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Huh, my Swiss friend calls where she's from a state, I just always assumed that was her translating to American terms and not the actual term they use in Switzerland. e: Ugh, bad page start, have an old classic: 
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Deltasquid posted:I think the word "state" might be derived from "estate", as in, "the estates-general" of a country. The way I was taught, there are three different concepts that tend to be confused:
But sometimes, things just don't make sense. Like the United States form a federal state made out of federal states, and they have a Department of State (singular) which isn't about the state, but about all the other states. Edgar Allen Ho posted:Incidentally we also say “the united nations is” in american english nowadays. In French, Spanish, and Russian it's "organization of the united nations" which makes it simpler to be grammatically correct because you can use either the long form "the united nations organization is" or the abbreviated form "the united nations are". It's actually kinda odd that this "organization" part is missing from English. Anyways, here's a stupid map: 
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Mar 1, 2018 17:21
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Department of State makes sense to me as Department of State(hood)
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Mar 1, 2018 17:29
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Lord Hydronium posted:Huh, my Swiss friend calls where she's from a state, I just always assumed that was her translating to American terms and not the actual term they use in Switzerland. Yeah, I've never heard of them called states even translated into English. On that note, my wife got me an old geography book (1842, Malte Brun's "Geographie Universelle", third edition and been looking for others) for my birthday last year and it was fascinating. We were both shocked to learn that Neuchatel was under the nominal control of the king of Prussia. That said, it looks like it was only in name, as "The prince only enjoys the revenue from the domains that he possesses and a few former contributions which are regulated and that cannot be increased. The inhabitants, free in all senses of the word, have neither customs nor forced military service. The justice is also not in the name of the king of Prussia." On a related note, they are all referred to as "cantons". The maps in it are all fun, e.g. this one of France is interesting, e.g. Savoy is independent.  And this "map" of the tallest mountains is also interesting. I was surprised at how bad it was, like maybe some places were not known yet like Mount Kilimanjaro or Mount Kenya, but somehow they did know about Rwenzori (Mt de la Lune). Mount Cameroon and Damavand are two strange omissions since they should have known about both and roughly how tall they were. Puncak Jaya is missing too even though it would've been known about since it's obvious from the ocean, but maybe they just had no idea about how tall it was for some reason. This is the third edition of the book, so any "oops missed that" should've been ironed out, you'd think. 
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Mar 1, 2018 17:59
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Let's spice it up a bit shall we?  https://onehellofabird.deviantart.com/art/Old-World-languages-and-cities-3000-BC-407150252
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Mano posted:But the situation during the HRE was complicated anyway concerning statehood. Any excuse to post a map of the HRE from like, any date(in this case, 1400) 
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Mar 1, 2018 23:33
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In Paradox game jargon, this is called "border gore".
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Mar 1, 2018 23:43
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Cat Mattress posted:In Paradox game jargon, this is called "border gore". https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=684459310
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Saladman posted:Yeah, I've never heard of them called states even translated into English. On that note, my wife got me an old geography book (1842, Malte Brun's "Geographie Universelle", third edition and been looking for others) for my birthday last year and it was fascinating. We were both shocked to learn that Neuchatel was under the nominal control of the king of Prussia. That said, it looks like it was only in name, as "The prince only enjoys the revenue from the domains that he possesses and a few former contributions which are regulated and that cannot be increased. The inhabitants, free in all senses of the word, have neither customs nor forced military service. The justice is also not in the name of the king of Prussia." On a related note, they are all referred to as "cantons". 1842 is smack in the middle of the age when the first triangulation surveys of the earth were being conducted, so many of the peaks had probably never been measured accurately before. The Great Trigonometric Survey of India only reached the Himalayas in the next decade, I believe, and all previous attempts to determine their height were flawed in various ways.
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Saladman posted:The maps in it are all fun, e.g. this one of France is interesting, e.g. Savoy is independent. Not independent, part of the Kingdom of Sardinia. It even says "états sardes" .
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Jaguars! posted:1842 is smack in the middle of the age when the first triangulation surveys of the earth were being conducted, so many of the peaks had probably never been measured accurately before. The Great Trigonometric Survey of India only reached the Himalayas in the next decade, I believe, and all previous attempts to determine their height were flawed in various ways.
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Negrostrike posted:Let's spice it up a bit shall we? Woaaah there, map, slow down! That's a lot of assumptions in one map. It's fun though.
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Negrostrike posted:Let's spice it up a bit shall we? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cgeXd5kRDg
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Mar 2, 2018 07:25
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Do not steal a Dutchman's bike.
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Mar 2, 2018 08:38
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That's the kind of question where the responses are only useful if you're interested in measuring the relative strength of social desirability bias. I doubt there are huge differences in reality, the Dutch just say whatever they like, whenever they like, without giving a gently caress what anyone else thinks. I'm not surprised at this result.
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Mar 2, 2018 09:04
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Yeah, well, some of us use soap only if it's a poop so
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Mar 2, 2018 09:33
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Before is the more interesting question.
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Mar 2, 2018 09:54
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Do not steal a Dutchman's bike. europemighthaveuhcbutjesusidonttrustthemtoremainniceeuropeandnotreverttoogimperialismeurope.jpg
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Grevling posted:Yeah, well, some of us use soap only if it's a poop so thats ethically and biologically disgusting do you think that microorganisms can't move ?
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Mar 2, 2018 10:26
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The former Ottoman Empire is pretty clean.
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Mar 2, 2018 10:29
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Norwegians have no hands.
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Mar 2, 2018 10:50
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Lycus posted:The former Ottoman Empire is pretty clean.
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Mar 2, 2018 10:50
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That's the real reason that Europeans are terrified of sharia law.
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Mar 2, 2018 10:52
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Grevling posted:Yeah, well, some of us use soap only if it's a poop so
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Mar 2, 2018 10:57
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my dick is clean
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Mar 2, 2018 10:58
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Also before touching your dick. You (hopefully) know what your dick has touched all day, but you don't know what your hands have touched. About 1/5th of pinkeye infections are caused by chlamydia. Someone with pinkeye rubs their eye, shakes your hand, you touch your dick, that could work out badly for you.
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Guavanaut posted:That's the real reason that Europeans are terrified of sharia law.
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Cable Guy posted:Dude... please wash your hands after touching your dick. Dicks are usually cleaner than hands.
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Mar 2, 2018 11:02
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Kurtofan posted:my dick is clean It's not. No really... It's not.
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Mar 2, 2018 11:06
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True. The only thing I really use my penis for is opening doors, sorting small change, and stamping wax seals. Can't get too dirty from that.
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Mar 2, 2018 11:06
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"At Harrow, they taught us not to piss on our hands." - Winston Churchill 
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I recall reading somewhere that washing your hands a couple of times a day is a good idea anyway so after pissing is as good a time as any since there's a sink right there. If I had a map illustrating this concept I suppose this is where I'd be posting it but welp.
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Unkempt posted:I recall reading somewhere that washing your hands a couple of times a day is a good idea anyway so after pissing is as good a time as any since there's a sink right there. If I had a map illustrating this concept I suppose this is where I'd be posting it but welp. In general, people nowadays are too hygiene-conscious and that's why so many have all sorts of weird allergies and respiratory diseases, and the immune system of a frail 90-year-old. However, yes, washing your hands is the one exception and we could stand to do it more often on average. @ButteryPastry: my OCD hygiene freak coworker is muslim, so it checks out.
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Phlegmish posted:In general, people nowadays are too hygiene-conscious and that's why so many have all sorts of weird allergies and respiratory diseases, and the immune system of a frail 90-year-old. It's often suggested as an explanation; but I believe pollution is a bigger culprit here. All the suspended particulate matter wreck havoc on people's lungs.  Also all your food is pumped full of poisons.
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Autoimmune diseases are caused by overly sterile environments. The immune system flips the gently caress out over some harmless foreign body because it's not used to them. That's why they mainly affect people in rich countries.
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I avoid autoimmune disorders by eating every third meal directly off the floor of a dive bar bathroom using used syringes as chopsticks.
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Remember goons, never wash your hands because handwashing is the number one disease vector in first world countries
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Lycus posted:The former Ottoman Empire is pretty clean. The Byzantine Empire also continued the Roman tradition of bathing, eating with forks instead of your hands, and wearing deodorant.
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Byzantine posted:wearing deodorant. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/28/hate-body-odour-youre-more-likely-to-have-rightwing-views
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