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Anime is just sharting out whatever now https://twitter.com/Thomasintokyo/status/725672231494279168/ Jackard fucked around with this message at 13:09 on Feb 27, 2018 |
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otoh we got fate//cooking and popteamepic this season anime sharting is a land of contrasts
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Why are Chinese webnovels almost always set in worlds that run on a system that is basically Social Darwinism? Even in traditional Confucian societies there is a basic obligation for the nobles to take care of the people who are under them, but in these novels everybody shits on people weaker than them without regard to loyalties. Kill someone in your clan who has a lower cultivation level and no powerful backer? They probably deserved it, and you'll get a slap on the wrist at most.
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Konstantin posted:Why are Chinese webnovels almost always set in worlds that run on a system that is basically Social Darwinism? Even in traditional Confucian societies there is a basic obligation for the nobles to take care of the people who are under them, but in these novels everybody shits on people weaker than them without regard to loyalties. Kill someone in your clan who has a lower cultivation level and no powerful backer? They probably deserved it, and you'll get a slap on the wrist at most. Because gently caress you I guess. Most MCs don't have connections either, so it's a driving force for them to grow into OP monsters that nobody can just kill when they feel like it, I suppose? Also, you can't have good people in charge. Good people exist to die so the protagonist has someone to mourn/avenge, obviously. Therefore, if everyone is evil (or at least pretty drat selfish), it's OK when the MC goes on murderous rampages and kills everyone.
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Mar 2, 2018 14:08
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Konstantin posted:Why are Chinese webnovels almost always set in worlds that run on a system that is basically Social Darwinism? Even in traditional Confucian societies there is a basic obligation for the nobles to take care of the people who are under them, but in these novels everybody shits on people weaker than them without regard to loyalties. Kill someone in your clan who has a lower cultivation level and no powerful backer? They probably deserved it, and you'll get a slap on the wrist at most. As far as I can tell this isn't unique to webnovels and predates them by a fair amount. Some old kung fu movies have something similar.
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Mar 2, 2018 18:21
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Chronische posted:Because gently caress you I guess. Most MCs don't have connections either, so it's a driving force for them to grow into OP monsters that nobody can just kill when they feel like it, I suppose? the MC is usually way more evil than the people he's murdering though like he'll melt the entire city because a starving orphan stole one of his spirit carrots or whatever e: that's why I want to see a Xianxia Villager series, ordinary people having to deal with rear end in a top hat daoists stealing the sun or refining their dog into a powerful magical treasure sounds amazing Yinlock fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Mar 2, 2018 |
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Mar 2, 2018 20:37
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it's an exaggerated version of reality. no matter what confucianism says, the people above oppress those below. that's just how stratified societies work, though the severity of the oppression can of course vary. the problem isn't that someone is abusing their authority, but rather that that someone isn't the mc. murder hobo wn's are power fantasies, but that those fantasies never have the invincible and often immortal demigod protagonists reform an innately un-just society even though it is often totally within their capabilities. the fantasy is about wealth, power and authority for their own sake because that's seen as something to aspire to. revenge and such only provide an excuse.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:it's an exaggerated version of reality. no matter what confucianism says, the people above oppress those below. that's just how stratified societies work, though the severity of the oppression can of course vary. the problem isn't that someone is abusing their authority, but rather that that someone isn't the mc. it probably also plays into the obsession with luck and how luck is somehow an enviable virtue part of why cultivation chat group rules is that the daoist sect that's all about murder and death and typical xianxia poo poo is shattered and in hiding because everyone teamed up and stomped their poo poo in for being evil they still kill each-other when they need to(because daoists are notoriously hard to kill and stubborn so it's better to end fights decisively) but the general rule is to keep normies out of it at the very least
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Mar 2, 2018 20:43
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Konstantin posted:Why are Chinese webnovels almost always set in worlds that run on a system that is basically Social Darwinism? Even in traditional Confucian societies there is a basic obligation for the nobles to take care of the people who are under them, but in these novels everybody shits on people weaker than them without regard to loyalties. Kill someone in your clan who has a lower cultivation level and no powerful backer? They probably deserved it, and you'll get a slap on the wrist at most. The Korean webtoon Tower of God (which I read before knowing anything about xianxia, though I'm way behind on it) has a setting like this too, and at the time I thought it was meant as a sort of commentary on what the author saw as the excessive competitiveness of modern South Korean society. I suppose Chinese xianxia stories are similar, except that the social commentary is unintentional.
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Mar 2, 2018 21:21
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It's not like traditional Confucian society was anything but incredibly idealistic.
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Mar 2, 2018 21:33
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I pretty much skip anything Chinese aside from Cultivation Chat Group. The writing and setting feels impenetrable, their dao is too strong or something
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Mar 3, 2018 02:53
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Jackard posted:I pretty much skip anything Chinese aside from Cultivation Chat Group. The writing and setting feels impenetrable, their dao is too strong or something My Disciple Died Yet Again is pretty good but it's also explicitly subverting a lot of genre staples, both xianxia and more general webnovel stuff.
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Mar 3, 2018 02:59
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Jackard posted:I pretty much skip anything Chinese aside from Cultivation Chat Group. The writing and setting feels impenetrable, their dao is too strong or something just read any 10 chapters of anything Er Gen writes and you'll be able to get all of this thread's weird cultivation injokes instantly
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Mar 3, 2018 03:34
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Yinlock posted:just read any 10 chapters of anything Er Gen writes and you'll be able to get all of this thread's weird cultivation injokes instantly Don't be absurd. Explanations of such terms are as rare as kirin horns or phoenix feathers! Cultivation terms might be different (Qi condensation, core formation, ect), but the general idea are pretty much the same. Dudes flying around on swords (or without them), battling with things from thousands of floating blades to a magical taoist compass to throwing suns at each other, usually getting more powerful by seizing legacies or cultivation materials from other people, and all acting like giant assholes.
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Mar 3, 2018 04:13
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Chronische posted:Dudes flying around on swords (or without them), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96WFtOOj8G8
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Mar 3, 2018 04:38
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I've read a few of the better regarded Chinese web novels from this topic but I still think Ze Tian Ji handles the cultivation stuff much better than pretty much any of them.
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Mar 3, 2018 04:43
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Chronische posted:Don't be absurd. Explanations of such terms are as rare as kirin horns or phoenix feathers! also absolutely everything has an insanely elaborate name a standard d&d fireball wand would be called a Master Sun Phoenix Inferno Scepter
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Mar 3, 2018 04:55
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my introduction to the concept was probably the id manga. most of it was taken up by id throwing out these ridiculous giant attacks with correspondingly ridiculous giant names, with few repeats. when i found out it was based on a wn, i was very confused because how could a story that was 99% about a flashy visual spectacle be conveyed via text alone? based on other webnovels, i suspect the answer is 'poorly'.
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Mar 3, 2018 05:09
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Jackard posted:I pretty much skip anything Chinese aside from Cultivation Chat Group. The writing and setting feels impenetrable, their dao is too strong or something Same. Plus I can never tell if characters are supposed to be male or female unless they have an explicit description in text. Foreign naming conventions 
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Mar 3, 2018 07:00
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How come terrible murder hobo novels get translated for thousands of chapters while the chill DnD wizard novel gets nothing?
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Mar 3, 2018 08:33
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https://www.novelupdates.com/series/the-wizard-raised-through-trpg-is-still-the-strongest-in-the-other-world/ is the chill DnD wizard novel for reference.
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Mar 3, 2018 08:33
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Now this sounds like my jam
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Mar 3, 2018 08:56
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drilldo squirt posted:How come terrible murder hobo novels get translated for thousands of chapters while the chill DnD wizard novel gets nothing? are people constantly astonished at chill dnd wizard's profound cultivation base, i think not
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Mar 3, 2018 09:04
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dnd is lame and ruthlessly killing people and fantasy monsters is extremely cool
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drilldo squirt posted:https://www.novelupdates.com/series/the-wizard-raised-through-trpg-is-still-the-strongest-in-the-other-world/ is the chill DnD wizard novel for reference.  this translator has never heard of John Carter. Too much time reading weeb novels!
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Mar 3, 2018 11:28
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Yinlock posted:are people constantly astonished at chill dnd wizard's profound cultivation base, i think not They are all very astonished at his knowledge of DnD wizard lore.
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drilldo squirt posted:https://www.novelupdates.com/series/the-wizard-raised-through-trpg-is-still-the-strongest-in-the-other-world/ is the chill DnD wizard novel for reference. You might enjoy Two Year Emperor (if you feel like buying it afterwards). It's not perfect, but it's entertaining enough. It's about a D&D nerd who gets sucked into a fantasy world, which works by very strict D&D-rules-as-physics, by a summoning ritual by people trying to find someone who'll save their kingdom from multiple grievous threats - which he does by blatant munchkinry and rule exploits. Megazver fucked around with this message at 11:58 on Mar 3, 2018 |
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DisDisDis posted:dnd is lame and ruthlessly killing people and fantasy monsters is extremely cool I've never played dnd but if it's anything like being very bad at baldur's gate I am forced to disagree with you.
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Megazver posted:You might enjoy Two Year Emperor (if you feel like buying it afterwards). It's not perfect, but it's entertaining enough. Does he deal with anime nonsense by being a DnD wizard?
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Mar 3, 2018 11:59
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drilldo squirt posted:Does he deal with anime nonsense by being a DnD wizard? It's written by an American, so few cringe moments aren't anime-related.
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chill dnd wizard isn't particularly special, but it's not terrible either which puts it above a lot of other webnovels. hell i'll read it, my time isn't precious he does have the insanely unfortunate title of "grand wizard" though
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Mar 4, 2018 04:16
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I want someone to write a wn about whoever the truck driver is who goes around mowing down all these japanese teens and sending them to generic fantasy land
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Bakanogami posted:I want someone to write a wn about whoever the truck driver is who goes around mowing down all these japanese teens and sending them to generic fantasy land I thought there was one about a self-aware Truck-kun that was tasked with exactly that.
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Mar 8, 2018 08:34
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Apparently there's an issue with Chinese Qidian and all the scraper sites isn't updating because of it. Hopefully they fix it soon, because there's no way in hell I'm getting a membership to it.
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Mar 8, 2018 14:38
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Novelupdates seems to be seeing Qidian series fine.
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I'm talking about China's site, not the English Qidian. Cultivation Chat Group hasn't updated on the scraper site I use because of this.
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Mar 8, 2018 17:48
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If ZTJ is putting the gang back together, Luo Luo better be a part of it. 
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Read through Library of Heaven's Path, mostly because it's No.1 on the Novel Updates rankings. It's fun, quite similar to A Will Eternal in that the protagonist is a mostly good-natured trickster, with a few amusing character flaws, who engages in constant shenanigans and always come out on top due to how insanely OP his Mandatory Special Cheating Trick is.
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Autonomous Monster posted:If ZTJ is putting the gang back together, Luo Luo better be a part of it. Sindai fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Mar 9, 2018 |
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Megazver posted:Read through Library of Heaven's Path, mostly because it's No.1 on the Novel Updates rankings. It's fun, quite similar to A Will Eternal in that the protagonist is a mostly good-natured trickster, with a few amusing character flaws, who engages in constant shenanigans and always come out on top due to how insanely OP his Mandatory Special Cheating Trick is. Library of Heaven's Path is nicer than most because his main thing is being a teacher so he has some people around he is helping and isn't just constantly an rear end in a top hat to everyone.
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