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The human royal dynasty is named "Trollbane" and they first met the trolls when the humans were helping the high elves defend the city they'd built on top of a sacred troll ruin, so yeah, humans and trolls don't get along at all.
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For reference, this is what happened in the Troll Wars.
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Mar 3, 2018 05:25
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That looks less like a war and more like a slaughter.
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Mar 3, 2018 05:30
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lobster22221 posted:That looks less like a war and more like a slaughter. It was. Elves taught humans magic specifically so things like that would happen.  The first human king killed so drat many trolls that in WoW, troll NPCs instinctively freak the gently caress out when they see the king's sword and run away because countless of their ancestors were killed by that blade. The Amani Empire was destroyed by the early humans, and the human kingdoms of Lordaeron, Dalaran, and Stromgarde built on its ashes. The original inhabitants of the lands that became Stormwind, Kul Tiras, and Alterac didn't fare any better, in case you were wondering. Only the peninsula of Gilneas seems to have been generally uninhabited and unclaimed when humans arrived, save for some ancient outposts of a disappeared race that the human settlers largely avoided.
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Mar 3, 2018 05:39
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I'm always learning something new about Warcraft lore. It rightfully has a reputation as retconny and silly, but there is also pretty cool stuff in there as well. Either that or it is all about how you have it explained to you.
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Mar 3, 2018 07:12
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lobster22221 posted:I'm always learning something new about Warcraft lore. It rightfully has a reputation as retconny and silly, but there is also pretty cool stuff in there as well. It's a bit of both. Warcraft Lore runs the gamut for legitimately amazing and narmy as all hell to terrible and awkward. There's a particular recurring subject that thankfully never shows up in this game, but was in Warcraft 2 and shows up far more than it should in WoW.
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Mar 3, 2018 07:24
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..... Is it the dragon rape?
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Mar 3, 2018 08:05
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It is indeed, and by far more I mean at all, because Dragon Rape should not have become a part of WoW at all, and yet here we are.
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Mar 3, 2018 08:27
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Cythereal posted:The first human king killed so drat many trolls that in WoW, troll NPCs instinctively freak the gently caress out when they see the king's sword and run away because countless of their ancestors were killed by that blade. Not a joke - Arms warriors in Legion acquired the weapon "Strom'kar the Warbreaker", and it has a passive, hidden effect that's not mentioned anywhere on the weapon, and doesn't come up in current content because Trolls aren't involved in Legion: Nearby troll NPCs get afflicted with a Fear effect that lasts two minutes.
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Mar 3, 2018 09:15
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Fun fact: Trolls can also be Arms warriors and obtain that sword.
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Mar 3, 2018 09:28
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Xenocides posted:I was more curious who was hiring mercenaries before the humans showed up so that they are even around looking for work in the frozen north in the middle of nowhere? Do the Nerubians hire Mercs to fight the Dreadlords and the Undead?
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lobster22221 posted:I'm always learning something new about Warcraft lore. It rightfully has a reputation as retconny and silly, but there is also pretty cool stuff in there as well. Northrend, incidentally, is the true homeland of the humans. The progenitors of the human race are a race of ten foot tall viking giants native to these parts - the vrykul in their colonies in the Eastern Kingdoms died out but their human descendants live on.
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Mar 3, 2018 14:30
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Cythereal posted:Northrend, incidentally, is the true homeland of the humans. The progenitors of the human race are a race of ten foot tall viking giants native to these parts - the vrykul in their colonies in the Eastern Kingdoms died out but their human descendants live on. I think I remember hearing this and dwarves being being that had the curse of flesh. edit: looking it up, looks like both humans, dwarves, and other races had it? More edit: Mechagnomes are apparently a thing. The wiki then lead me to learn of mechanostriders, which look like mechanical chocobos. My respect for WoW lore has increased with this beautiful knowledge. lobster22221 fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Mar 3, 2018 |
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Mar 3, 2018 14:50
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lobster22221 posted:More edit: Mechagnomes are apparently a thing. The wiki then lead me to learn of mechanostriders, which look like mechanical chocobos. My respect for WoW lore has increased with this beautiful knowledge. You may also be interested in one of the other racial mounts, which is literally a chocobo. Yeah, humans, dwarves and gnomes are all descended from mechanical golems created by the Titans, struck by the curse of flesh that... well, turned them to flesh. Hyper Crab Tank fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Mar 3, 2018 |
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Mar 3, 2018 22:03
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So... they're all Bicentennial Man. But through a curse rather than voluntary alteration. Man this franchise is weird.
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I mean, just in the next expansion of WoW alone, we're set to see bipedal snake people, sentient fox people, and upright talking turtles. And that's not getting into the walking talking koi fish, or the man-sized mantises. The weirdness of all the various races on Azeroth is just par for the course at this point.
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Warcraft lore is simultaneously amazing and extremely dumb. I wouldn't have it any other way.
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Mar 4, 2018 02:10
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And of course let's not forget that the planet of Azeroth is itself sentient - and female. The king of all demons literally wants to bone Azeroth's soul.
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SirSamVimes posted:Warcraft lore is simultaneously amazing and extremely dumb. I wouldn't have it any other way. Considering wc1 was planned to be a warhammer game, it really is amazing how far it has come. I think. (Insert joke about pauldron sizes)
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Cythereal posted:Northrend, incidentally, is the true homeland of the humans. The progenitors of the human race are a race of ten foot tall viking giants native to these parts - the vrykul in their colonies in the Eastern Kingdoms died out but their human descendants live on. Ten foot tall vikings that turn into seaweed half the time. Basically Giants had deformed babies that turned into Vrykul... who (via curse of Flesh) had deformed babies that became Humanity. Also, The Norse afterlife is a thing, and you fight in it and beat up Odin. As is Cthulu, (named C'thun, destroyer of Raids) Also https://wow.gamepedia.com/Epicus_Maximus
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I'm not satisfied unless it can summon cyclones and create illusions/duplicates of the shark
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lobster22221 posted:I'm not satisfied unless it can summon cyclones and create illusions/duplicates of the shark the guitarist actually attacks you by rocking out and sending sound waves that one shot you if you don't dodge them. is this acceptable?
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lobster22221 posted:Considering wc1 was planned to be a warhammer game, it really is amazing how far it has come. I think. (Insert joke about pauldron sizes)
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AradoBalanga posted:Wait, I thought Starcraft was going to be the Totally Not A Warhammer Game. Not really? The company were fans of the product. https://kotaku.com/5929161/how-warcraft-was-almost-a-warhammer-game-and-how-that-saved-wow The urban legend that I remember hearing once upon a time, was that Warcraft started life under license as a Warhammer game, but GW pulled out last second forcing a retool. The above linked article refutes that, and also links to an article from one of the original developers/producers. The explanation basically amounts to "We were fans, and it influenced us. But we didn't want to do licensing due to previous experiences."
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Calax posted:Not really? The company were fans of the product.
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I'd heard the StarCraft - WH40k connection too. The Zerg look very much like Tyranids, and the humans certainly do resemble Space Marines... and the Protoss are kinda-sorta Eldar? WarCraft though is just humans and orcs. Could be Warhammer, considering the era it started in. I mean, Dune II isn't a very good representation of the novels, aside from copying the names of the factions, and the spice.
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painedforever posted:I'd heard the StarCraft - WH40k connection too. The Zerg look very much like Tyranids, and the humans certainly do resemble Space Marines... and the Protoss are kinda-sorta Eldar? From what I've heard, there was some mutual ripping off. Like, before Starcraft the Tyranids looked pretty different but then after Starcraft they got redesigned to what they look like now. There's also the fact that both of them were heavily influenced by Giger's Xenomorph.
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Calax posted:As is Cthulu, (named C'thun, destroyer of Raids) C'thun was actually released busted as gently caress because Blizzard didn't think anyone would reach him. A lot of the vanilla raids are kind of like that. He was literally impossible when he was first put into the game. He's not the destroyer of raids though, that title goes to Algalon the Raid Destroy, he feeds on your tears. Algalon was the bonus secret boss of Ulduar, which is the first true Titan Raid in WoW. It involved fighting a bunch of Robot Fake Norse Gods with names like Thorim and Mimiron. After you do that you fight Yogg'Saron, an Old God of Death, and if you did the hard modes of everything you unlocked Algalon. Who is a creation of the Titans who travels between worlds they've shaped and checks for Old God Corruption, if things are too corrupted he activates the Re-Origination Device on the planet, which resets the planet to it's factory setting the Titans Shaped it to. The fight happens because he decides to do this, and you and your raid team decide to beat him up until he changes his mind.
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Update probably won't happen today or probably not even this week. I'm currently suffering from a nasty cold and am not very good for doing much at the moment beyond watching overly verbose youtube videos dissecting no mans sky. Once I'm no longer coughing myself to death and can breathe semi normally, the Human campaign will reach its conclusion.
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DoubleNegative posted:Update probably won't happen today or probably not even this week. I'm currently suffering from a nasty cold and am not very good for doing much at the moment beyond watching overly verbose youtube videos dissecting no mans sky. DUN DUN DUNNNN!
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DoubleNegative posted:Update probably won't happen today or probably not even this week. I'm currently suffering from a nasty cold and am not very good for doing much at the moment beyond watching overly verbose youtube videos dissecting no mans sky. HE HAD THE PLAGUE! HE MUST BE PURGED FOR THE SAFETY OF HUMANITY!
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Seriously though, take it as easy as you need to. Being sick sucks and we all hope you get better soon.
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Siegkrow posted:HE HAD THE PLAGUE! HE MUST BE PURGED FOR THE SAFETY OF HUMANITY! Soon he will become the undead. Better he die at our hands now than suffer such a fate.
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HEAL! HEAL!!!! What, do I need to be as foolishly self-confident as Arthas or Trump for this to work? Seriously, I enjoy your LP and hope you come back soon.
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I BRING FORTH NEWS
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Nice job, Siegkrow! Is that canon game text or did you write it yourself? If the latter, good job, I better understand Arthas's thinking now. I still wouldn't like doing as he did personally, but maybe I'd do it now too. Heh.
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Oh it is canon, it is part of the Warcraft Chronicles volume 3 preview. BTW, do ya have a btag?
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Kudos to the Warcraft Chronicles writers then. What is a btag? No, I probably don't.
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Your WoW battle tag. If you play WoW (or any blizzard game) you have one.
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Ah, I see. I have played Diablo 3 and Warcraft 1-3, also StarCraft 1 and 2, but I'm not sure if I have a Blizzard tag or what it is if I do. I probably do have one somewhere- I have played Diablo 3 with every class but Necromancer (game was too boring for me when that expansion came out, oh well)- I just couldn't tell you what it is. Sorry.
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