The Linux Questions Thread: a bunch of pitfalls, but technically it's possible

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Mr Shiny Pants: Nov 12, 2012

It is really good actually, I did like the Manjaro KDE having a Q3 like console when you press F12.

So in my ongoing adventures, I got OSX running on my ThreadRipper today using KVM. That went pretty well all things considered.

GPU passthrough is proving to be a pain in the rear end though, I am trying to put my GTX660 in a Windows VM but no luck so far.

I don't even get to see the Tianocore output on the second monitor, let alone an error 43.

Well since I don't seem to give up easily, I got it to work.

My GTX660 had an old crappy bios on it, that did not support UEFI, so after figuring out nvflash and a bios from techpowerup, setting the it to overwrite with a different PCI_ID and removing the write protection from the EEPROM I could successfully flash it to UEFI mode.

gently caress Asus for making their utility only work on Asus mobo's.

Using the little Java tool someone wrote that writes back the PCI state after a device reset, I now have GPU passthrough working on my 1950X.

Mr Shiny Pants fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Mar 2, 2018

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# ? May 31, 2024 15:48

AgentCow007: May 20, 2004; TITLE TEXT

I always get a broken icon like the one on the left when I start up ElementaryOS... when I click on it, the context menu is empty and there's no way to close it. How do I go about investigating what this is from, or how to get rid of it? Google didn't help because I'm not sure how to describe it well.

Also if anyone knows any good channels on Youtube for intermediate/advanced stuff I'd love some recommendations. I wanna see some bad-rear end terminal stuff I can't do with Windows, but for some reason all the videos I find are just noobs espousing the open source manifesto or distro hopping.

# ? Mar 2, 2018 22:06

HPL: Aug 28, 2002; Worst case scenario.

Ugh. I did some deeper troubleshooting and it looks like the motherboard is the problem. I wish it was the video card, that would have been easy.

# ? Mar 3, 2018 01:57

HPL: Aug 28, 2002; Worst case scenario.

Aaaand after further troubleshooting, looks like it actually is the video card.

I guess I shouldn't have jumped the gun on that eBay order. It'll be good having a backup motherboard, right?

# ? Mar 3, 2018 02:12

xzzy: Mar 5, 2009

Yeah, gently caress diagnosing motherboards.

I once pissed off gigabyte with a couple RMA's because I was sooooo sure they were sending me broken hardware. It ended up being a bad dimm but the error blinks on the motherboard's leds pointed at the mb. :downs:

# ? Mar 3, 2018 02:26

HPL: Aug 28, 2002; Worst case scenario.

I guess the upshot is that I can now report that I am up and running on an old temporary Nvidia Quadro card, even without a driver install. OpenSUSE booted up fine and I'm running at the proper resolution and things look fine. Running Day of Infamy is a slideshow, but I expected that. Onwards and upwards.

# ? Mar 3, 2018 02:40

iospace: Jan 19, 2038

Is there anyway to make a non-console program raise urgency?

# ? Mar 3, 2018 07:22

RFC2324: Jun 7, 2012; http 418

iospace posted:

Is there anyway to make a non-console program raise urgency?

You mean renice something from inside the gui? I know the kde task manage will do that.

# ? Mar 3, 2018 07:28

McGiggins: Apr 4, 2014; by R. Guyovich; Lipstick Apathy

Can i ask beginner questions about compiling PCSX reARMed itt? Trying to learn how to use my rpi 3b but am super lost.

I'm new at this whole "compile your own software, peasant" sort of thing, and am having difficulty following instructions that fail for reasons i cannot divine.

# ? Mar 3, 2018 09:49

Cardiac: Aug 28, 2012

So anyone know a workaround for having VNC working with NVIDIA drivers on a Centos7 machine?

I had a decent VNC setup for a machine that was only supposed to be used for processing or remote work. But then my boss decided that computer could be used by someone working here temporarily. Which was not perfect, but worked fine with him as another user than the main. He then complains due one software working like crap with the nouveau drivers, so I install NVIDIA drivers and down went the VNC.

I tried different DEs (gnome, kde, xfce) and VNCs but no luck. Apparently this is a known issue with no clear solution.

# ? Mar 3, 2018 12:24

Boris Galerkin: Dec 17, 2011; I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

McGiggins posted:

Can i ask beginner questions about compiling PCSX reARMed itt? Trying to learn how to use my rpi 3b but am super lost.

I'm new at this whole "compile your own software, peasant" sort of thing, and am having difficulty following instructions that fail for reasons i cannot divine.

There�s also a RPi thread here in SHSC, but RPis run Linux so sure ask away.

e: You�ll need to tell us step by step what you�re doing.

Boris Galerkin fucked around with this message at 13:31 on Mar 3, 2018

# ? Mar 3, 2018 13:28

MrPablo: Mar 21, 2003

G-Prime posted:

...Okay, that's kinda amazing. I don't know how I missed that in reviews. Might be my new target. Thanks for calling that out!

Edit: After doing some research, the X1 Yoga appears to have very poor Linux support. Back to the drawing board.

I've been running Debian on my Skylake X1 Yoga for two years. Other than the fingerprint reader, everything works fine.

There were some issues with power management initially, but those have been resolved for quite a while.

# ? Mar 3, 2018 14:50

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Cardiac posted:

So anyone know a workaround for having VNC working with NVIDIA drivers on a Centos7 machine?

I had a decent VNC setup for a machine that was only supposed to be used for processing or remote work. But then my boss decided that computer could be used by someone working here temporarily. Which was not perfect, but worked fine with him as another user than the main. He then complains due one software working like crap with the nouveau drivers, so I install NVIDIA drivers and down went the VNC.

I tried different DEs (gnome, kde, xfce) and VNCs but no luck. Apparently this is a known issue with no clear solution.

https://serverfault.com/a/898266

Might have luck with VirtualGL

# ? Mar 3, 2018 14:51

G-Prime: Apr 30, 2003; Baby, when it's love,
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MrPablo posted:

I've been running Debian on my Skylake X1 Yoga for two years. Other than the fingerprint reader, everything works fine.

There were some issues with power management initially, but those have been resolved for quite a while.

Admittedly, my research on this was relatively quick. Dug through the ThinkWiki entry for Fedora on it (turns out that was for F25, which is old enough that much of that information is likely inaccurate), as well as several other threads and posts. Are there any weird things like the touchscreen not working with multitouch? And does the trackpad properly disable in tablet mode? Those I think are the biggest concerns. WWAN would be a nice-to-have, but I can tether my phone if I have to. Does suspend and hibernate work, also?

# ? Mar 3, 2018 15:00

iospace: Jan 19, 2038

RFC2324 posted:

You mean renice something from inside the gui? I know the kde task manage will do that.

Nah, I mean an urgency flag. I'm using xmonad because it's what I'm used to from my prior Arch use, but I'm trying to get the taskbar I'm using to highlight the window that, say, Discord has a notification for me. I know you can do it via urgency, but I have yet to figure out how to make Discord do that.

# ? Mar 3, 2018 17:52

Suspicious Dish: Sep 24, 2011; 2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro; Fun Shoe

The standard way that's done is with the _NET_WM_STATE_DEMANDS_ATTENTION flag on _NET_WM_STATE. See the EWMH spec. xdotool might have a way of changing an app's state and perhaps setting the demands-attention flag?

# ? Mar 3, 2018 18:25

GobiasIndustries: Dec 14, 2007; Lipstick Apathy

I've got an old Dell Inspiron Mini 10v sitting around (1.6ghz Atom processor, 2 gigs of ram, 250gb hard drive) that I'd like to find some sort of use for, maybe a local webserver or something? Since the specs are obviously extremely uninspiring, I'm looking for something very lightweight. Looking around, it seems like Lubuntu would be one of the better options?

# ? Mar 3, 2018 19:57

Brownie: Jul 21, 2007; The Croatian Sensation

I've been using Fedora 26 on my Dell XPS for the last year or so and have encountered many problems. I can't use the Nvidia card since I've been using Wayland instead of X11, but X11 seems to have issues itself (Sublime Text is very slow and freezes up for some reason). Additionally, it restarts on wakeup about 94% of the time, and during startup/shutdown I see a ton of logged error/warning messages.

I am running a dool boot with windows, using grub if that's relevant.

I want to try a fresh install of Fedora 27, wiping my existing partition, but I'm worried that I'll still encounter all these problems. My questions are
1) Should i just use X11 exclusively and install the nvidia drivers so that I can actually use Optimus and the GPU?
2) How do I get to those log messages?
3) Is there another distro that would solve my problems? I don't care too much about Gnome 3, although I am very used to it.

I just want things to work properly

# ? Mar 3, 2018 22:15

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GobiasIndustries posted:

I've got an old Dell Inspiron Mini 10v sitting around (1.6ghz Atom processor, 2 gigs of ram, 250gb hard drive) that I'd like to find some sort of use for, maybe a local webserver or something? Since the specs are obviously extremely uninspiring, I'm looking for something very lightweight. Looking around, it seems like Lubuntu would be one of the better options?

I have an ASUS netbook with similar specs and it ran LXDE/XFCE acceptably, but if you're going to turn it into a server why install a desktop at all instead of a terminal-only build that you could just manage from another system?

# ? Mar 4, 2018 04:06

Boris Galerkin: Dec 17, 2011; I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Brownie posted:

I've been using Fedora 26 on my Dell XPS for the last year or so and have encountered many problems. I can't use the Nvidia card since I've been using Wayland instead of X11, but X11 seems to have issues itself (Sublime Text is very slow and freezes up for some reason). Additionally, it restarts on wakeup about 94% of the time, and during startup/shutdown I see a ton of logged error/warning messages.

I am running a dool boot with windows, using grub if that's relevant.

I want to try a fresh install of Fedora 27, wiping my existing partition, but I'm worried that I'll still encounter all these problems. My questions are
1) Should i just use X11 exclusively and install the nvidia drivers so that I can actually use Optimus and the GPU?
2) How do I get to those log messages?
3) Is there another distro that would solve my problems? I don't care too much about Gnome 3, although I am very used to it.

I just want things to work properly

1) If you search a page or two back (or maybe on this page even) I think that there is some consensus that Wayland maybe isn�t ready for prime time yet.

With regards to the Optimus setup, I did a lot of searching for this recently and came to the conclusion that, for my use case, it wasn�t worth the battery trade off. AFAIR, you have 3 options here: iGPU + nouveau drivers, iGPU + Nvidia drivers, or Nvidia GPU only. Installing the Nvidia drivers means that the Nvidia card is just always on even if you�re not actively using it, so it�s just really bad for battery life. Do you actually need the Nvidia drivers? I didn�t, so I didn�t install it. Using the iGPU + nouveau setup (this is installed by default) you still get the option to run things off the Nvidia GPU when you want, at runtime, on a per app basis.

Take a look at the �OSS stack� section here: https://negativo17.org/nvidia-driver-improvements-for-fedora-25/

Again on my Fedora 27 install this was all done automatically. I didn�t have to install or configure anything extra. I can just right click graphical apps like Paraview and choose the dedicated GPU.

2) Maybe try https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/97597/error-messages-at-boot-and-at-shutdown/

I also see some error messages when I boot and when I shutdown too. I�m not sure if they�re actually detrimental though, so I haven�t bothered digging deeper into it because everything works fine.

3) Developer edition XPSs ship with Ubuntu, so I would assume that developers at Dell have done some amount of testing. If you wanted to try something else whatever version of Ubuntu they are shipping on their laptops is probably your best bet.

# ? Mar 4, 2018 09:16

McGiggins: Apr 4, 2014; by R. Guyovich; Lipstick Apathy

Boris Galerkin posted:

There’s also a RPi thread here in SHSC, but RPis run Linux so sure ask away.

e: You’ll need to tell us step by step what you’re doing.

Cheers. I feel lost, and dumb because i can't figure out why I'm lost

.

So I'm trying to compile the software of a ps1 emulator because as far as i have been able to determine, that's the only way to get og Diablo 1 running on a pi.

(I'm mainly doing this to get ahead of the curve for some uni stuff which requires me to learn terminal operation, and pi is the cheap little testbed. Getting the full version of Minecraft to run on this little box was certainly a lesson and a half)

The software is called PCSX reARMed. I initially found a version of it that worked (r15) but once running the software being emulated didn't recognize inputs of any kind. I found a more more up to date version (r22) that could be downloaded directly from the git for it, but it didn't come with any executable and had to be compiled on my computer itself.

The problem is, i think it requires something called a submodule (libpicofe?) in order to compile and i cant seem to figure out what that is or where to get it from.

Sorry if this not enough information or outside the scope of the thread in terms of being a super-simple thing i should have been able to figure out myself.

# ? Mar 4, 2018 11:03

MrPablo: Mar 21, 2003

G-Prime posted:

Admittedly, my research on this was relatively quick. Dug through the ThinkWiki entry for Fedora on it (turns out that was for F25, which is old enough that much of that information is likely inaccurate), as well as several other threads and posts. Are there any weird things like the touchscreen not working with multitouch? And does the trackpad properly disable in tablet mode? Those I think are the biggest concerns. WWAN would be a nice-to-have, but I can tether my phone if I have to. Does suspend and hibernate work, also?

Suspend and hibernate work.

I rarely use the touchscreen so I'm not the best person to comment on it. On my system single touch works fine, multi-touch doesn't appear to do anything. I don't know if that is a quirk with my system or a problem with Linux itself.

There used to be scripts to disable the touchpad when it was in tablet mode, but I don't know if those are still necessary.

Context: When I originally got this laptop I intended to use it as a laptop and a replacement for my Nexus 7, but it's too unwieldy for me in tablet mode and it turns out I really don't like having fingerprints on the computer screen.

# ? Mar 4, 2018 16:24

GobiasIndustries: Dec 14, 2007; Lipstick Apathy

Eletriarnation posted:

I have an ASUS netbook with similar specs and it ran LXDE/XFCE acceptably, but if you're going to turn it into a server why install a desktop at all instead of a terminal-only build that you could just manage from another system?

Well I haven't decided on exactly what I'm going to do with it yet so having a desktop environment available off the bat doesn't seem like a bad idea.

# ? Mar 4, 2018 16:43

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