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twitter is already populated by dudes who think they're spartans, not much would change
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Come back within 140 characters or don't come back at all
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Fo3 posted:Assyrians blog
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:Come back within 140 characters or don't come back at all lol if you don't gruesomely murder a helot and steal their 140 to add to yours
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I'm reading Gene Wolfe's Soldier of the Mist, which I'm led to believe is fairly well researched, and early on the main character and pals are enslaved by a Spartan wagon train. There's mention of the helots having their own slaves, and I was wondering if that was actually a thing. I thought Spartans had way too tight a fist on their own slaves to let them have even more slaves. (Of course I could be entirely wrong about what happened, since the book is intentionally confusing and I'm not very smart.)
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packetmantis posted:I'm reading Gene Wolfe's Soldier of the Mist, which I'm led to believe is fairly well researched, and early on the main character and pals are enslaved by a Spartan wagon train. There's mention of the helots having their own slaves, and I was wondering if that was actually a thing. I thought Spartans had way too tight a fist on their own slaves to let them have even more slaves. I know perioikoi in Sparta owned slaves, but I'm not aware that helots did.
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Vaginal Vagrant posted:Do you have a more realistic estimate? I take it these numbers we're talking are the entire tribes including non combatants? All numbers given for ancient armies and battles are exaggerated, with a few exceptions. I haven't researched this specific situation but if you cut both sides in half you're probably closer to the reality. As for how much of a nomad group is its fighting strength, 10-20% is the usual estimate.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:As a queer man there will always be a special place in my heart for all the pompeiian grafittiers who were like "weeping be unto you, all women, for the cock of flavius shall now find no home but the asses of men" i baked a loaf of bread
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Does anyone have the cock in rear end graffiti Inthe original Latin?
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FreudianSlippers posted:Does anyone have the cock in rear end graffiti Inthe original Latin? Ask us about Roman/ancient history: Does anyone have the cock in rear end graffiti in the original Latin?
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Guildencrantz posted:Ask us about Roman/ancient history: Does anyone have the cock in rear end graffiti in the original Latin? I wish the title character limit was larger.
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FreudianSlippers posted:Does anyone have the cock in rear end graffiti Inthe original Latin? I poked around in the University of Köln's online edition of Corpus Inscriptionum Latinarum for a while and found what I'm pretty sure is the right entry, buried in the second supplement to Vol 4. It's number 3932 at the top here.  Sadly the inscription is a bit fragmentary and the translator seems to have been editorializing about the penis. He was also clearly possessed of a refined poetic spirit; "femininity" lol. It's clear that our first-century shitposter is sodomizing, but not strictly clear (to me anyway, I don't have much Latin and could easily be misreading this or forgetting an obvious connotation of "paedicat") that he is sodomizing men's behinds. He could be sodomizing anyone! The bit right beneath that (still in 3932) is also interesting but I can't really parse it, something along the lines of "I came here often to write 'I hosed' (on the wall)" maybe?
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Mar 7, 2018 17:29
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Ask us about Roman/ancient history: he could be sodomizing anyone!
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Grand Fromage posted:I wish the title character limit was larger. Could cut the "us" and the "does"
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I still think my favorite graffiti is the one complaining about that one rear end in a top hat who keeps eating out women against the city walls  Although the one from the happy dude talking about how him and his brother came to town, drank and ate to excess and then banged every woman they could is surprisingly heartwarming 
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Aside from cock in rear end my favorite is the one where a doctor to the emperor just states that he took a poo poo where he wrote it.
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Jerusalem posted:Although the one from the happy dude talking about how him and his brother came to town, drank and ate to excess and then banged every woman they could is surprisingly heartwarming
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Did Pompey have a single military victory that wasn't just mopping up the remnants of an already defeated enemy/decrepit state?
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Mar 8, 2018 02:38
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Does settling the pirate problem in the Mediterranean in record time count because that's impressive, but not necessarily military? Also, who else was he supposed to fight? At this point Rome was the regional superpower.
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His leadership in the Sertorian war was pretty solid. As far as possible opponents to fight, Quintus Sertorius is pretty up there.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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PittTheElder posted:As far as possible opponents to fight, Quintus Sertorius is pretty up there. Didn't Quintus Caecilius Metellus Pius actually do the bulk of the work there only for Pompey to basically swoop in and claim the glory like Shimrra Jamaane said? Or am I mixing up actual history with Colleen McCullough's (excellent) books again?
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Jerusalem posted:Didn't Quintus Caecilius Metellus Pius actually do the bulk of the work there only for Pompey to basically swoop in and claim the glory like Shimrra Jamaane said? Or am I mixing up actual history with Colleen McCullough's (excellent) books again? Metellus Pius was losing against Sertorius when Pompey got there. Metellus Pius started winning victories after Pompey showed up, mostly because the two of them were able to split Sertorius's forces so that Sertorius couldn't protect his subordinates and allies. Ultimately, of course, it was Perperna who defeated Sertorius.
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My favorite ancient graffiti is still the dude who etched the word "CATCH!" into a sling stone.
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As far as sling stone messages go, you can’t top “I seek Fulvia’s clitoris”
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Isn't there one in there about Lucius going bald as well? 
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Any of you know a good Domitian book? As I was making class materials today I realized he's a big gap in my knowledge, I don't know anything other than the ancient sources thought he was a tyrannical prick. He was emperor for a while so he must've done something worth knowing about.
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Only thing I've read myself that goes into any real detail on him is his section in The Twelve Caesars, and from memory it's probably the shortest chapter in the book. The Emperor Domitian by Brian W. Jones is supposedly a more balanced look at his life and reign beyond "Vespasian's shittier son/Titus' dick brother" but its reviews suggest it's not exactly a must-read. Edit: For a comedy option, he's a recurring antagonist in the Falco series of detective novels 
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Although those books are set during Vespasian's reign.
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Kassad posted:Although those books are set during Vespasian's reign. The follow up series with Flavia Albia is set during Domitian’s reign though.
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I, forum user Grevling, shat here most agreeably. The innkeeper deserves a flogging! Anyway, that's my grafitti so valete. Probably should have said "I, Grevling, shitposted in this thread most agreeably." Grevling fucked around with this message at 13:15 on Mar 8, 2018 |
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:My favorite ancient graffiti is still the dude who etched the word "CATCH!" into a sling stone. that's another one of those things that just humanizes everything from so long ago
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Grand Fromage posted:Any of you know a good Domitian book? As I was making class materials today I realized he's a big gap in my knowledge, I don't know anything other than the ancient sources thought he was a tyrannical prick. He was emperor for a while so he must've done something worth knowing about. i don't know any particularly good books, but my memories of the highlights of domitian are that he was the one who began to erode the charade of the princeps by openly acting like a monarch and micromanaged a bunch of economic & infrastructure stuff that the empire desperately needed. he pissed off the senate something fierce by treating them mostly as a social club that had power only at his allowance, and also by purging their rolls under the cover of defending public morality and all that jazz. i think there were some inconclusive frontier wars that didn't move any boundaries. he always struck me as someone who read obsessively about augustus and desperately wanted to be him, but just didn't have the social grace or patience to pull it off
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skasion posted:As far as sling stone messages go, you can’t top “I seek Fulvia’s clitoris” rock clitty bitch, rock rock clitty bitch ten ten ten twenties and them fifties bitch
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Does anything know about what Greek soldiers ate? I've been translating some of Archilochus' poems as part of my studies and there was this elegy: "In the spear is my kneaded bread, in the spear my Ismarian wine, when I drink I recline on the spear." The word for bread here is [i]maza[/], funnily enough where we get our word "mass" from. It just means a kneaded mass. In my commentaries it is suggested that it's either figurative (he earns his bread and wine soldiering) or that he literally carries some bread and wine on his spear, as I think Mycenean soldiers are depicted once. Ismaric wine is the same wine Odysseus uses to get the Cyclops drunk, so strong enough that you can carry just a small amount for diluting. But the author also suggests that maza was a dough to which they added water and then ate uncooked. That sounds unpleasant. Maybe they made little cakes out of the barley and cooked them in their campfires? I just made some barley cakes now and cooked them in a frying pan like little tortillas. Not too bad, in fact.
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Now add some gravel, perhaps a few bugs in various degrees of growth and either undercook it or over cook it and you probably had something near what they are.
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Why says I didn't? (I didn't)
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Jazerus posted:i don't know any particularly good books, but my memories of the highlights of domitian are that he was the one who began to erode the charade of the princeps by openly acting like a monarch and micromanaged a bunch of economic & infrastructure stuff that the empire desperately needed. he pissed off the senate something fierce by treating them mostly as a social club that had power only at his allowance, and also by purging their rolls under the cover of defending public morality and all that jazz. i think there were some inconclusive frontier wars that didn't move any boundaries. Well, he did pull it off reasonably well until he got shanked. He ruled for fifteen years which is longer than anyone had since Tiberius, he survived at least one serious military reverse and at least one major revolt, and you could argue that his reign set a precedent for the long-term, autocratic reigns of the Antonines. I think Tiberius is probably the best comparison to him honestly, both inherited the supreme power after their famous, charismatic and successful relations seized it by force, both had a somewhat difficult relationship with those relations and a very different leadership style, both seem to have been kind of weird and hard to like personally, both had a tendency to ignore Roman civil life and do their own thing, both got increasingly bad reputations with the elite and developed tyrannical streak as their reigns went on, both seem to have actually run the empire pretty well for the most part except for the nasty situation with the elite of Rome itself.
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Grevling posted:Does anything know about what Greek soldiers ate? I've been translating some of Archilochus' poems as part of my studies and there was this elegy: Is the Hebrew word matzo related to that Greek word, or is that just a coincidence?
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Grevling posted:Does anything know about what Greek soldiers ate? I've been translating some of Archilochus' poems as part of my studies and there was this elegy: It looks like someone else was inspired by that elegy: Ancient Recipe: Maza
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