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H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

so do i pm you or how does this work lol

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FamDav
Mar 29, 2008

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

There's a huge difference between having an affair and using your position at a pervasive company to make the world measurably worse for everyone. They don't compare and if you think they do, your sense of perspective is hosed up.

did you at least give your wife the chance to find satisfaction with an average sized person

crabrock
Aug 2, 2002

I

AM

MAGNIFICENT






really the only way to beat SV is to deprive them of tech workers by denying all childhood cancer claims to reduce the worker pool. you loving fools just see everything in the short term while this genius is addressing institutional problems

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
gas tori, ban thread

people are getting a bit concerned over the agreement waterfront toronto signed with sidewalk labs, what with no one having seen it or anything

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

I am going to continue to mock the Facebook man who defended their lovely unethical manipulative experiments while also rubbing magnets on his head to make the sadbrains go away, and you can't do anything about it.

i'm going to continue to shame the adulterer who works for a private medical insurer

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

lol i was wondering what the grift was beyond just land rights


Sidewalk Labs’ role in developing waterfront land, unlocked by the promise of $1.25-billion in government-funded flood protection, remains unclear as work continues on an agreement expected later this year that, if signed by both parties, would formalize the Quayside project dubbed “Sidewalk Toronto.”

...

While the land is undeniably valuable, observers say it is the promise of endless streams of data from custom-connected communities, with sensors monitoring and recording almost all manner of life that has Google, Microsoft and other tech giants salivating.

Sidewalk’s assurances that it envisions making money from licensing new technologies created in the high-tech district, rather than selling data, are not allaying fears.


lmao

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

boys, boys, we're all amoral sellouts and dirtbags it doesn't matter which one is the worst
please note that sidewalk labs' only actual thing to date is those wifi plinths in new york which only exist because verizon was going to lose a bunch of outdoor advertising rights where payphones used to be

so innovative

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

Sidewalk Labs’ role in developing waterfront land, unlocked by the promise of $1.25-billion in government-funded flood protection,

to be clear they aren't getting that money in any way, that's a separate infrastructure project that's been in the works roughly as long as i've been alive. they have to rebuild the river mouth to keep the industrial lands cum new development around it from flooding several times a year.

the parcel sidewalk bid on is just west of it and not really directly affected. their broader proposal assumes they get everything to the south that will be developable after the naturalization project is complete

there's also a large parcel immediately east that's speculated to be used if we win the HQ2 booby prize, but will be a new mixed use development either way

infernal machines fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Mar 6, 2018

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
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we breathin'
we dyin'

qirex posted:

boys, boys, we're all amoral sellouts and dirtbags it doesn't matter which one is the worst

please do not minimize the massively unethical existence of private health insurance

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

While the land is undeniably valuable, observers say it is the promise of endless streams of data from custom-connected communities, with sensors monitoring and recording almost all manner of life that has Google, Microsoft and other tech giants salivating.

Sidewalk’s assurances that it envisions making money from licensing new technologies created in the high-tech district, rather than selling data, are not allaying fears.


lmao

their rfp is loving lolerskates too https://sidewalktoronto.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Waterfront-Toronto-RFP-No.-2017-13.pdf

low cost modular housing, but not storage containers, that we'll reorganize on the fly to dynamically respond to neighbourhood priorities

street layouts that impede all use and fly in the face of established urban planning principles, because innovation. also we're ignoring the two big downtown developments that did this same thing in the 60s and 70s and turned into the worst neighbourhoods in the city within a decade.

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
that is one of the most overwritten RFPs i've ever seen jfc

granted i don't typically see them for site development like that but ughh

heated game moment
Oct 30, 2003

Lipstick Apathy

Captain Foo posted:

please do not minimize the massively unethical existence of private health insurance

https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/970726408673742848

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

There's a huge difference between having an affair and using your position at a pervasive company to make the world measurably worse for everyone. They don't compare and if you think they do, your sense of perspective is hosed up.

I think that making a hundred million people's lives marginally worse by giving them an opportunity to compare themselves to others is still less morally contemptible than deliberately violating the trust of the one person in you've actively chosen to be with for the rest of your life. Particularly if you then go online and tell a bunch of strangers that it was because she wouldn't do the freaky deaky sex stuff you wanted.

Maybe that's just me though

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


crabrock posted:

well yeah my job leads to the direct death of babies, adults, and everybody in between, but some guy treats his mental illness in a way i find funny and works for a company that i don't like, so really who is worse?

Agreed.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

that is one of the most overwritten RFPs i've ever seen jfc

granted i don't typically see them for site development like that but ughh

it's all song and dance. also, most of the rfp operates on the assumption that they'll have control over the massive tract of land opening immediately south of the neighbourhood they bid for.

heated game moment
Oct 30, 2003

Lipstick Apathy
used to be a poster round here, citizen tayne or something, said that nerds shouldnt talk about their gross sex poo poo because no one wanted to hear about it. wonder whatever happened to that guy

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

flakeloaf posted:

why do the thread voting buttons only go down to 1

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Sagebrush posted:

I think that making a hundred million people's lives marginally worse by giving them an opportunity to compare themselves to others is still less morally contemptible than deliberately violating the trust of the one person in you've actively chosen to be with for the rest of your life. Particularly if you then go online and tell a bunch of strangers that it was because she wouldn't do the freaky deaky sex stuff you wanted.

Maybe that's just me though
It sounds to me like you've had personal experiences that have hosed up your sense of perspective, because using a panopticon to isolate and emotionally manipulate groups of people for the purpose of figuring out the best way to pull their advertising strings is infinitely shittier than any single relationship.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
why are y'all tryin' to shame tori? what, in his entire posting history, makes you think that will do anything?

how are you morons getting tori'd this hard for this long?

goddamn

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

honey, honey, you can both be terrible people, don't worry there's enough terrible in the world for everyone

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan

god this is the worst poo poo, why the hell are they trying to do that here? i'd prefer the fords stupid casino idea

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

factually accurate onion headlines are the best, except for the ones written as farce that wind up being eerily prescient years later

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

SENSUAL DAD KISS posted:

god this is the worst poo poo, why the hell are they trying to do that here? i'd prefer the fords stupid casino idea

because toronto is desperate enough to let them?

that and the unending hardon both the municipal and provincial governments have for P3s makes this the absolute ideal loving scenario for development of that little patch.

for reference, the waterfront toronto board are up to their necks in the OLP

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

SENSUAL DAD KISS posted:

i'd prefer the fords

hey now

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

a monorail and a ferris wheel motherfucker!

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

factually accurate onion headlines are the best, except for the ones written as farce that wind up being eerily prescient years later

quote:

Bush swore to do "everything in [his] power" to undo the damage wrought by Clinton's two terms in office, including selling off the national parks to developers, going into massive debt to develop expensive and impractical weapons technologies, and passing sweeping budget cuts that drive the mentally ill out of hospitals and onto the street.

haha yeah like america would ever be dumb enough to do those silly things


:smith:

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan

infernal machines posted:

why are y'all tryin' to shame tori? what, in his entire posting history, makes you think that will do anything?

how are you morons getting tori'd this hard for this long?

goddamn

gotta shame something

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

infernal machines posted:

why are y'all tryin' to shame tori? what, in his entire posting history, makes you think that will do anything?

how are you morons getting tori'd this hard for this long?

goddamn

lol

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

infernal machines posted:

a monorail and a ferris wheel motherfucker!

a giant thing that sits there and rotates while people scream

yup that's what i think of

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

infernal machines posted:

why are y'all tryin' to shame tori? what, in his entire posting history, makes you think that will do anything?

how are you morons getting tori'd this hard for this long?

goddamn

I just need to get all my argumentatin' out online so that I don't snap at the students

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

infernal machines posted:

that and the unending hardon both the municipal and provincial governments have for P3s makes this the absolute ideal loving scenario for development of that little patch.
P3s are like a perfect storm of bribery opportunities so of course local politicians love them

they're fragile too, which means that when they fall apart, a ton of people get boned and some sub-sub-contractor ends up holding the bag

rjmccall
Sep 7, 2007

no worries friend
Fun Shoe

Sagebrush posted:

I just need to get all my argumentatin' out online so that I don't snap at the students

same, but so i'm not tempted to flame people in the swift evolution forums

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Sagebrush posted:

I just need to get all my argumentatin' out online so that I don't snap at the students

yeah, yospos is good for that


qirex posted:

P3s are like a perfect storm of bribery opportunities so of course local politicians love them

they're fragile too, which means that when they fall apart, a ton of people get boned and some sub-sub-contractor ends up holding the bag

they've been used to disastrous effect here for quite some time. hilariously, SNC lavalin actually backed out of one to run our airport express tram when they realized there was no humanly possible way to turn a profit on the line, leaving the provincial transit agency to take a bath on its operation after the project was approved

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

they’re tryin to get them designated as historical so that entire neighborhoods of them can never be demo’d

lmao forever at palo alto

Joseph Eichler wanted to make well-designed homes for the masses. That, in part, was his ethos. The city of Palo Alto, home to many Eichler specimens, wants the opposite. In February, the Silicon Valley town’s Historic Resources Board approved a new set of home guidelines that, if enacted, would bar any new house two stories and up and any home that didn’t signify, however loosely, the iconic midcentury-modern developer.

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


Endless Mike posted:

HE'S DIDN'T HAVE TO TAKE AN ETHICS COURSE AND IS NOW DRAWING UP PLANS FOR AN ART INSTALLATION THAT CAN PERMANENTLY DEAFEN ANYONE WHO GETS SOMEWHAT CLOSE WHILE IT'S OPERATING

lolled irl

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
sometimes being dangerous is part of the art. they once did an installation at the tate modern that involved punching a big hole in the floor and the museum only put up warnings and attendants so naturally a bunch of people did fall into it and hurt themselves. not saying this is the case here but the tate presumably has fully qualified and licensed engineers and they did it anyway

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
lol that rules

but i wonder if they actually needed to get an architect to sign off on it beyond just compliance w/ temporary work conditions since presumably warnings and attendants are all that’s required

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
aren't there like a million health and safety regulations that say you can't have a giant hole in the floor without a big fuckoff railing around it, for what would appear to be obvious reasons?

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

infernal machines posted:

aren't there like a million health and safety regulations that say you can't have a giant hole in the floor without a big fuckoff railing around it, for what would appear to be obvious reasons?

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May 5, 2005



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haveblue posted:

sometimes being dangerous is part of the art. they once did an installation at the tate modern that involved punching a big hole in the floor and the museum only put up warnings and attendants so naturally a bunch of people did fall into it and hurt themselves. not saying this is the case here but the tate presumably has fully qualified and licensed engineers and they did it anyway

for a while i lived at the Clinton Cultural Campus (bill's old high school, converted to `artist studios` ) and i did this big art install bitching about mtv and cnn and one of the features was a cardboard triptych featuring a bunch of my blood in patterns (did the hardcore forehead blading trick, it was NBD) and everybody freaked out. it was dumb and adolescent but i still believe in my message and think it was constructive

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