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el oso
Feb 18, 2005

phew, for a minute there i lost myself
I put like 50 hours into this game and never knew you could overcharge the Pod programs.

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RoadCrewWorker
Nov 19, 2007

camels aren't so great
I wonder how many players never find the missile pod. Does the game start giving stronger and stronger hints or do you just have to like relaxing while fishing a ton (like me) and get lucky?

Over There
Jun 28, 2013

by Azathoth

el oso posted:

I put like 50 hours into this game and never knew you could overcharge the Pod programs.

Oh wow me either

Yuwe
Apr 6, 2009

RoadCrewWorker posted:

I wonder how many players never find the missile pod. Does the game start giving stronger and stronger hints or do you just have to like relaxing while fishing a ton (like me) and get lucky?

You get one hint if you talk to the someone on the bunker (might be the same operator that gives the hint for the laser pod, but I'm not sure). I don't think they actually mention that you should fish though. Pods and their upgrades are obscured to a ridiculous degree.

Badingading
Sep 2, 2011

RoadCrewWorker posted:

I wonder how many players never find the missile pod. Does the game start giving stronger and stronger hints or do you just have to like relaxing while fishing a ton (like me) and get lucky?

It's been a while since I played but I recall there being a couple NPCs that mention losing their pods around the spots you eventually actually find them at, and that's about as much of a hint in game that you get.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

el oso posted:

I put like 50 hours into this game and never knew you could overcharge the Pod programs.

Same.

Just goes to show how challenging the game's combat is :v:

NachtSieger
Apr 10, 2013


el oso posted:

I put like 50 hours into this game and never knew you could overcharge the Pod programs.

Wait what?

Yuwe
Apr 6, 2009
Overcharging the Pod programs requires that you have more than one pod. Holding down the button then will have your other Pod(s) join in. This will make the program more powerful/shoot more but increases the cooldown (and all pods used in the program will go on that cooldown).

NachtSieger
Apr 10, 2013


That's cool as poo poo.

el oso
Feb 18, 2005

phew, for a minute there i lost myself
I also did not know that the song lyrics were all just gibberish, which owns.

Hikaki
Oct 11, 2005
Motherfucking Fujitsu Heavy Industries
I just finished Drakengard 3 and man, that final boss. Excellent presentation as I expected, and it was tough but fair up until the very end where there are three notes you have to hit with no visual or aural clues while what seems to be the post-battle cutscene is happening. I had to look up a timing guide on Youtube at this point and I'm not ashamed to say it. I have a feeling the devs had a meeting specifically to think up every gotcha possible for this sequence. The ending wasn't really worth it and I still have questions but overall it was a good ride.

el oso posted:

I also did not know that the song lyrics were all just gibberish, which owns.

This is one of my favorite things about the soundtrack. You get the emotional impact of vocals without having to worry about potentially corny lyrics. Leaves more to the imagination too.

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.
I just started playing this and have read up on a few quality of life things that open up later in the game like fast travel and chapter select and whatnot.

If i'm mainly interested in the story and getting through it as quickly as possible (i.e. minimal backtracking and running all over the place), should i just drop the game to easy and plough through the main quests until i beat the main story (to unlock chapter select) then go back to do all the side quests then?

Or do you end up missing out on the context of some of them by doing it that way?

RoadCrewWorker
Nov 19, 2007

camels aren't so great
Absolutely nothing changes from the difficulty setting and you can change it to whatever at any point (except a few short "cinematic" sequences). You're just skipping on the combat and rpg aspects - which i enjoyed but everyone's mileage varies, so more power to you.

I can't speak how different the narrative feels if you do all the sidequests after chapter select since i did them all rather early, since some benefit from (not) having the full context or provide some worldbuilding and charm themselves. I imagine working through them via chapter select makes them feel a lot more disjointed, but let me know how it goes.

But then again i also never played the original Nier and people said that also provides some influential lore context (that i was fine not having) so you'll probably be ok.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
A bunch of the side quests serve as foreshadowing and give more context to main quest events, but if you're interested in doing a thorough playthrough anyway then running through the story until you get chapter select and then starting over would be a decent enough way to go. There's multiple endings anyway based on your final choice, so it'd be appropriate to make one choice, go through as much of the game as you want with chapter select, and then come back and make the other choice for the final ending.

Natural 20
Sep 17, 2007

Wearer of Compasses. Slayer of Gods. Champion of the Colosseum. Heart of the Void.
Saviour of Hallownest.

Kin posted:

I just started playing this and have read up on a few quality of life things that open up later in the game like fast travel and chapter select and whatnot.

If i'm mainly interested in the story and getting through it as quickly as possible (i.e. minimal backtracking and running all over the place), should i just drop the game to easy and plough through the main quests until i beat the main story (to unlock chapter select) then go back to do all the side quests then?

Or do you end up missing out on the context of some of them by doing it that way?

Do all the sidequests.

Don't do any of the sidequests until you unlock fast travel.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Kin posted:

I just started playing this and have read up on a few quality of life things that open up later in the game like fast travel and chapter select and whatnot.

If i'm mainly interested in the story and getting through it as quickly as possible (i.e. minimal backtracking and running all over the place), should i just drop the game to easy and plough through the main quests until i beat the main story (to unlock chapter select) then go back to do all the side quests then?

Or do you end up missing out on the context of some of them by doing it that way?

Rushing to the end is a really bad idea. Whilst some sidequests are basically filler, others help to flesh out the world and give context to later reveals.

DeadFatDuckFat
Oct 29, 2012

This avatar brought to you by the 'save our dead gay forums' foundation.


Natural 20 posted:

Do all the sidequests.

Don't do any of the sidequests until you unlock fast travel.

I wish I had known this before I did the jean paul quest :(

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

Hunt11 posted:

Rushing to the end is a really bad idea. Whilst some sidequests are basically filler, others help to flesh out the world and give context to later reveals.

I'm torn because I agree that it's probably best to do side quests before finishing the game, but then there are some that you're likely only going to do via chapter select anyway. Like: for Emil's quest, you have to have talked to Pascal after doing the forest kingdom but not have accepted the missile escort quest from Anemone, which is literally the next thing you're prompted to do after talking to Pascal. Most people aren't going to stumble into something that fiddly. Not to mention the quest that doesn't open up until you upgrade all the weapons, something else I doubt anyone did without chapter select.

I think they've done studies as well that suggest spoilers can actually enhance a story. I can see foreshadowing and dramatic irony landing better, that kind of thing. Getting the reveal and then getting the context has happened to me in other stories that weren't the worse for it.

That said, I think ending E is an exception to the rule, and I'd recommend a)having absolutely everything you want to do in the game done by the time you choose the second ending, and b)going into it with zero foreknowledge whatsoever

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Been meaning to get this for a while and it's on sale on Steam. The reviews seem to indicate that it's a bad bad port, but is it really that bad? Or is it classic PC quality control exaggeration?

(For reference I thought Arkham Knight played just fine on PC, but that might just have been my PC being kind to it).

Metal Meltdown
Mar 27, 2010

Steve2911 posted:

Been meaning to get this for a while and it's on sale on Steam. The reviews seem to indicate that it's a bad bad port, but is it really that bad? Or is it classic PC quality control exaggeration?

(For reference I thought Arkham Knight played just fine on PC, but that might just have been my PC being kind to it).

I feel it's exaggeration. The game played just fine for me on my PC, so go for it.

Cymbal Monkey
Apr 16, 2009

Lift Your Little Paws Like Antennas to Heaven!

Steve2911 posted:

Been meaning to get this for a while and it's on sale on Steam. The reviews seem to indicate that it's a bad bad port, but is it really that bad? Or is it classic PC quality control exaggeration?

(For reference I thought Arkham Knight played just fine on PC, but that might just have been my PC being kind to it).

I played it start to finish without issue on a MacBook Pro with Windows 10 installed, of course your milage may vary.

RoadCrewWorker
Nov 19, 2007

camels aren't so great

Steve2911 posted:

Been meaning to get this for a while and it's on sale on Steam. The reviews seem to indicate that it's a bad bad port, but is it really that bad? Or is it classic PC quality control exaggeration?

(For reference I thought Arkham Knight played just fine on PC, but that might just have been my PC being kind to it).
The port is mostly "bad" in that it eats even top hardware for breakfast and might not hit 60 on ultra quality as easily as other games, so make sure to hit the recommended minspecs and/or appropriately lower the settings (resolution especially). The rest of it was perfectly fine during my 80+ hours.

The keyboard controls are configurable and would be passable but they hard-code dodging to double tapping a direction - like wasd - key, which is an insanely slow and awkward method (unless you're story cruising on easy). If you got a decent gamepad though you should be golden.

RoadCrewWorker fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Mar 4, 2018

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
Get FAR and Nier runs great.

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

DeadFatDuckFat posted:

I wish I had known this before I did the jean paul quest :(
Doing that sidequest before getting fast travel really really made me appreciate fast travel.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Steve2911 posted:

Been meaning to get this for a while and it's on sale on Steam. The reviews seem to indicate that it's a bad bad port, but is it really that bad? Or is it classic PC quality control exaggeration?

(For reference I thought Arkham Knight played just fine on PC, but that might just have been my PC being kind to it).

Get the FAR mod and it works fine.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Thanks lads. Gonna play this mother.

e: Just done the opening bit. Game's great, why did I not get it before?

I knew the combat included bullet hell elements but I wasn't expecting the opening to be exactly Ikaruga.

stev fucked around with this message at 11:36 on Mar 5, 2018

onesixtwo
Apr 27, 2014

Don't you realize that being nice just makes you get hurt?

Steve2911 posted:

Thanks lads. Gonna play this mother.

e: Just done the opening bit. Game's great, why did I not get it before?

I knew the combat included bullet hell elements but I wasn't expecting the opening to be exactly Ikaruga.

I also picked it up from the sale and am enjoying the bullet hell aspects. Just wait until you get to the Amusement park, that boss fight sold me on seeing this game through.

Archenteron
Nov 3, 2006

:marc:
https://gematsu.com/2018/03/nier-automata-one-final-secret-yet-discovered

A hidden thing in the game that apparently isn't the best to make public, and this delightful quote from :yokotaro:

quote:

Regarding future titles, right now a game is being proposed to producer Yosuke Saito. The developers are trying their best to not be at a standstill. Yoko Taro said, “I made the proposal thinking it would be good if everyone suffered. I want to announce it when the project is passed.”

Hurt us more Taro

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

Huh, I wonder what the hidden thing is. I figured everything in the game had been found by now.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
I have to know what the secret is. It's sure to be disappointing of course, but then it wouldn't be very thematically appropriate if it wasn't

Know Such Peace
Dec 30, 2008
I really doubt there is something left to be discovered. This reminds me of that one starting gift in Dark Souls that ended up not being used for anything. The quote could also be a translation issue.

WaltherFeng
May 15, 2013

50 thousand people used to live here. Now, it's the Mushroom Kingdom.
Just beat the game 2nd time on hard mode. I think the last dungeon doesnt have checkpoints so I just spammed status boosters to make sure bosses didnt ohKO me.

I still havent done all sidequests which I probably should if I plan to do the dlc at some point.

This game is still my favorite platinum title after Metal Gear Rising.

Look Sir Droids
Jan 27, 2015

The tracks go off in this direction.

Know Such Peace posted:

I really doubt there is something left to be discovered. This reminds me of that one starting gift in Dark Souls that ended up not being used for anything. The quote could also be a translation issue.

I wasn't sure if he meant its a story or gameplay element that hasn't been discovered yet.

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



Look Sir Droids posted:

I wasn't sure if he meant its a story or gameplay element that hasn't been discovered yet.

Might be a game breaking glitch.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
Maybe it's that the help at the end comes from simulated players so that the game can keep being played after they turn the servers off, and erasing your save is entirely pointless

UP AND ADAM
Jan 24, 2007

by Pragmatica
I saw this stated before, but at the very end when you go to enter your own message and see all the disparaging or cynical remarks people could have wrote but didn't was another emotional beat that really added to the feeling of the ending, even if it was curated to appear that way.

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

MORT cancels dance: interrupted by MORT

UP AND ADAM posted:

I saw this stated before, but at the very end when you go to enter your own message and see all the disparaging or cynical remarks people could have wrote but didn't was another emotional beat that really added to the feeling of the ending, even if it was curated to appear that way.

I found this out by watching a stream, but there's some kind of heuristic for detecting how mean your message is. If you write something mean, Pod 042 just boots you to the main menu and you don't get the chance to delete your save.

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010

2house2fly posted:

Maybe it's that the help at the end comes from simulated players so that the game can keep being played after they turn the servers off, and erasing your save is entirely pointless
At the very least, that can't be completely on the level, right? It can't work exactly the way it's presented to you, because the numbers wouldn't work out.

Organza Quiz
Nov 7, 2009


It doesn’t come from simulated players, people have reported getting thank you messages from people their save file has helped. The part that’s bullshit is that their data gets destroyed when they say it is. Which IMO wasn’t needed anyway, it’s cool enough that someone sacrificed their save to help me even if the game is being honest that that save file can also help other people too and is part of an ever-growing pool.

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UP AND ADAM
Jan 24, 2007

by Pragmatica

Tarezax posted:

I found this out by watching a stream, but there's some kind of heuristic for detecting how mean your message is. If you write something mean, Pod 042 just boots you to the main menu and you don't get the chance to delete your save.

Holy poo poo, lol

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