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I stumbled across a woman while high as gently caress in Joshua Tree playing a violin and it turned out she was in the LA Philharmonic. She was taking requests from people that were all standing around the fire and I requested Last of the Mohicans and she played the whole incredible thing, it went on for like twenty minutes. I cried and I wasn't alone. That's my Last of the Mohicans story, it's almost as beautiful as that final waterfall scene.
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Wandle Cax posted:I forgot about Mohicans tbh that's a good film. The others in the list are good but don't have the style and depth of Heat and Collateral. Miami Vice is mediocre though, an all style no substance film without his usual flair. I think I've watched Miami Vice maybe twice as many times as all his other films put together; it's a wonderful hybrid of police procedural and revenge flick, and once again Mann's casting choices are loving prime. Gong Li just knocks it out of the park. Agreed that Manhunter and Thief can't match the epic scope of Heat, but in terms of style they both hit higher notes. Heat is amazing but it's also a bit of a slog, too, with an air of self-importance that kind of grows old on repeat viewings. Mann's leaner films tend to benefit from repeat viewings. All in all, saying that Mann only has 2 good films is either a mark of naivete or the mark of someone who isn't interested in what he's pushing. I've always felt that Mann's oeuvre, while decidedly masculine, was both varied and consistent...and one of the strongest filmographies in genre cinema.
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kiimo posted:I stumbled across a woman while high as gently caress in Joshua Tree playing a violin and it turned out she was in the LA Philharmonic. She was taking requests from people that were all standing around the fire and I requested Last of the Mohicans and she played the whole incredible thing, it went on for like twenty minutes. I cried and I wasn't alone. Would have sounded better on viola
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Mar 2, 2018 02:16
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You are much better off watching Warren Oates in John Milius' 1973 movie Dilinger, which features Harry Dean Stanton and Richard Dreyfuss as Baby Face Nelson. If loving owns. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYdevwhzPJs
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kiimo posted:I stumbled across a woman while high as gently caress in Joshua Tree playing a violin and it turned out she was in the LA Philharmonic. She was taking requests from people that were all standing around the fire and I requested Last of the Mohicans and she played the whole incredible thing, it went on for like twenty minutes. I cried and I wasn't alone. Oh yeah, Promontory. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT6DoaTdAGY
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married but discreet posted:Y'all need to watch some Manhunter. STRONG AS I AM there is something about this thing that haunts me
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:I think I've watched Miami Vice maybe twice as many times as all his other films put together; it's a wonderful hybrid of police procedural and revenge flick, and once again Mann's casting choices are loving prime. Gong Li just knocks it out of the park. Miami Vice is loving great and I hate it doesn't get the love it deserves. Also this is my semi annual comment on how amazing The Insider is and how goddamned snubbed it got for best picture.
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Wheat Loaf posted:How was the John Dillinger movie Mann did with Johnny Depp a few years ago? Extremely bad and horrific looking. Digital filmmaking at its worst.
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Snooze Cruise posted:STRONG AS I AM I mean, yeah, Mann has always worn his soundtrack choices on his sleeve. Heat and Miami Vice use Moby for gently caress's sake, but it somehow works (even better in MV in my own humble). BeanpolePeckerwood fucked around with this message at 08:44 on Mar 2, 2018 |
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Mar 2, 2018 08:22
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I've been binging the original Miami Vice tv series. It's pretty good. You can see Mann's influence (I know he was an executive producer and showrunner on it but don't know if he directed any episodes) very keenly in a few episodes. That bit from the pilot where Crockett and Tubbs are driving to confront Calderone with "In the Air Tonight" playing and all these loving shots of their Ferrari feels like a Mann touch. I will probably watch the movie eventually. Manhunter isn't as good as The Silence of the Lambs (that movie is great) but it's better than any of the other Hannibal movies. Definitely better than the Red Dragon remake with Hopkins as Lecter.
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Wheat Loaf posted:
Silence of the Lambs is great but it's a very different, almost alternate take on the source material, and I really feel like Brian Cox is a more compelling Lecter. That being said, Petersen's version of Will Graham is absolutely unbeatable. <<< spoilers obviously
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Wheat Loaf posted:I've been binging the original Miami Vice tv series. It's pretty good. You can see Mann's influence (I know he was an executive producer and showrunner on it but don't know if he directed any episodes) very keenly in a few episodes. I'm pretty sure the Hannibal tv show version of Will Graham was taken directly from Manhunter.
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The Hannibal TV show's adaptation of Red Dragon was amazing.
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Deakul posted:The Hannibal TV show's adaptation of Red Dragon was amazing. I got distracted like a squirrel before getting there. I should finish the season with Eddie Izzard and the rich crazies. I did think they wasted Lance Henriksen in his one episode, especially considering how much the show owed to Millennium.
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MonsieurChoc posted:I'm pretty sure the Hannibal tv show version of Will Graham was taken directly from Manhunter. The Manhunter section of Hannibal was pretty good, I'll have to rewatch that section sometime. I felt like that show had incredible production values but ended up spinning its wheels a bit too much, and at some point I just lost interest in Hugh Dancy's depiction of Graham...which I guess is the point.
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BonoMan posted:Miami Vice is loving great and I hate it doesn't get the love it deserves. Also this is my semi annual comment on how amazing The Insider is and how goddamned snubbed it got for best picture. I’m glad someone else loves this movie. It’s amazing
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I love Miami Vice if for no other reason that if you told someone that the same guy created both the 80's TV and the 2006 movie, they likely wouldn't believe you.
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bows1 posted:I’m glad someone else loves this movie. It’s amazing Agreed. I really feel like Miami Vice has some the best, if not the best, acting chemistry in any Mann film, and the supporting cast is great. I think there are even a few people from The Wire in there, too, which was mid-run at the time.
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The Miami Vice soundtrack is also super loving good.
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All aboard the Mann-train. So, is the director's cut of Manhunter better than the theatrical cut?
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Vagabundo posted:All aboard the Mann-train. Honestly, the differences between all the cuts of Manhunter are pretty minor, if I remember correctly. It's less a "seek out one particular cut" situation and more a "watch whatever cut's easily available" one. e: aren't there like, two or three "director's cuts" that are broadly similar but have little tweaks between them?
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:The Miami Vice soundtrack is also super loving good. "Auto Rock" is one hell of a tune to end a movie with. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLFd6k1BHDk
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Vagabundo posted:All aboard the Mann-train. The film has been mismanaged over the decades. I have the limited 2-disc DVD from a while back and I usually watch the theatrical cut, and even it somehow has an added scene or two from what I can tell. The director's cut (divimax cut) has more added scenes and at least one was cut... but they look bad to the point of distraction. Those scenes already looked out of place on the Director's cut DVD, but they're somehow still in presented in SD on the Bluray.
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:The film has been mismanaged over the decades. I have the limited 2-disc DVD from a while back and I usually watch the theatrical cut, and even it somehow has an added scene or two from what I can tell. yeah part of why I said what I said is that Manhunter's alternate cut situation is loving odd like, i don't think the actual original theatrical cut has ever been released outside of maybe VHS, pretty much every single version released on disc or streaming is an alternate cut of some form and every version has its own alternate cut with slight differences from what I understand. it's really not worth worrying about, just find a copy somehow and watch it and if something seems janky to you then hunt down a cut that doesn't have that janky bit and rewatch it. e: yeah, my memory slightly exaggerated the problem but to get the actual OG theatrical cut you have to import a copy from Japan or France and play it on a region-free player. the 2-disc set has a "theatrical cut" that's slightly off and a director's cut, there's single-disc theatrical cuts and director's cuts on DVD that are apparently both slightly different from the ones on the 2-disc set (despite being released by the same company  ), and apparently the Blu-Ray has its own weirdness with this and then the British releases are their own completely different cut of the movie.e2: apparently the Scream Factory release is the way to go and has both the original theatrical cut, minus weird changes, and the actual Mann-approved director's cut (rather than, from what I gather, essentially workprint versions on the Anchor Bay discs). but pretty much every release prior to that is going to be weird in some way or another. WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Mar 2, 2018 |
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:
This one, I assume https://www.amazon.com/Manhunter-Co...+scream+factory I wonder about this version because the cover is awesome https://www.amazon.com/Manhunter-Ha...nhunter+blu+ray
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yeah, I think the blu-ray you were referring to is the SF release I'm talking about- the director's cut is apparently a weird HD/upscaled SD hybrid on it because HD elements just straight up weren't available for a lot of the added scenes (which, I assume, is also why it's listed as a special feature and not a main one). e: also, that version is probably going to be the British cut, not either of the cuts we're familiar with. the change there is minor, but it's a really weird one: it doesn't have any censorship cuts like you'd ordinarily expect for a British version of a violent movie about a serial killer, but it cuts a scene that's just Will and his wife talking to each other, a little under an hour into the movie. WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Mar 2, 2018 |
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:I wonder about this version because the cover is awesome That's also the current UK dvd cover. The previous ones was striking enough in its own right: 
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:Agreed. I really feel like Miami Vice has some the best, if not the best, acting chemistry in any Mann film, and the supporting cast is great. I think there are even a few people from The Wire in there, too, which was mid-run at the time. Miami Vice and Collateral are my two favorite Mann films; they're just so loving good and atmospheric. The soundtracks on both couldn't be better, either.
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Bryce Dallas Howard sez Save The Dinosaurs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX8NZdZ3GMQ
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Okay but where is the video for people like me who want to hunt and murder the dinosaurs
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Taintrunner posted:Okay but where is the video for people like me who want to hunt and murder the dinosaurs Renowned big game hunter Chris Pratt is making it now.
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Hey, are you people fans of Oscar-nominated film Boss Baby? Netflix has you covered. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGNwOoWnOMw
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:Silence of the Lambs is great but it's a very different, almost alternate take on the source material, and I really feel like Brian Cox is a more compelling Lecter. I know we can't cry for white male actors not making it in Hollywood, but William Peterson was pretty good, at least he got paid doing CSI I guess.
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algebra testes posted:I know we can't cry for white male actors not making it in Hollywood, but William Peterson was pretty good, at least he got paid doing CSI I guess. William Peterson is so good, and hes the best part of that show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M0TR47b-UU
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algebra testes posted:I know we can't cry for white male actors not making it in Hollywood, but William Peterson was pretty good, at least he got paid doing CSI I guess. He was fantastic in To Live and Die in LA. One of my favorites.
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Wheat Loaf posted:That bit from the pilot where Crockett and Tubbs are driving to confront Calderone with "In the Air Tonight" playing and all these loving shots of their Ferrari feels like a Mann touch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&persist_app=1&noapp=1&v=6_NeqMAAsBk
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The MSJ posted:Hey, are you people fans of Oscar-nominated film Boss Baby? Netflix has you covered. Is that Will Arnett doing the voice?
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The MSJ posted:Hey, are you people fans of Oscar-nominated film Boss Baby? Netflix has you covered. I don't understand.
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Proteus Jones posted:He was fantastic in To Live and Die in LA. One of my favorites. One of the three William Friedkin movies I've seen along with The French connextion and The Exorcist.
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To live and die in LA is way underrated when it comes to 80's action movies and I'm not sure why. Too slow maybe? Weak characters? I love it though.
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