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Impending 20 minute video to own Something Awful forums user “Kim Justice.”
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Mar 7, 2018 23:25
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Hbomberguy posted:Imagine, briefly, that someone linked one of your videos here and wrote 'no-one gives a poo poo about spectrum games from the 80s, this is pointless fluff' *Sigh*...maybe you're right. I mean, I'm most certainly not the target audience, and I've certainly devoted too much emotion to it. I just get...frustrated? Look at the comments on Kotaku's Tweet and the article - it's just another artificial salt mine. You've got one side being all like "THIS IS ANOTHER ATTACK ON GAMERS", you've got the other side being like "You're too dumb to get it" and I find it all supremely tiresome. While Grayson's article itself isn't necessarily worthy of such reactions, the presentation and title don't help, as much as the kneejerk reactions? (Yes...including mine) Just makes me throw my hands up and be all like ffs. Like, even articles like these are suddenly flashpoints in THE GREAT PATRIOTIC CULTURE WAR I'm tired brah
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Mar 7, 2018 23:34
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Anxiety sucks. It’s why I don’t play games. And when I do, I get anxious. Vicious cycle.
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Mar 7, 2018 23:47
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Hbomberguy posted:Imagine, briefly, that someone linked one of your videos here and wrote 'no-one gives a poo poo about spectrum games from the 80s, this is pointless fluff' Just because you're not the target audience doesn't mean that you're incapable of judging whether or not something's bad. I could say that about you, HBomb. You might say, "Well, Monster Hunter is a really bad series", and I could say, "It's not that the series is bad, you're just not the target audience." The article sucks because it doesn't really have a point; it's just Grayson going "Man, I don't know how to be nice around these seemingly nice OW players!" It's not really about Overwatch. It brings up the point of the game's toxic community, but that's not really relevant to the crux of the article. I'd call it navel-gazing, but even that doesn't feel appropriate. It actually feels more like the beginning of another article, only separated out. It's like if this were a lead in to a longer article about anxiety in relation to social interaction in video game, and it discussed studies or how other people cope or deal with that kind of thing, then it would feel more appropriate. As it is, it's just kind of a nothing article. It probably annoys people because you say, "The problem with OW's community is that players are too toxic", but then you turn around and have an article like this, with the headline, "OW's Nicest Players Are Giving Me Anxiety", and it comes across that you just complain regardless of the situation. Max Wilco fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Mar 7, 2018 |
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Mar 7, 2018 23:49
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Anxiety is so bad you should not write articles about it. It will become nonsense and people will resent you.
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Mar 7, 2018 23:50
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Kim Justice posted:*Sigh*...maybe you're right. I mean, I'm most certainly not the target audience, and I've certainly devoted too much emotion to it. I just get...frustrated? Look at the comments on Kotaku's Tweet and the article - it's just another artificial salt mine. You've got one side being all like "THIS IS ANOTHER ATTACK ON GAMERS", you've got the other side being like "You're too dumb to get it" and I find it all supremely tiresome. While Grayson's article itself isn't necessarily worthy of such reactions, the presentation and title don't help, as much as the kneejerk reactions? (Yes...including mine) Just makes me throw my hands up and be all like ffs. Like, even articles like these are suddenly flashpoints in THE GREAT PATRIOTIC CULTURE WAR seems pretty easy to not type in kotaku.com into your web browser
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Mar 7, 2018 23:54
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Serf posted:seems pretty easy to not type in kotaku.com into your web browser True, but you have less control over what you Twitter feed shows you. https://twitter.com/slowbeef/status/971117945404428288 https://twitter.com/slowbeef/status/971120728404832257
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Mar 8, 2018 00:19
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Max Wilco posted:True, but you have less control over what you Twitter feed shows you. Man, twitter shows you tweets from Slowbeef? I'm sorry to hear that.
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Mar 8, 2018 00:36
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Slowbeef is a good boy.
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Mar 8, 2018 00:45
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Max Wilco posted:True, but you have less control over what you Twitter feed shows you. seems pretty easy to not click on articles that will just make you mad from sites you don’t like but if your point is that corporations have deliberately engineered this incredible communications tool into an endless hellscape then yes i agree
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Mar 8, 2018 01:01
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Leal posted:Man, twitter shows you tweets from Slowbeef? I'm sorry to hear that. I mean, I guess I could stop following him. When I stopped following Bob Mackey's Twitter, my feed got 200% better! However, I like Slowbeef, and I think he needs the support. Yardbomb posted:Slowbeef is a good boy.  Serf posted:seems pretty easy to not click on articles that will just make you mad from sites you don’t like Again, that's true. I would argue that the excuse, "If you don't like, then don't read/watch it or bring it up" has been dismissed, but maybe it depends on the context. Max Wilco fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Mar 8, 2018 |
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Mar 8, 2018 01:35
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Kim Justice posted:Why don't you talk properly? Is the thing "thinking an article is crap"? I mean, I've had crippling social anxiety too, and I kinda related to that article, but okay. Augus fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Mar 8, 2018 |
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Mar 8, 2018 01:47
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Augus posted:I mean, I've had crippling social anxiety too, and I kinda related to that article, but okay. Like I said, an article about anxiety in relation to social interaction in video games would be interesting, but the article in question doesn't seem like it digs into it deep enough. Max Wilco fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Mar 8, 2018 |
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Mar 8, 2018 02:17
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Max Wilco posted:Again, that's true. I would argue that the excuse, "If you don't like, then don't read/watch it or bring it up" has been dismissed, but maybe it depends on the context. seems like if its causing the commenter in question stress, maybe just avoid it. i do understand the impulse to seek out things you don't like, of course. i sustain myself on poo poo that i hate
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Mar 8, 2018 02:26
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I can't believe we're getting derailed by that article, of all things.
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Mar 8, 2018 02:41
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The Ready Player One movie posters are the kind of thing you might want to see exactly once. Twitter is really bad about that kind of stuff. I've seen various forms of people dunking on the Frankenstein sun article a ton over the past few days. Probably 3 different viral tweets about it and one of them more than once.
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Mar 8, 2018 02:42
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Max Wilco posted:Just because you're not the target audience doesn't mean that you're incapable of judging whether or not something's bad. I could say that about you, HBomb. You might say, "Well, Monster Hunter is a really bad series", and I could say, "It's not that the series is bad, you're just not the target audience." "What is this, some kind of game journal?"
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Mar 8, 2018 05:18
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Hbomberguy posted:I haven't reviewed monster hunter beyond small jokes for the precise reason that it definitely is not for me. So I would agree with you there, actually: I haven't made videos about monster hunter for the same reason it would be odd to critique a gaming website op ed someone wrote about the feelings a game gave them on the basis that it fails to be majorly substantive analysis. I was wondering why you hadn't done a video about Monster Hunter, but I guess that makes sense.
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Mar 8, 2018 06:07
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Yardbomb posted:Slowbeef is a good boy. Speaking of, The Beef has some Thoughts on RP1 that any sane person would benefit from hearing.
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Mar 8, 2018 08:58
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Puppy Time posted:I can't believe we're getting derailed by that article, of all things. Is this really a derail? No one's flaming each other, the page isn't full of spoilers...anyway, I've said my piece and am "over it" as they say. Mr. Biffo (who did the weird "Found Footage" last year) is going to be relaunching his classic teletext game mag Digitiser in YouTube form on Kickstarter tomorrow, which is VERY exciting.
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Mar 8, 2018 13:07
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Kim Justice posted:I've said my piece and am "over it" as they say. Kim justice confirmed to not be hbomb
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Mar 8, 2018 13:31
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Kim Justice posted:Is this really a derail? No one's flaming each other, the page isn't full of spoilers...anyway, I've said my piece and am "over it" as they say. I mean, when it's taking up the majority of the conversation...
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Mar 8, 2018 15:33
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Puppy Time posted:I mean, when it's taking up the majority of the conversation... Well then most everything could be classed as a derail. For me a derail's a multi-page full on argument where people are shouting and swearing at each other, whereas here everyone's cool.
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Mar 8, 2018 15:46
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So, anytime someone replies to BOTL, in other words.
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Mar 8, 2018 16:09
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I mean, I would definitely call that a derail, and I think it speaks to how much of a mess this thread is that name calling and flaming has to happen in order to qualify.
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Mar 8, 2018 16:16
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Here's Leonard French, actual copyright attorney on Youtube, going over the case of Pepe's creator suing the gently caress out of Alex Jones for copyright infringement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl_p2m_63dw I highly recommend Leonard if you're vaguely interested in this stuff; he's nice, great at explaining the law, and he features his adorable dogs a lot. 
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Mar 8, 2018 16:27
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Puppy Time posted:Here's Leonard French, actual copyright attorney on Youtube, going over the case of Pepe's creator suing the gently caress out of Alex Jones for copyright infringement: Leonard J. Crabs is rea-  Oh, different Leonard.
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Mar 8, 2018 16:35
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FreezingInferno posted:So, anytime someone replies to BOTL, in other words. I am ruthless and cruel.
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Mar 8, 2018 16:45
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtePG4Pon_M God Mike has gotten really cynical about movies for the past few years, that and I think its dumb to think blockbusters are causing American audiences to be dumb, humanity has always enjoyed bombastic fluff over everything else. I don't know why escapism is seen as so bad these days.
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Mar 8, 2018 18:21
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Because it makes you look cool in front of film snobs
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Mar 8, 2018 18:36
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well part of their schtick is being drunk midwesterners who hate movies but review them anyway. see any Nerd Crew video. but honestly, I'll afford them being a little heavy (purple) handed here, given their point: this is Jay's weird horror poo poo and Mike's weird science fiction poo poo in a slower movie, an interesting movie that is both very much their poo poo, and no studio had confidence in it. No one wants it but them. They can be a little disheartened and frustrated about that.
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Mar 8, 2018 18:49
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That review was secretly another 2016 Ghostbusters complaint video. That's three videos in three calendar years about it!
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Mar 8, 2018 18:50
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The thing is that Jay is the one who watches small indie and art movies but he always appears to be less snobbish and cynical than Mike.But it has to be jading to watch every single movie that comes out because there is always a trend so it must get super repetitive. I was at a Q&A with Mike some years ago and he seemed kind of tired of having to still have to talk about the Star Wars reviews. They showed the Plinkett "Cop Dog" review which was one my favorite Plinkett reviews (I haven't seen it in years). Some (possibly wasted) nerd started his question out with "I don't give a gently caress about the dog cop movie or RLM" and proceeded to talk for like a minute about his thoughts on the Star Wars prequels only to end it with asking if they would make more Star Wars prequel stuff. It was awkward and I get why he might have lost some of his mojo. Edit: It's also kind of his shtick so yeah. Sarcopenia fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Mar 8, 2018 |
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Mar 8, 2018 18:57
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Sounds like your typically bad parts of fandom. It's why going to any kind of sci-fi convention and watching a Q&A session is awkward. You always get that one dipshit who think they're special and talks for minutes on end at the expensive of other people getting a chance to ask a question.
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Mar 8, 2018 19:02
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also they didn't really say mass appeal movies make people dumber, just that americans are dumb and only like cartoons and comics which is a safe thing to say in l'age d'trump
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Mar 8, 2018 19:10
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It is super obvious that they have long since moved on from Star Wars. One thing that makes them pretty unique in terms of internet film critics, is that that they don't really like all that many "traditional nerd" franchises and that they don't fake enthusiasm for stuff they don't care for. Basically everything they make fun off in the Nerdcrew videos. I figure, growing up they were fans of the original, didn't like the Prequel trilogy and since they were also film students/geeks, decided to make a long video on what they didn't like about them.
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Mar 8, 2018 19:44
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I always understood the prequel reviews as a way to "move on" from Star Wars. Like it was supposed to be the last, long conversation people were supposed to ever have about Star Wars. The most comprehensive analysis of the technical failures of those films. But then Disney happened and we're now getting one every year just to torment Mike.
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Mar 8, 2018 20:36
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https://twitter.com/SimpsonsQOTD/status/971787101548269568
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Mar 8, 2018 20:42
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so speaking of reviews of weird loving movie, nyx fears has a review of this movie called Every Day up and even though she laughs at it... this sounds like a really hosed up movie presented as a cute romantic movie.
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Mar 8, 2018 20:54
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Hemingway To Go! posted:so speaking of reviews of weird loving movie, nyx fears has a review of this movie called Every Day up and even though she laughs at it... this sounds like a really hosed up movie presented as a cute romantic movie. Yeah, it's kinda like 50 first dates with an alien
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