse is a whole different game than managing a whole operation, and I've been to multiple places where people have spent that $300,000 on a barn, fencing, etc. Then I roll up and have to tell them half if it isn't legal. Thanks for the piece of advice. I will definitely look into it some more tonight. edit: What information am I looking for exactly in regards to the conservation/soil district piece? edit2: just going to PM you! Motronic posted:lol Fair enough, thankfully she doesn't have fashion fetishes where she has to buy tons of clothes/purses/shoes. She would rather play with ponies. 
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Mar 1, 2018 21:05
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It's cruel to keep a single horse on it's own, they're herd animals and need the constant presence of other horses to feel comfortable. ...is a thing your wife is going to tell you during the Should We Get A Second Horse Debate. She'll be right, of course, so you should mention this during the Should We Get A Single Horse Debate, preemptively.
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Mar 1, 2018 21:23
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And the F350 to pull the two horse trailer because buying that is better sense than having to sell the one horse trailer and upgrade when you get he second horse. What about a four horse trailer since you have that F350?
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Mar 2, 2018 01:47
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Homeownership: Do you even horse?
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Mar 2, 2018 01:51
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Be sure to budget for when all the horse's hair falls out because somebody breathed on it wrong
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Mar 2, 2018 01:53
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Alarbus posted:And the F350 to pull the two horse trailer because buying that is better sense than having to sell the one horse trailer and upgrade when you get he second horse. She already owns a Tundra.
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Mar 2, 2018 01:58
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Alarbus posted:And the F350 to pull the two horse trailer because buying that is better sense than having to sell the one horse trailer and upgrade when you get he second horse. I'd go for a 6. But that has to be aluminum and we need to put air suspension in the back of the 350. Or just a 4 with a tack room and air conditioning.
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Mar 2, 2018 02:25
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Etrips posted:She already owns a Tundra. Not available as a dually. And every proper horse chick needs 6 tires on her truck.
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Mar 2, 2018 02:25
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Seriously though you will need more tow power than a Tundra.
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Mar 2, 2018 02:29
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Gonna need some hay rings for your hay. And to store it. A nice big tractor will move the round bales a lot easier for you. 2 horse slant load trailer with living quarters and a gooseneck is also good. And knowing a good farrier and big animal vet. Don’t need a barn for the horses but some good fencing and barbed wire works. And the ability to fix fence monthly because horses escape and trees fall down on fence yearly. My mom has horses. My dad says if she dies before him, the horses and all their equipment will be gone in a week. Good luck!
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Mar 2, 2018 03:28
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Wish I had extra land to grow & bale hay. Have a few friends that do it for some extra money.
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Mar 2, 2018 13:20
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HEY NONG MAN posted:Seriously though you will need more tow power than a Tundra. I have had 3 horses in a steel trailer behind my tundra. Its fine. Round bales are its downfall past 7-8 or so. E: If your girl is into dressage, hunter/jumper or rides an english saddle run far away. If she just wants a horse to ride on the trails once in a while your probably ok. Ours get ridden a half dozen times a year and expenses including all feed and vet bills run $100–250 a month depending on the season. Its not bad but make sure shes ok with you wasting that much money and time on a hobby of your own. rdb fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Mar 2, 2018 |
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Mar 2, 2018 15:17
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I bought a house recently and my detached garage empties out into an alleyway behind my house. Between the garage and alleyway is grass and mud. I'm looking to dig out some of the dirt and drop in gravel, but there seems to be a buried cable line traveling parallel to the alleyway, between my garage and the paved alley drive. Who do I call to ask about moving this, the city? Is there a particular department that I would call or person to ask for? Or should I try cable companies? The cable is barely even buried, in fact it's exposed above the grass at a couple of places. I don't know why they buried a line traveling the entire length of my property going to my neighbors house, when they have a utility pole on their property already, which actually provides cable to the neighbor also!
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Mar 5, 2018 20:40
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Most cities have a “call before you dig” signage on poles and posts so you could check around and look for that. For instance, WA/OR/MT/HI all use a common service it looks like: http://www.callbeforeyoudig.org
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Mar 5, 2018 20:43
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I don't think I can ever use a family member for house work ever again. My wife's uncle does very nice outdoor decks so we hired him to do our 2nd floor deck stairs. $5,950 which includes replacing a bunch of rotted wood rails and extending a portion of our first floor deck to match the geometry of the L-shaped stairs. Originally he told us he would start last Tuesday and be done by Saturday. Perfect as we had a Sunday appliance delivery for upstairs. Tuesday comes and goes, texts us late he's starting Wednesday. Starts Wednesday for 4 hours with a team of 4, just does the cement landing for the L. Thursday, another 4 hours he pulls older boards and the railings. Haven't seen him since. Finally says he will be here tomorrow and will finish Sunday. However we are planning for 9 inches of snow Wednesday, so likely will become a 3 week project. I think one of his guys spent more time hitting on my wife than actually doing work Also since the appliance guys had to use the inside steps, they ended up breaking my door knob, didn't notice until after I gave me a $200 tip (it was a lot of heavy stuff) 
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Mar 5, 2018 21:41
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Sepist posted:I gave me a $200 tip Get a refund.
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No man it was hard work supervising the appliance guys, I deserve that $200 tip
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Mar 5, 2018 21:53
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I've been reading this thread for a while, since I recently bought my first house. I now have my first plumbing project. What is that series of books people always bring up here about electrical and plumbing work? Black & Decker? Alternately, recommendations on how-to plumbing books?
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Mar 5, 2018 22:55
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extravadanza posted:I bought a house recently and my detached garage empties out into an alleyway behind my house. Between the garage and alleyway is grass and mud. I'm looking to dig out some of the dirt and drop in gravel, but there seems to be a buried cable line traveling parallel to the alleyway, between my garage and the paved alley drive. Who do I call to ask about moving this, the city? Is there a particular department that I would call or person to ask for? Or should I try cable companies? The cable is barely even buried, in fact it's exposed above the grass at a couple of places. I don't know why they buried a line traveling the entire length of my property going to my neighbors house, when they have a utility pole on their property already, which actually provides cable to the neighbor also! Is it a cable TV wire? Telephone? Any electric cable should be buried way deeper. Sometime in the winter they can't bury them until the dirt thaws. I would guess it is cable or ATT internet. They still won't bury it deep enough so just dig around it and push it into the alley so you have a big enough hole for your rocks. They will install it the right way eventually.
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Mar 6, 2018 18:56
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So with the last storm taking out power to a lot of my neighbors, I have realized that without power my sump pump will stop working and probably flood our basement. It seems my options are 1) Battery backup sump system. This doesn't seem like it will work because there is no room in the sump well for another pump. 2) Generator. This seems like a poor option because it doesn't do anything if we are away or sleeping and it's not already on when the power goes out. 3) A power inverter + battery. This seems like what I want, but it's like almost a grand when you include the battery price? 4) A bucket and constant vigilance. What I may actually end up with...
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Mar 6, 2018 20:10
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Elysium posted:2) Generator. This seems like a poor option because it doesn't do anything if we are away or sleeping and it's not already on when the power goes out. You are looking for a "whole house generator." It turns on and off automatically as needed. If this is not within your budget/doesn't seem like it will greatly improve your life in general you are stuck with battery backed sumps and a portable generator for when the batteries eventually run out. How fast this happens really depends on how wet your basement is, and how bad it is outside (usually pretty bad if the power is out).
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Elysium posted:So with the last storm taking out power to a lot of my neighbors, I have realized that without power my sump pump will stop working and probably flood our basement. It seems my options are 2) Generator. This seems like a poor option because it doesn't do anything if we are away or sleeping and it's not already on when the power goes out. How much water are you talking about that you cannot wait until morning to fire up your sump pump? If 12 hours down is going to sink you are there other drainage issues you should be attempting to mitigate? You could rig a poor-mans alarm, but expect false positives. Buy a beater used UPS off craigslist. Plug it in in your bedroom. When the power goes out it will beep like your house is burning down. If you do further research you might be able to find one that has a delay on the beeping to prevent minor transient events from triggering the beeping. It will also complain when the battery needs replacing. On the plus side no more waking up to an uncharged cell phone if the power has been out all night!
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Anyone have experience with geothermal heat pumps? My wife and I are set to close next month on a house that has a gas furnace that is a few years past its life expectancy and no central AC. We're debating replacing the furnace with a geothermal heat pump since we need to replace it and are going to need central AC anyway, and we plan on being here for the next 10+ years so the cost savings might be worth it. Are they really as efficient/cheap to operate as they claim to be?
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HEY NONG MAN posted:Most cities have a “call before you dig” signage on poles and posts so you could check around and look for that. I think 811 is the national number and they'll direct you appropriately.
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Jose Valasquez posted:Anyone have experience with geothermal heat pumps? I suspect the answer is gonna be highly dependent on a bunch of variables, like, where do you live (what region of the world), is your house on a grade, what's your foundation design, how many square feet are you heating/cooling, what does energy cost in your area, etc. Then throw in probably a big range of costs depending on your local cost of labor, which brand of solution you go with, what options you pick, etc.
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Elysium posted:So with the last storm taking out power to a lot of my neighbors, I have realized that without power my sump pump will stop working and probably flood our basement. It seems my options are 1) Battery backup sump system. This doesn't seem like it will work because there is no room in the sump well for another pump. 2) Generator. This seems like a poor option because it doesn't do anything if we are away or sleeping and it's not already on when the power goes out. 3) A power inverter + battery. This seems like what I want, but it's like almost a grand when you include the battery price? 4) A bucket and constant vigilance. What I may actually end up with... If you are on public water they have backup pumps that run on water pressure. So when your main pump goes down, your backup pump kicks on, running off of the pressure in the public system. It's expensive as poo poo to run, it's like leaving a tap on full bore all the time. But it may be cheaper than a flooded basement and should basically never go down.
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Leperflesh posted:I suspect the answer is gonna be highly dependent on a bunch of variables, like, where do you live (what region of the world), is your house on a grade, what's your foundation design, how many square feet are you heating/cooling, what does energy cost in your area, etc. Then throw in probably a big range of costs depending on your local cost of labor, which brand of solution you go with, what options you pick, etc. They work great but cost a lot more to install. With the low cost of natural gas they are probably not your best option right now, but the most expensive part is installing the part in the ground so you could conceivably cost that over 60 to 100 years and come out ahead. I went with a natural gas unit and no heat pump because my gas bill still never breaks $200 a month even with sub zero F temps and setting the furnace at 73. I expect this to be the case over the next 15 years. Fact of the matter is you will probably move before the geo pays you back.
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Elysium posted:So with the last storm taking out power to a lot of my neighbors, I have realized that without power my sump pump will stop working and probably flood our basement. It seems my options are 1) Battery backup sump system. This doesn't seem like it will work because there is no room in the sump well for another pump. 2) Generator. This seems like a poor option because it doesn't do anything if we are away or sleeping and it's not already on when the power goes out. 3) A power inverter + battery. This seems like what I want, but it's like almost a grand when you include the battery price? 4) A bucket and constant vigilance. What I may actually end up with... How big of a sump pump do you have? There's stuff like this: https://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-APS750-Inverter-Charger/dp/B0007PGAG6 ... even with a decent deep cycle battery I can't see that really being $1000
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