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That was a really legit good episode of The Flash. I wish we didn't have to go back to DeVoe.
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Agreed on both counts. Hey, if Devoe didn't plan on the Flash getting out of prison, does that mean his master plan would have been derailed by random nuclear bomb going off in the middle of town and killing him?
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Mar 7, 2018 04:18
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Yeah, best ep in a while. Nice to get away from the dour DeVoe storyline for a change.
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Mar 7, 2018 04:19
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That might have been the first legit great episode since season 1
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Mar 7, 2018 05:20
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Hell yeah! Kill the Speedforce!  gently caress you, Jay!
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Mar 7, 2018 05:25
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I might have missed it, but when The Flash went into the SpeedForce and took the Timesphere, why didn't the SpeedForce KEEP going after Barry? Why did it stop?
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Mar 7, 2018 06:07
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Mar 7, 2018 06:09
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Phenotype posted:Agreed on both counts. Devoe has plot genius so this whole nuclear bomb thing was actually all a part of his plan to get the quark sphere out of the speed force so that he can 
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Mar 7, 2018 06:16
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Vietnamwees posted:I might have missed it, but when The Flash went into the SpeedForce and took the Timesphere, why didn't the SpeedForce KEEP going after Barry? Why did it stop? A line with Jay near the end: "So is the Speedforce okay with us now?" "If not, I guess we'll find out."
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Mar 7, 2018 06:43
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XS is going to clown all over DeVoe when she finally gets revealed and it's gonna own  Vietnamwees posted:I might have missed it, but when The Flash went into the SpeedForce and took the Timesphere, why didn't the SpeedForce KEEP going after Barry? Why did it stop? speed force
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Mar 7, 2018 06:55
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Bruceski posted:A line with Jay near the end: The Speed Force: "Barry Allen you hosed with time, come to Speed Jail" 1 season later... "Well gently caress, Allen that was pretty cool. You get a pass for now..."
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Mar 7, 2018 07:02
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Just another cool and good episode made by attractive people.
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Mar 7, 2018 07:23
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Flash...good?
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Mar 7, 2018 07:33
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Laterite posted:Flash...good? For the moment.
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Mar 7, 2018 07:49
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I skipped the last like three episodes and just came back for this one. No regrets.
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Mar 7, 2018 08:38
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So what's our exact total for Good Flash been this year, anyway? The premiere, Hazard, Dibny's debut, Girls Night Out, Crisis on Earth-X, Prank, tiny Team Flash, and now this one, right? Oh and next week is Run, Iris, Run, so hopefully it keeps the streak going.
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Mar 7, 2018 08:43
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from now on every time some random schlub hits Barry with a haymaker I'm just going to imagine him freezing time and doing elaborate math equations for hours trying to figure out how to avoid it only to give up and get punched square in the face.
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Mar 7, 2018 08:44
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Flash being way too fast aside - yep this ep was good. For those in the known, was dad Flash going to train a replacement a refference to anyone in particular?
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Mar 7, 2018 10:05
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XboxPants posted:I skipped the last like three episodes and just came back for this one. No regrets. 3 off 1 on is the key... it's still the same hooey. Stick with Legends, it's got Constantine level gaff, Wally and Damien Darhk chewing scenery like a stoned beaver. Rocksicles fucked around with this message at 10:13 on Mar 7, 2018 |
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Mar 7, 2018 10:10
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This episode was good because it taught Barry that he needed to go faster.
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Mar 7, 2018 11:28
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I particularly liked Barry going over to the board, erasing some complicated equations, and then with all his concentration writing "Speed Force."
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Mar 7, 2018 11:47
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Guy A. Person posted:Bleh the "we can't even go back 6 seconds to change time!" Reasoning is stupid Barry would rather him and everyone he knows died than time-altering having slightly unpredictable consequences. 
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Mar 7, 2018 11:59
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To be fair, everyone would still die in this timeline - only Barry would get to hang out in an alternate one where they didn’t.
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Mar 7, 2018 12:03
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Avalerion posted:To be fair, everyone would still die in this timeline - only Barry would get to hang out in an alternate one where they didn’t. That never stopped him before.
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Mar 7, 2018 12:04
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MiddleOne posted:Barry would rather him and everyone he knows died than time-altering having slightly unpredictable consequences. Yeah that was super dumb, "Jesse, we can't, don't you understand, we could come back and your dad could have A MUSTACHE, I'm not willing to risk it". Personally I was hoping Devoe would show up and temporarily join up with flash to stop the bomb, but whatever I guess "speedforce" is a good solution too. runaway dog fucked around with this message at 12:08 on Mar 7, 2018 |
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Mar 7, 2018 12:06
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Barry just takes continuity of consciousness really seriously you guys! 
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Mar 7, 2018 12:35
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Vietnamwees posted:I might have missed it, but when The Flash went into the SpeedForce and took the Timesphere, why didn't the SpeedForce KEEP going after Barry? Why did it stop? He throws the Timesphere back into the Speedforce, it's a like half a second shot.
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Mar 7, 2018 13:24
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MiddleOne posted:Barry would rather him and everyone he knows died than time-altering having slightly unpredictable consequences. Well if everyone I knew spent a whole season calling me a piece of poo poo for messing with time, I'd probably do my best to avoid it too.
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Mar 7, 2018 13:39
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nine-gear crow posted:So what's our exact total for Good Flash been this year, anyway? The premiere, Hazard, Dibny's debut, Girls Night Out, Crisis on Earth-X, Prank, tiny Team Flash, and now this one, right? The escape from jail episode was good, I thought. And I like the Big Sur episode.
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Mar 7, 2018 13:56
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MiddleOne posted:Barry would rather him and everyone he knows died than time-altering having slightly unpredictable consequences. My thought is that the timespace continuum works a lot differently in the Flash than it does in other media, and just overwrites the universe every time you try to gently caress with time travel. I can't think of anything specific right now, but I remember in the Flashpoint universe that a lot of things had changed in a way that couldn't really be explained by the "butterfly effect" of Barry saving his mom. My working theory is that the universe works under "gently caress you" principles for time travel, so you could travel back in time ten minutes, sit motionless in a chair, and then when you come back to your own time it turns out Donald Trump is the chairman of the NAACP and the Russians won the Cold War.
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Mar 7, 2018 14:22
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Phenotype posted:My thought is that the timespace continuum works a lot differently in the Flash than it does in other media, and just overwrites the universe every time you try to gently caress with time travel. I can't think of anything specific right now, but I remember in the Flashpoint universe that a lot of things had changed in a way that couldn't really be explained by the "butterfly effect" of Barry saving his mom. My working theory is that the universe works under "gently caress you" principles for time travel, so you could travel back in time ten minutes, sit motionless in a chair, and then when you come back to your own time it turns out Donald Trump is the chairman of the NAACP and the Russians won the Cold War. Also, as Barry has said, usually messing with time travel has a way of making things even worse than before (except with Vandal Savage). Essentially, you do something to mess with time, it usually comes back double.
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Mar 7, 2018 15:43
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Everyone else gets away with it all the time, though!
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Mar 7, 2018 16:00
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Agreed that was probably the best episode since season 1. It was everytihing you wanted in the Flash. Still was a little too long with the wrap up segments, but I can give them a pass for succeeding with the Plot A premise.
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Mar 7, 2018 17:18
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Mooseontheloose posted:Also, as Barry has said, usually messing with time travel has a way of making things even worse than before (except with Vandal Savage). Essentially, you do something to mess with time, it usually comes back double. Yeah it seems like they're sort've trapped between the classic "butterfly flapping it's wings" scenario where small changes reverberate out, and some more metaphysical karma like rule where messing with time causes it to retaliate. I was thinking more of the first scenario because going back in time 15 years might drastically change poo poo as little changes compounded, but going back 6 seconds shouldn't give any time for that to happen. Whereas the writers seem to want to do the "time bites back" thing to keep it from being a catch all solution to his problems. Which is fair from their perspective but kind of inconsistent with what they've done in the past.
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Mar 7, 2018 18:09
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On the other hand we had a bunch of episodes at the beginning of last season that repeatedly hammered on Barry for loving with time over and over, with every character dishing him poo poo, right down to Daddy Flash. The fact that Barry actually learned that lesson is a good thing. I would have been shittier (and par for the course as far as writing goes) for him to have forgotten that lesson and hosed with time, so for at least once the show was moderately consistent.
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Mar 7, 2018 19:00
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Avalerion posted:Everyone else gets away with it all the time, though! Well Thawne keeps doing it and last time he showed up he's a literal Nazi. Clearly time travel messes with you 
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Mar 7, 2018 19:26
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I mean the clear answer is that he doesn't want the legends to get involved because they'd just screw things up. He's dumb, though, because they'd screw things up for the better.
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Mar 7, 2018 19:39
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I was honestly a bit surprised that the whole idea to blow up the speed force as the last resort wasn't some plan from Devoe to cripple Flash and any other speedsters. Instead it just turned out to be a random group of eco-terrorists and Flash got to learn a lesson. I mean it was a good episode but it just felt strangely like filler.
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Mar 7, 2018 19:52
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Since they named her I assume the Eco Terrorist was someone from the comics?
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So, Barry's speed is way beyond lightspeed now, right? It feels like just last season there were still measuring his speed in mach.
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