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exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Raxivace posted:

The worst book I’ve owned and actually read is the Boss Fight Books...uh, book about Shadow of the Colossus. Legit worst piece of critical writing I’ve ever read.

What did they get wrong about it.

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Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

I mean there are times where that kind of reading is valid. Like that's a pretty common way to look at tentacle hentai.

Raxivace fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Mar 7, 2018

FirstAidKite
Nov 8, 2009

Really Pants posted:

what if there's a penis

what do penises represent

No such thing.

Penises are tentacles.

Everything else? Is penis.

codenameFANGIO
May 4, 2012

What are you even booing here?

Really Pants posted:

what if there's a penis

what do penises represent

swords and guns

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

FirstAidKite posted:

No such thing.

you can't not have penises, that's just nonsensical

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

FirstAidKite posted:

What's the worst book any of you have ever owned

Probably something by Piers Anthony in the 90s.

The worst book I voluntarily bought and read for myself as an adult is whichever of the Wheel of Time books I quit the series on, googling suggests it was 9 out of an eventual 14.

oddium
Feb 21, 2006

end of the 4.5 tatami age

the worst book i ever read... that's right... it's ya freaking post history !! :twisted:

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


codenameFANGIO posted:

swords and guns

Tired: Swords as a symbol for penises.
Wired: Swords that are literal penises.

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

exquisite tea posted:

What did they get wrong about it.
It's more that they say almost nothing about the game despite hyping up how they've been thinking hard about it for over a decade. Instead most of the book is a Let's Play in written form.

Saint Freak
Apr 16, 2007

Regretting is an insult to oneself
Buglord

exquisite tea posted:

Tired: Swords as a symbol for penises.
Wired: Swords that are literal penises.

It's time for another Saint's Row.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Raxivace posted:

It's more that they say almost nothing about the game despite hyping up how they've been thinking hard about it for over a decade. Instead most of the book is a Let's Play in written form.

A lot of game criticism is like that unfortunately. To be honest despite loving SotC I have yet to read or see a longform critique of it that's any more insightful than some posts I've read in this subforum.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
Clearly some people didn't watch Adam Sandler's seminal epic Reign Over Me

DLC Inc
Jun 1, 2011

one of the worst books I've ever read was Bob Chipman's Mario Bros 3 book which devolves into loving madness and extremely pitiable personal tales, like how he would sit in the driveway after work to play Gameboy or drink whiskey to get through playing Mario Bros

FirstAidKite
Nov 8, 2009
Ah, found the review.

L. Sanchez posted:

This review is full of phallic symbols, too.

Whether it is still relatively new to us, or as Westerners we are close-minded to accept what the overwhelming world of Japanese popular culture has to offer--nevertheless there are not a lot of texts published (academic or otherwise) on the topic. While it is nice to see anime and manga recognized as valid art forms, personally, I don't find Susan Napier to be the one to write about these sorts of things. I was forced to read this book for a class on the visual pop culture of Japan, and although I am not entirely familiar with many of the series she mentions, I still know the difference between a good and bad argument in academic writing.

Although she means well and brings up relevant points (like the three types of series: elegiac, festival, and apocalyptic plotlines) and has the occasional interesting and original interpretation or idea (though scarce), the book soon becomes chapter after chapter of Freudian thought and it's not only tiresome, but it makes me question if she is doing this for shock value and sex appeal, or if she truly believes InuYasha's sword is a phallic symbol or the blood smeared on San's ("Princess Mononoke"'s) face is reflective of her menstrual cycle, which Napier uses to instantly suggest she is feminine and fertile, while immediately countering it with counts of San's masculine acts, constantly in this wishy-washy pattern that makes the book hard to comprehend. It was amusing the first time, but it just becomes ludicrous how often she thinks of characters and symbols sexually, instead of for what they are or other possible interpretations, and sees gender as a black-and-white issue, and has to bring it up for every series, regardless of its demographics. She stretches it a little too far when she analyzes the grotesquely pornographic anime "Legend of Overfiend" and suggests "the film's orgy sequences may hint at the financial orgies engaged in by Japan's newly rich at the height of the bubble economy" (273). I don't know about you, but I think most of the people who enjoy pornography aren't watching it for the profound political satire and social critiques.

If you enjoy reading bad arguments and wondering how many times you can see the word "vagina" in a chapter (13 times in chapter 4), and if you are also a fan of really dated anime and authors who twist their source material and use selective but completely irrelevant quotes to fit their arguments, then I would recommend this book. Otherwise, stay far away from it.
The saddest part is that this was an updated version, and as it has errors of its own, it makes me wonder how many errors were in the first edition (From Akira to Princess Mononoke), and if any of those errors were fixed. It also makes me wonder, and a little afraid, if Napier will update this book again with more relevant anime series or films (From Akira to...Ponyo?) and I can only hope for the best in the future of Japanese popular culture in the Western world.

ONE YEAR LATER
Apr 13, 2004

Fry old buddy, it's me, Bender!
Oven Wrangler

haveblue posted:

Probably something by Piers Anthony in the 90s.

The worst book I voluntarily bought and read for myself as an adult is whichever of the Wheel of Time books I quit the series on, googling suggests it was 9 out of an eventual 14.

Winter's Heart has a really good ending. The next book, Crossroads of Twilight, is bad. It's basically 1300 pages of catch up for characters that haven't been in the last few books. Then the author up and died and someone else finished the books and those books are good, fun, pulpy trash.

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦
I own a random L. Ron Hubbard book that’s pretty dire, though it’s still better than Misery.

Wildtortilla
Jul 8, 2008
Work is canceled because of snow today! I started the day by reading Fellowship of the Ring in bed for two hours while drinking coffee. Now I'm making strawberries and waffles and some more coffee.

Pretty soon I'll be resuming my best run of FTL to date (which will probably end in sadness and disappointment before too long - I'm approaching 30 hours and still no wins).

Snow days as an adult rule.

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

oddium posted:

the worst book i ever read... that's right... it's ya freaking post history !! :twisted:

...!

:negative:

PantsBandit
Oct 26, 2007

it is both a monkey and a boombox
I got somewhat invested in the Hunger Games books. They were never incredible but I found them to be decently entertaining.

The final one, Mockingjay, was seriously a steaming pile of poo poo. Katniss spends the majority of the book faffing about, or getting people killed. Storylines are hastily wrapped up in the most sloppy way possible. The political stuff is meant to be "BUT SHADES OF GREY, RIGHT?!" but ends up feeling completely pointless by the end.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

ONE YEAR LATER posted:

Winter's Heart has a really good ending. The next book, Crossroads of Twilight, is bad. It's basically 1300 pages of catch up for characters that haven't been in the last few books. Then the author up and died and someone else finished the books and those books are good, fun, pulpy trash.

Yeah, that sounds more right. I remember the specific reason I quit was that I realized I had just finished an entire book that covered the same span of time that had been covered by one chapter of the previous book.

haveblue fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Mar 7, 2018

Saint Freak
Apr 16, 2007

Regretting is an insult to oneself
Buglord
The worst book is the Final Fantasy 9 BradyGames PlayOnline Strategy Guide.

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
My friend gave me his copy of Final Fantasy XV for free, so now I'm downloading 30gig patches and staring at store pages as I try to deduce what I need for this game. And that's not even touching the background material. I sincerely love it! it's a multimedia experience. I love that FF15 is relatable mess that stands as an eternal testament that "Video Games Are Extremely Hard To Make"

Looper
Mar 1, 2012

He's married

suuma
Apr 2, 2009
FF15 was really good but also felt really disjointed so just set your expectations accordingly. It probably would help to watch Kingsglaive too.

Real Name Grover
Feb 13, 2002

Like corn on the cob
Fan of Britches
Birdo as Commentary on the Iran-Contra scandal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQkSmyzSGw8

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Looper posted:

He's married

Well poo poo, what's my excuse then?

al-azad
May 28, 2009



Looper posted:

He's married

You can't marry your loose cartridge of Duck Hunt except maybe in the state of Nevada.

codenameFANGIO
May 4, 2012

What are you even booing here?

al-azad posted:

You can't marry your loose cartridge of Duck Hunt except maybe in the state of Nevada.

*quietly removes wedding ring*

DLC Inc
Jun 1, 2011

suuma posted:

FF15 was really good but also felt really disjointed so just set your expectations accordingly. It probably would help to watch Kingsglaive too.

for a long while, FF15 is a wonderful game about the adventures of a young prince and his buddies cruising the countryside of his kingdom, doing oddjobs and winning favor with the common man while uncovering various magic objects in his ancestors' tombs to become a better king, while also battling annoying encroaching armies.

Then, in the latter third of the game, you are literally railroaded into a series of decreasingly fun scenarios in a rapidly unwinding story, which is only saved by two aesthetically extraordinary final bosses.

I played at launch so maybe the game is much much better now though. I was kind of pissed that so much extra content only came waaaaaay after release but I'm glad other people on PC will likely have a really great experience with what looks like a very nice port.

DLC Inc fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Mar 7, 2018

suuma
Apr 2, 2009
Yeah, I thought it was great. But every hour or two there's what feels like 5 minutes of backstory or cinema missing from the story. It almost made me feel like I was accidentally skipping stuff.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




The part where you defend the powerplant was so weird i still have no clue wtf led me there, why i had to do it, or what they were thinking

FirstAidKite
Nov 8, 2009
Have any of you ever messed around with modding the game Tales of Maj'Eyal?

DLC Inc
Jun 1, 2011

Real hurthling! posted:

The part where you defend the powerplant was so weird i still have no clue wtf led me there, why i had to do it, or what they were thinking

the big reveal about one of the characters afterwards, and the subsequent "who cares" shrug that follows, is one of the most amazing examples of indifference in a game story ever

Saint Freak
Apr 16, 2007

Regretting is an insult to oneself
Buglord
That power plant was Jared's favorite power plant and it would be shameful if you allowed anything to happen to it.



edit: Fun fact the strategy guide has a chart that explicitly spells out who certain characters like Jared are, because lol if you thought the game was going to.

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
i read multiple plot summaries for kingsglaive and the anime and the lore guide in the tutorial. i am ready

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



Also you need to watch the Brotherhood anime

Saint Freak
Apr 16, 2007

Regretting is an insult to oneself
Buglord

DLC Inc posted:

the big reveal about one of the characters afterwards, and the subsequent "who cares" shrug that follows, is one of the most amazing examples of indifference in a game story ever

Huh, I wonder how that's gonna come up again.

Ron Howard Voiceover: It would never come up again.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

if you were doing a book about anime a to ____ why would you stop at p. i mean i guess all the q anime i can think of are fanservice crap but shes talking about overfiend so clearly that isnt a barrier to entry.

Phantasium
Dec 27, 2012

Real hurthling! posted:

The part where you defend the powerplant was so weird i still have no clue wtf led me there, why i had to do it, or what they were thinking

They've since added a tiny bit of dialog before that happens saying you got a call from Cindy saying the mythril needed to be refined in that power plant before the same disjointed events happen.

Before it was literally just a tooltip on the loading screen between leaving that area and going to the power plant telling you what was happening.

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Jay Rust
Sep 27, 2011

FirstAidKite posted:

Have any of you ever messed around with modding the game Tales of Maj'Eyal?

Do you mean just adding mods, or actually making mods?

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