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What I find funny about the multiple parks is that Westworld would almost definitely be my last choice to visit. It's like the Hollywood Studios of Delos.
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Shneak posted:What I find funny about the multiple parks is that Westworld would almost definitely be my last choice to visit. It's like the Hollywood Studios of Delos. Well when you gave hosed your way through the other parks, sometimes you might want something a little different. Plus maybe Westworld is the only one with guns?
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Mar 3, 2018 22:51
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Shneak posted:What I find funny about the multiple parks is that Westworld would almost definitely be my last choice to visit. It's like the Hollywood Studios of Delos. Unless the A plot is literally Ninja Naruto training, I have a hard time seeing how someone outside of the CEO of Oracle sets that as their A choice. Ok, strike that. I'm sure there's tons of folks that want to be The Blind Swordsman or The Last Samurai and bang a small army of Geisha. The multiple parks thing makes Ford's role a little less spectacular, though. FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Mar 3, 2018 |
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Mar 3, 2018 22:59
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FilthyImp posted:I'm pretty sure I wouldn't spend my 20,000 robot fuckin and drinkin vacation on goddamn ShogunLand. I’m guessing westworld was the first.
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Mar 3, 2018 23:01
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hobbesmaster posted:I’m guessing westworld was the first. They've probably got the rest of the parks locked down tightly, with their own guys doing character scripting and plot development. Meanwhile Ford is tooling around Fantasyland in his own little reconstruction era fiefdom and ita driving the board nuts because it's not like they're going to tell Walt Disney to gently caress off with this Fantasia bullshit.
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Mar 3, 2018 23:12
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The other parks just employ human prostitutes with experience in community theater, which is good enough for what most visitors want.
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Mar 3, 2018 23:13
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business hammocks posted:The other parks just employ human prostitutes with experience in community theater, which is good enough for what most visitors want. Does that mean you can't shoot them in the face?
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Mar 3, 2018 23:38
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Carbon dioxide posted:Does that mean you can't shoot them in the face? CIF always costs extra
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Mar 4, 2018 00:23
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Wouldn’t be surprised if West world was the only complete world and the other worlds were something Ford protested.
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Mar 4, 2018 00:29
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I really got the feeling that the other parks weren’t open yet, and that Westworld was the only one open to the public//finished testing-debugging, because there is no indication in any flashbacks of other parks.
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Mar 4, 2018 00:31
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Bust Rodd posted:I really got the feeling that the other parks weren’t open yet, and that Westworld was the only one open to the public//finished testing-debugging, because there is no indication in any flashbacks of other parks. My take was that WW was the Disney World, and the other parks were more recent attempts to further commercialize on their product (think Epcot, Animal Kingdom, etc). So even if the other parks are newer or more interesting, nostalgia and the simple fact of ~first~ makes WestWorld the biggest draw. WestWorld is also family-oriented...I imagine ShogunWorld is a little more stark. Not as many opportunities for quaint picnics in the Sengoku Jidai.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:My take was that WW was the Disney World, and the other parks were more recent attempts to further commercialize on their product (think Epcot, Animal Kingdom, etc). So even if the other parks are newer or more interesting, nostalgia and the simple fact of ~first~ makes WestWorld the biggest draw. WestWorld is also family-oriented...I imagine ShogunWorld is a little more stark. Not as many opportunities for quaint picnics in the Sengoku Jidai. I'm pretty sure Feudal Japan wasn't any more warlike than the Old West. Like normal people actually lived lives and were happy there. They farmed, had towns and markets, wrote poetry, loved. It wasn't a hellhole. Pretty much any setting could have a "family" version and a more hardcore one. But I do agree, WW was probably the first, the biggest, and the one that Ford spent all his time on. It's probably also why William was so obsessed with it. He wasn't going to get THE ANSWERS in some spinoff park.
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Astroman posted:I'm pretty sure Feudal Japan wasn't any more warlike than the Old West. Like normal people actually lived lives and were happy there. They farmed, had towns and markets, wrote poetry, loved. It wasn't a hellhole. Pretty much any setting could have a "family" version and a more hardcore one. But I do agree, WW was probably the first, the biggest, and the one that Ford spent all his time on. It's probably also why William was so obsessed with it. He wasn't going to get THE ANSWERS in some spinoff park. In a park setting I imagine your clientele would be after the inaccurate stereotype of geishas, testing katana sharpness on random peasants, and honor duels. And any other "how people envision feudal Edo" things
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Feudal Edo would actually be marvelous for a less macho demographic than Westworld. Edo had a well developed consumer culture called the Floating World. Shopping, artists, theatre, intrigue and romance, even a highly ritualized criminal culture for the darker side of things. But I imagine that's the kind of hopeful thought Ford had about the wild west before everyone just murderfucked all his NPCs.
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Mar 4, 2018 06:57
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The Dave posted:Wouldn’t be surprised if West world was the only complete world and the other worlds were something Ford protested. Yeah, if Ford was entirely focused on WW and also the only one who could get the AI to work I could see the plot beat about other parks being less complete versions. I mean a huge part of Tessa Thompson's story arc was how hard it is to get a robot out of WW to reverse engineer it. Of course, if they really did season 2 rewrites after everyone guessed Thandie Newton's story twist who knows what still matters.
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Mar 4, 2018 07:09
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Azhais posted:In a park setting I imagine your clientele would be after the inaccurate stereotype of geishas, testing katana sharpness on random peasants, and honor duels. And any other "how people envision feudal Edo" things Well that's kind of how West World is. There's all kinds of gun fights, and train robberies. Then you ride into town and there's a bunch of attractive whores.
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Mar 4, 2018 07:13
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What’s that about rewrites for Thandie?
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Mar 4, 2018 07:44
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business hammocks posted:The other parks just employ human prostitutes with experience in community theater, which is good enough for what most visitors want. Surely you've noticed the bias where "It's a robot = not cheating." I'm guessing that drives it extensively. That stupid little technicality that makes people sleep okay at night. There's also the fact that real women won't have infinite self-disinfecting parts to insure nobody gets an STD
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Blazing Ownager posted:Surely you've noticed the bias where "It's a robot = not cheating." I'm guessing that drives it extensively. That stupid little technicality that makes people sleep okay at night. They don't care about STDs...or probably any diseases. One of the hosts has a MRSA infection or something and they're just like "haha welp, a few more rounds in the fucktank and I guess we'll cure her then?"  Doesn't Ed Harris at one point say that they gave the hosts  human bodies because they are easier/cheaper to repair than tech?
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Mar 4, 2018 08:26
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:They don't care about STDs...or probably any diseases. One of the hosts has a MRSA infection or something and they're just like "haha welp, a few more rounds in the fucktank and I guess we'll cure her then?" Yeah, the synthetic human bodies are cheaper to mass produce/less complicated to repair than if they were OG models like in the young Will stuff.
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Bust Rodd posted:What’s that about rewrites for Thandie? 
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Bust Rodd posted:What’s that about rewrites for Thandie?
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Mar 4, 2018 13:06
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Well, Maeve left off on a boring video game rampage trite satan storming the gates of heaven B plot while the rest of the show was busy being interesting, maybe they put some work into taking it into a direction that's not beneath the standards set by the rest of the show.
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Mar 4, 2018 13:30
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Rick & Morty famously rewrote chunks of S2 because of a Reddit thread perfectly nailing projected plot beats and I’m happy with what we got but it seems, uh, unproffesional to announce that’s what you’re doing.
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Mar 4, 2018 14:06
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Bust Rodd posted:Rick & Morty famously rewrote chunks of S2 because of a Reddit thread perfectly nailing projected plot beats First I've heard of it.
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Mar 4, 2018 14:53
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They very well could have been joking but Nolan has said he didn't think Maeve getting off the train being her first original decision to be so obvious to watchers and that he's going have to change some things if he wants to keep people guessing.
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Mar 4, 2018 15:40
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I think writers should just ignore fan predictions. Just keep the original plan and let the few spergs say "HURF DURF I PREDICTED IT, ME AM SO SMART" I'd rather deal with the two idiots in this thread who quote themselves and say "I called it" despite all the other posts they made that were wrong than get a bottom of the barrel plot that no one predicted yet. The people who figured it out won't admit they were wrong, they'll just say "I was right, but then they changed it" anyway.
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Mar 4, 2018 17:44
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I got really mad when LOST would change plots based on viewers. Have confidence in your story, even if people can predict it. I think people were calling the William/MiB thing after the fourth episode, it was still an awesome reveal at the end!
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:One of the hosts has a MRSA infection or something and they're just like "haha welp, a few more rounds in the fucktank and I guess we'll cure her then?" Cite your sources pls, tia
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Professor Shark posted:I got really mad when LOST would change plots based on viewers. Have confidence in your story, even if people can predict it. I think people were calling the William/MiB thing after the fourth episode, it was still an awesome reveal at the end! They've denied ever doing this though. It changed due to contracting and scheduling and casting issues but the idea that they were rewriting it in response to fans successfully guessing plot twists was just internet commentators huffing their own farts when their predictions wound up being wrong.
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Professor Shark posted:I got really mad when LOST would change plots based on viewers. Have confidence in your story, even if people can predict it. I think people were calling the William/MiB thing after the fourth episode, it was still an awesome reveal at the end! LOST didn't have any plots. This is evident on rewatch, when everytime they come to a new ~mystery~, they throw out three or four wads of spaghetti and it is nearly always the first one because the fanbase was dumb: *Jack and crew come upon a hatch in the forrest* Jack: It's a hatch to a secret monitor base! Sawyer: It's a way off the island! Kate: It's filled with icecream! Sayid: We are all dead... It was the first one. It's always the first one. I mean, the most obvious tell that they had no idea what they were doing or where they were going with anything is the knowledge that Sawyer is the ONLY character on that show with any kind of arc. Everyone else doesn't even have a moment of introspection. FFS, why did Charlie even die? Oh that's right: it was pointless schlock to make the audience sad... KoRMaK posted:Cite your sources pls, tia S1E2 @ 45:30 Elsie comments that Maeve is experiencing physical discomfort. Then at 51:40 Felix and his buddy find out it is MRSA in her abdomen that has been there through multiple cycles because "those loving animals don't clean up...no wonder we have a loving fly problem."
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I think Nicki and Paulo where really the one big time LOST piveted based on viewers. Really they had an idea of what they wanted to do but then had to add tons of half-baked filler because ABC never wanted them to stop making episodes. It's okay though because we have The Leftovers and it's perfect.
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Mar 4, 2018 18:36
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I liked when two characters on Lost randomly died because they both got DUIs IRL.
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The Dave posted:I think Nicki and Paulo where really the one big time LOST piveted based on viewers. Really they had an idea of what they wanted to do but then had to add tons of half-baked filler because ABC never wanted them to stop making episodes. Agreed on both counts! Nicki and Paulo were what I was thinking of, and I just assumed since they did it once that they did it repeatedly, and also The Leftovers was Lost done right and improved upon it in every way.
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Cojawfee posted:I think writers should just ignore fan predictions. Just keep the original plan and let the few spergs say "HURF DURF I PREDICTED IT, ME AM SO SMART" I'd rather deal with the two idiots in this thread who quote themselves and say "I called it" despite all the other posts they made that were wrong than get a bottom of the barrel plot that no one predicted yet. The people who figured it out won't admit they were wrong, they'll just say "I was right, but then they changed it" anyway. Same. A show can be predictable but still be good. You can get spoiled on a show or movie and still watch it and be entertained because it is not only about the story being told but how it is told. And yeah, most of the predictions were wrong.
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Mar 4, 2018 19:15
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People were often citing plot changes in the middle of the season, which would be literally impossible given that the entire season was finished weeks in advance of the season premiere.
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Mar 4, 2018 19:45
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business hammocks posted:People were often citing plot changes in the middle of the season, which would be literally impossible given that the entire season was finished weeks in advance of the season premiere. Shhh, let the beardos have their own moment of imagined triumph against a creative force that was thankfully willfully unaware of their existence and output.
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business hammocks posted:People were often citing plot changes in the middle of the season, which would be literally impossible given that the entire season was finished weeks in advance of the season premiere. If you're talking Westworld or Rick and Morty, sure. LOST, not so much. LOST filmed during airing, as do most shows that start in September, though it would have been about a half dozen episodes further along.
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Bust Rodd posted:The most important and lasting impression I have from The Matrix was the celerity with which machines ditches bipedal shapes. They remain as humanoids up until they no longer need to interact with humans politically and then they go all Lovecraftian. Terminator is cool but all the skeleton-men are extremely dated and the way the robots from The Matrix series are all these weird amorphous shapes based off practical, streamlined applications and now every time robots are presented as Androids I get huffy, so in my wildest dreams the Westworld hosts will eventually rehaul the manufacturing center and be like "uh, ok, gimme a horse body and a tiger mouth where the belly is and bull horns and like 10 loving wings with hydraulic motors so i can fly like a humming bird and..."
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