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rjmccall posted:prolonged american peace (gulf war aside)
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the persian gulf war is easy to forget, and that's exactly my point. it didn't leave much of a cultural mark; i remember the news showing rocket streaks in a dark sky, and burning oil fields, but then it was over. there were very few american casualties and the fighting was done with in less than six weeks like sure, reagan sent troops to a bunch of places, and clinton shot off a lot of rockets and sent troops to a bunch of other places. i'm not claiming that america is like a peaceful country. i'm saying that none of it was culturally significant in the same way as the iraq war has been, or as viet nam was
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Mar 4, 2018 09:41
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rjmccall posted:the persian gulf war is easy to forget, and that's exactly my point. it didn't leave much of a cultural mark  https://youtu.be/QBgC87AHtHk lol. i also just remembered desert storm trading cards. “trade you two george bushes for a scud!” President Beep fucked around with this message at 12:28 on Mar 4, 2018 |
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Mar 4, 2018 12:22
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Caganer posted:just look up boomer on Wikipedia oh hey it’s fishmech junior welcome to yospos, don’t quote stymie and fishmech has the Wikipedia beat pretty well covered he’s America’s smartest kid and all
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Mar 4, 2018 13:05
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FrozenVent posted:he’s America’s smartest kid and all literally
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Mar 4, 2018 14:18
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got a certificate and everything
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Mar 4, 2018 14:35
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betteridge's law continues batting 1000
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Mar 4, 2018 15:30
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Stymie posted:no, that was mostly those in the "greatest generation" or the following silent generation, who were largely monstrous shits (and are frequently mistaken for boomers) The silent generation were all at least 38 and the boomers were between 10 and 27 in 1970. Unless you're saying it was people who weren't college students doing this I don't see how that makes sense.
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Mar 4, 2018 15:32
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gen x is and always has been really bad though
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Mar 4, 2018 15:34
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rjmccall posted:the standard definition of millenials is literally based around 2000AD just to make the name seem better. a more sensible definition would be the people who were teenagers in that late-80s to early-00s late/post-cold-war but pre-mass-social-media era, kids who've probably grown up with video games or computers, suburb fatigue, prolonged american peace (gulf war aside), economic stability, and a sort of resurgence of mass culture (that dates a bit earlier but what can you do). these are people for whom 9/11 and the iraq war and eventually the financial crisis felt like a reversal, like the quiet sense of progress had come apart in some significant way. but again that group gets thrown in with a bunch of kids who've basically known nothing else and who've grown up in a world where an online social life is just this tremendously important thing i like "young enough to have always had personal computers around (in school, library, home w/e) but old enough to remember the era before the internet consumed all that was good"
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Mar 4, 2018 15:47
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i thought it roughly went boomers 45-65, X was 65-85, millennial from 85-05, and whatever the current generation is started in 05. also  at stymie and people still getting stymied in tyool 2018. today’s stymieing was vintage 2012.
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Mar 4, 2018 16:05
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ate all the Oreos posted:i like "young enough to have always had personal computers around (in school, library, home w/e) but old enough to remember the era before the internet consumed all that was good" How about "old enough to remember when olds wrote in disgust about how lazy and entitled we are, they used the term 'Generation Y'" Seriously, I was born in 1985, I don't feel I have much in common with someone born nearer to 2000, who has grown up with the internet as a constant presence. Looks like some people are using the term "Generation Z" for these people, but to an old I guess its tempting to lump us all together.
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Mar 4, 2018 16:13
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FrozenVent posted:oh hey it’s fishmech junior whenever i wonder what to think i look at wikipedia even if it's wrong, going against millions of people and telling them they're "wrong" will just end with all the townsfolk outside holding pitchforks, so it's best to just go with the flow also i was hoping i could derail stymie into a tangent on wikipedia's reliability
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Mar 4, 2018 16:17
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Bladerunner 2019 looking good
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Mar 4, 2018 16:18
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dude leave that poo poo to the pros
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Mar 4, 2018 16:19
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whole lotta shameful stymiequoting in here
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Mar 4, 2018 16:40
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Mr. Nice! posted:i thought it roughly went boomers 45-65, X was 65-85, millennial from 85-05, and whatever the current generation is started in 05. millennials are people who "came of age in the new millennium", so 80-ish to early 90s (aka gen-y). kids currently in high school are not millennials, they're "generation z" or something like that.
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Mar 4, 2018 16:43
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:whole lotta shameful stymiequoting in here
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Mar 4, 2018 16:45
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https://twitter.com/pewresearch/status/969287050737446912?s=21
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Mar 4, 2018 16:46
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you should use that cite to edit it into wikipedia so we know it's true
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Mar 4, 2018 16:48
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TimWinter posted:Quietly adding "bonuses" to the pile of things that the bright and young of the next generation should expect to be gone by the time they enter the job market. theyve been going awhile for a long while now, its just the companies are tired of the complaints which is why theyve started offering rewards points instead
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Mar 4, 2018 17:04
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my favorite bonus story is when oldjob told everyone that we weren’t getting bonuses because business was doing too well see we had more sales than planned so we busted the production budget so no bonuses
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Mar 4, 2018 17:10
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FrozenVent posted:my favorite bonus story is when oldjob told everyone that we weren’t getting bonuses because business was doing too well some A+ management right there.
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Mar 4, 2018 17:12
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lol that's some fantastic incentivizing right there
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Mar 4, 2018 17:13
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Mar 4, 2018 17:14
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if it helps i blew my posting budget on that. jk. my posting budget is very well funded
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Mar 4, 2018 17:24
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President Beep posted:if it helps i blew my posting budget on that. i, too, have a high fiber diet.
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Mar 4, 2018 17:37
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Stymie posted:fishmech, i know it's hard for you to accept that generation x and millennials are very bad but the worst part is you don't have to believe me, the truth will out in the years to come So stymie how old do you think boomers are now? rjmccall posted:
So are you not aware that your definition of "millennial" here is pretty much gen x plus a small bit of the actual millennials because lol my dude. ate all the Oreos posted:i like "young enough to have always had personal computers around (in school, library, home w/e) but old enough to remember the era before the internet consumed all that was good" That's not really an era that exists, ubiquitous computing postdates the internet being huge
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Mar 4, 2018 18:09
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Mr. Nice! posted:i thought it roughly went boomers 45-65, X was 65-85, millennial from 85-05, and whatever the current generation is started in 05. The millennials window keeps changing. I was born in 1980 and I remember nightly news segments in the late nineties talking about us millennials and what a bright future we had. since then the window keeps moving because "millennial" means "dumb kid I don't like" now. I figure boomers are 46-64, GenX 64-79, millennials 80-96 or so.
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Mar 4, 2018 18:14
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age cohorts is a dumb as gently caress concept and i cannot believe yall still take it seriously or even ever did
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Mar 4, 2018 18:16
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Krankenstyle posted:age cohorts is a dumb as gently caress concept and i cannot believe yall still take it seriously or even ever did It's useful to take the 1980 and up group as a cohort because they share one very important thing, getting hosed over by their parents economically.
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Mar 4, 2018 18:18
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rjmccall posted:the persian gulf war is easy to forget, and that's exactly my point. it didn't leave much of a cultural mark; i remember the news showing rocket streaks in a dark sky, and burning oil fields, but then it was over. there were very few american casualties and the fighting was done with in less than six weeks i appreciate your correct spelling of viet nam
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Mar 4, 2018 18:19
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:I was born in 1980 holy poo poo Methuselah
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Mar 4, 2018 18:24
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FrozenVent posted:my favorite bonus story is when oldjob told everyone that we weren’t getting bonuses because business was doing too well i would have loudly said, 'i quit' right then and there and walked out the door because holy poo poo
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Mar 4, 2018 18:26
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my point is that 'millennial' isn't a cohort anymore, it's just a slur old people use to slag on kids they don't like.
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Mar 4, 2018 18:26
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palantir implemented algorithmic racism in nola
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Mar 4, 2018 18:27
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Krankenstyle posted:age cohorts is a dumb as gently caress concept and i cannot believe yall still take it seriously or even ever did i know i'm definitely seeing points raised that certainly haven't been brought up the last six times yospos decided to argue about it. educational all around.
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Mar 4, 2018 18:28
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in thirty years, people who are currently being called "millennials" are going to bitch about the millennials and how they're stupid and ruining everything.
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Mar 4, 2018 18:29
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at least no one is saying gen y anymore, that was a dumb label
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Mar 4, 2018 18:54
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duz posted:at least no one is saying gen y anymore, that was a dumb label ive been seeing gen z here and there.
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