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EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
The 'THAT'S RACIST!' response to the real issue of Chinese mainlanders laundering ill gotten money in Canada while destroying the affordability of an entire region of this country is Exhibit loving A in the case against trying so loving hard to be the most progressive kid on the block that you end up making everything worse.

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Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum
The best part is Koalas March doing the same poo poo to black people relentlessly, generally making GBS threads up the USPol threads to a worse degree than CI, and getting her own subforum for her efforts instead of eating a permaban.

Nice double standards there, really tasty.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
Oh also take one guess at the nationality of the 'investors' who would occasionally walk through the burnt out husk of a building that I was told to insulate and drywall despite the fact that the roof was leaking, and then was told to just slit the vapor barrier and drain the water that'd seeped through the ceiling soaked the insulation and pooled on the plastic, before I decided that I couldn't stand working for that company anymore and arranged to part ways with rather than sticking it out until I could find another job.

I hope the poor souls that end up living in that building aren't sensitive to mold but knowing this thread if the people who end up with chronic health problems are white you'll probably say that they had their health issues coming.

But at least with the money they saved the investors can afford the Audi they were driving, their expensive jackets and her gaudy boots that looked like sparkly gold stupid elf shoes but probably still cost more than I made in a week and can roll around looking like a loving stereotype and cry 'OMG YOU RACIST!' when people eventually ask them what part they played in inflicting chronic breathing issues on people who can't afford to live anywhere nicer than North Point Douglas.

Eox
Jun 20, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
This is a Great Leap Forward for CanPol.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Rime posted:

The best part is Koalas March doing the same poo poo to black people relentlessly, generally making GBS threads up the USPol threads to a worse degree than CI, and getting her own subforum for her efforts instead of eating a permaban.

Nice double standards there, really tasty.

Actually, Koalas March is extremely good. And so was Tiny Brontosaurus, who ended up being permabanned.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

I'm sad to see the cranky posting man is banned

Edit: Sincerely, btw

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord
How much :10bux: to mod CI

Eox
Jun 20, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
I'd say it's about time we had some moderation with Canadian characteristics

The Dipshit
Dec 21, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

Rime posted:

The best part is Koalas March doing the same poo poo to black people relentlessly, generally making GBS threads up the USPol threads to a worse degree than CI, and getting her own subforum for her efforts instead of eating a permaban.

Nice double standards there, really tasty.

Wait, the TGRS mod talks poo poo about black people in the USPol thread? Did I parse that right?

CI/NM was a bit of a dick, but yeah, call me surprised at him getting Perma'ed. I can understand Tiny Brontosaurus's since she loved telling everyone to kill themselves in a non-joking manner and all.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?

EvilJoven posted:

Oh also take one guess at the nationality of the 'investors' who would occasionally walk through the burnt out husk of a building that I was told to insulate and drywall despite the fact that the roof was leaking, and then was told to just slit the vapor barrier and drain the water that'd seeped through the ceiling soaked the insulation and pooled on the plastic, before I decided that I couldn't stand working for that company anymore and arranged to part ways with rather than sticking it out until I could find another job.

I hope the poor souls that end up living in that building aren't sensitive to mold but knowing this thread if the people who end up with chronic health problems are white you'll probably say that they had their health issues coming.

But at least with the money they saved the investors can afford the Audi they were driving, their expensive jackets and her gaudy boots that looked like sparkly gold stupid elf shoes but probably still cost more than I made in a week and can roll around looking like a loving stereotype and cry 'OMG YOU RACIST!' when people eventually ask them what part they played in inflicting chronic breathing issues on people who can't afford to live anywhere nicer than North Point Douglas.

Did you sign a NDA or anything when you started working there? You should goto the Freep or CBC with this poo poo, I could probably get a reporter to contact you if you are interested

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Triangle Shirt Factotum posted:

Wait, the TGRS mod talks poo poo about black people in the USPol thread? Did I parse that right?

Yeah, I can't say I've ever seen that.

quote:

CI/NM was a bit of a dick, but yeah, call me surprised at him getting Perma'ed. I can understand Tiny Brontosaurus's since she loved telling everyone to kill themselves in a non-joking manner and all.

To be completely fair to TB, most of those people would have been rather improved by death.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe

DariusLikewise posted:

Did you sign a NDA or anything when you started working there? You should goto the Freep or CBC with this poo poo, I could probably get a reporter to contact you if you are interested

Tempting, but snitches get stitches and all that. I don't feel like tangling with people who have money.

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum

Triangle Shirt Factotum posted:

Wait, the TGRS mod talks poo poo about black people in the USPol thread? Did I parse that right?

CI/NM was a bit of a dick, but yeah, call me surprised at him getting Perma'ed. I can understand Tiny Brontosaurus's since she loved telling everyone to kill themselves in a non-joking manner and all.

Ah, yeah, brainfart while typing. KM's shtick is "Kill Whitey", which is politically correct around here. I guess CI should have just harped on "Bougie White Motherfuckers" more? :confused:

A Typical Goon
Feb 25, 2011

Triangle Shirt Factotum posted:

Wait, the TGRS mod talks poo poo about black people in the USPol thread? Did I parse that right?

CI/NM was a bit of a dick, but yeah, call me surprised at him getting Perma'ed. I can understand Tiny Brontosaurus's since she loved telling everyone to kill themselves in a non-joking manner and all.

Koalas March is black and talks about institutional racism and things of that nature all the time in the Trump thread. Not shocking noted CI defender Rime is also a but reverse racism!! type

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Rime posted:

Ah, yeah, brainfart while typing. KM's shtick is "Kill Whitey", which is politically correct around here.

:qq: But won't somebody think of the whites? :qq:

Tighclops
Jan 23, 2008

Unable to deal with it


Grimey Drawer
I've defended CI in the past because I thought he could be funny, but how hard is it not to be racist all the time? If you're that upset that he's not here to post links, you could post links too; be the change you want to see and all that.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


I would just like to point out that if we ignored his bad advice back in 2013 when he started this thread, we'd all be real estate millionaires right now. It's embarassing for him to have been so wrong 5 years on, he should have left voluntarily out of shame.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
CI's brash, in-your-face racist jokes are much less frustrating than things like Rime's "but the mean black lady said kill whitey!!!!" racism or "well, we don't know Stanley wouldn't have shot Colten Boushie if he weren't Indigenous..." handwringing. At least the former could occasionally be entertaining.

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



Are we already revising history to claim that CI was all aboard the "Chinese money laundering is fueling the housing bubble" train because he was adamantly against that idea for years and if he somehow changed his mind in the last few months it was hard to tell since 90% of his posts were lovely one-liners.

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum

PT6A posted:

CI's brash, in-your-face racist jokes are much less frustrating than things like Rime's "but the mean black lady said kill whitey!!!!" racism or "well, we don't know Stanley wouldn't have shot Colten Boushie if he weren't Indigenous..." handwringing. At least the former could occasionally be entertaining.

Whoa whoa whoa, say what you want about me making GBS threads on fellow goons but I don't post in CanLoL and don't give a poo poo about that court case nonsense. Dont put words my mouth, sir! :colbert:

The Dipshit
Dec 21, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

Rime posted:

Ah, yeah, brainfart while typing. KM's shtick is "Kill Whitey", which is politically correct around here. I guess CI should have just harped on "Bougie White Motherfuckers" more? :confused:

Ok, that makes way more sense. Not sure I am a fan of KM since the original keep your head up thread, but paralleling CI but for black people seems completely opposite from what I've seen of her.

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN
PT6A discovered anti-racism approximately six seconds ago and has already graduated himself to gatekeeper status so now he can helpfully explain what kinds of racism are actually cool.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

I had CI on ignore for the longest time purely because he had "human being" in his username, which was so odd to me that that was even allowed.

Postess with the Mostest posted:

Banning CI isn't punishment, it's mercy. This thread was started in 2013, with CI not buying a house because he thought the inflated market was due for a correction. In retrospect, totally wrong, it's gone way up. That was a life decision for him with a real impact for him and his family and he was compelled to come here everyday to be reminded of it, you can watch the regret grow month by month. CI knew racism would get him banned. You didn't ban him, you set him free. The best punishment would have been to make him only allowed to post in this thread.

Now at least when his housing crisis rage compels him to kick an old librarian in the gut and run away and the radicalization finger pointing turns to the forums we can say "nah we knew he was trouble and got rid of him".

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011
I was a little surprised but come on, "namaste human being" is a GOOD username.

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes
You can't convince me he doesn't own this https://www.namastemd.com

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Helsing posted:

PT6A discovered anti-racism approximately six seconds ago and has already graduated himself to gatekeeper status so now he can helpfully explain what kinds of racism are actually cool.

No lol it was after Trump got elected, keep your poo poo straight man.

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost
Guess I'll carry the torch of mining r/Vancouver to find the good poo poo.

The OP deleted the post after quickly being downvoted to oblivion and poo poo all over in the comments, but I got the goods:

The BC NDP Speculation Tax Hurts My Family...Here's why posted:

My family is lucky enough to have a vacay property just outside of Nanaimo. My wife's dad bought it decades ago at a great price. He got it because he wanted something in the family that his kids could enjoy and currently our children have loved.

Our family is middle class, and my father-in-law has built his own moderately successful business like a lot of people in this province. It was done through hard work with nothing given to him. I say that because there are people in this province who claim that if you have a vacay property, you must be loaded. Ummm.. no.

NOW the NDP want to roll out a Speculation Tax that is supposed to target foreign buyers but unfortunately hits our family and many others on the chin. The vacay property, that was purchased decades ago, is waterfront and the property value has gone up huge, but our family has never had plans on selling it. It is far more valuable to us than money.

Now the Government expects us to pay around $30,000 up front and maybe get SOME of that back in the form of an income tax credit? I won't go into my family's income details. Know this, we do not get that money back.

Here is the other caveat that a lot of people don't think about. There is a poo poo ton of nimbyism where our vacation property is. Basically old, wealthy people who live there full time that want people to stay off their lawn. So much so they forced the local Government to create a bylaw that doesn't allow people to rent out their vacay properties. This is common in other parts of the province too. Especially on the Island.

That Nimbyism has caused issues as people report properties if they are "illegally" renting their property out. So my Father-in-Law was warned and was forced to take the property off of rental websites. NOW the BC Government is forcing us to RENT it out or pay a lovely tax on the PROPERTY WE OWN. So basically they want us to break municipal laws, get fined, and do what we wanted to do, to begin with, but can't. So now we have to pay a speculation tax?

I know, poor us. I'm sure the have-nots, free handout people will say too bad. But for the reasonable and sensible people out there, it's more than just our story. We know of others who are in the same boat. Also, how do the people from Alberta get that income tax credit when they don't file in BC? There is a lot of things wrong with this Speculation Tax. The NDP tax first and ask questions later.

There has to be a better way to go about this.

OP further elaborates in the comments that the vacation property is currently fully paid off and worth $1.5m.

:thermidor:

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy
To be fair, if true, this sounds like a real bad thing that should be addressed through overriding legislation:

quote:

So much so they forced the local Government to create a bylaw that doesn't allow people to rent out their vacay properties. This is common in other parts of the province too. Especially on the Island.

Atma McCuddles
Sep 2, 2007

Wasting posted:

There is a real problem with foreign money laundering in Canadian real estate, especially on the west coast, especially from China, and up until the last year or so the exact same kind of instinctual pearl-clutching you're doing when anyone mentions anything negative about a visually identifiable group of people was holding back enacting any kind of reform on the matter.

That oversensitivity was being exploited quite publicly by people with vested interest in FIRE (see "the Chinese are secretive about their money" / cries of xenophobia). It's too late now, but even the RBC chief is admitting it.


CI actually did a good job at pulling together media on the issue for those of us without hours a week to sift through news and twitter.

So again, great job idiots, you're part of the problem. Your own guidelines on permabanning reference serious offences like child pornography, but given the moderation team's penchant for harbouring convicted child rapists I'm not surprised you managed to get this one mixed up.

Lurkin' in here to agree with this excellent post.

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost

Jordan7hm posted:

To be fair, if true, this sounds like a real bad thing that should be addressed through overriding legislation:

I agree, that's some bullshit. I just can't stand the attitude and the :qq:'ing of wealthy motherfuckers insisting they are middle class and taxed to deathhhhh.

And there's no way this guy would have been renting it out anyway. It's a vacation home they use often. What are they going to do, evict the tenant everytime they want to go over for the weekend?

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Triangle Shirt Factotum posted:

Wait, the TGRS mod talks poo poo about black people in the USPol thread? Did I parse that right?

CI/NM was a bit of a dick, but yeah, call me surprised at him getting Perma'ed. I can understand Tiny Brontosaurus's since she loved telling everyone to kill themselves in a non-joking manner and all.
what's surprising about it? he was warned repeatedly about that specific thing

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

If you have a vacation home, and you can no longer afford the cost of having a vacation home, consider selling the vacation home

there are people who have no home at all and you are out here complaining about the extra home you own, purely for pleasure reasons. gently caress you

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

The Butcher posted:

And there's no way this guy would have been renting it out anyway. It's a vacation home they use often. What are they going to do, evict the tenant everytime they want to go over for the weekend?
If you have a 30k tax bill to pay, you'll probably rent it out a lot more.

Short term cottage rentals are pretty common elsewhere.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

-CI talked many out of buying a condo or house around 2010, would have made out like a bandit but he was adamant the crash was any year now and you're a loving idiot unfit to manage your own money if you didn't believe him.
-CI repeatedly said chinese money was NOT a factor in the Vancouver bubble, it was entirely idiot greedy canadians, canadians are just so stupid, foreign money has nothing to do with this which is why it will pop very soon if only the idiot government would introduce some macrofinancial measures.
-CI would brutally mock anyone who said trump had a chance of winning the republican nomination then told anyone who thought he had a chance of winning the election they were an idiot who doesn't understand basic math and statistics that proves his election is impossible.

He'd fwfwfw a lot of good tweets and articles and sometimes be funny but it was just this constant barrage of low-effort snark and negativity hoping something stuck to the wall. There was a time when canpol was much more pro-liberal and JT and optimistic about the NDP, and he'd inject a needed dose of cynicism. But at this point that thread is more than cynical enough on its own. Recently he ended up seemingly replying to posts no one made, mocking positions no one in the thread held as if it's all he knew how to post. "you stupid white liberal SJW's are idiots for thinking X and Y" when no one even mentioned X or Y.

Perma seems a bit brutal but maybe it was time to put him out to pasture where he can peacefully cycle out his feelings?

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
To be fair, saying the housing equivalent of "you shouldn't put six to seven figures on black and see what happens," is still good advice, even if the roulette wheel comes up black on the next spin. The bitcoin skeptics weren't "wrong" either. Part of investing is realizing that money you didn't make is not the same as money you lost.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

PT6A posted:

To be fair, saying the housing equivalent of "you shouldn't put six to seven figures on black and see what happens," is still good advice, even if the roulette wheel comes up black on the next spin. The bitcoin skeptics weren't "wrong" either. Part of investing is realizing that money you didn't make is not the same as money you lost.

Oh yeah, I'm personally glad I didn't buy because even after tracking the specific condos we were looking at back then they haven't appreciated quite enough to justify it, and we want a place to live, not invest in, what matters is what it's worth in 10 years or 15 years from now, not the paper gains you'd have made in hindsight if you bought in and sold out at the perfect moments.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


eXXon posted:

Are we already revising history to claim that CI was all aboard the "Chinese money laundering is fueling the housing bubble" train because he was adamantly against that idea for years and if he somehow changed his mind in the last few months it was hard to tell since 90% of his posts were lovely one-liners.

True, he was mostly about how dumb Canadians were for taking out so much money in mortgages. But he was also angry about how little data was collected on foreign ownership, the failure of the government to do anything about laundering or loose credit, and how arrogant the hyper-rich immigrating to Van are.

Anyway I'd like to thank this thread for giving me some perspective on the Canadian housing situation over the past couple years. I might've considered applying to jobs in Vancouver if I hadn't known what a clusterfuck it is.

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

𒃻 𒌓𒁉𒋫 𒆷𒁀𒅅𒆷
𒆠𒂖 𒌉 𒌫 𒁮𒈠𒈾𒅗 𒂉 𒉡𒌒𒂉𒊑


eXXon posted:

Are we already revising history to claim that CI was all aboard the "Chinese money laundering is fueling the housing bubble" train because he was adamantly against that idea for years and if he somehow changed his mind in the last few months it was hard to tell since 90% of his posts were lovely one-liners.

Yeah he was definitely going after anyone who said it was Chinese money early on. To his credit he made a very clear statement that he was wrong at one point. I am not happy he's banned, especially for that post.

Baronjutter posted:

Oh yeah, I'm personally glad I didn't buy because even after tracking the specific condos we were looking at back then they haven't appreciated quite enough to justify it, and we want a place to live, not invest in, what matters is what it's worth in 10 years or 15 years from now, not the paper gains you'd have made in hindsight if you bought in and sold out at the perfect moments.

Victoria condos were never part of the bubble. Even Vancouver condos weren't until the last two years. But now old condos that were $200,000 in my area two years ago are at least $400k, like this piece of poo poo: https://www.rew.ca/properties/R2244720/210-252-w-2nd-street-north-vancouver-bc

Claes Oldenburger
Apr 23, 2010

Metal magician!
:black101:

UnfortunateSexFart posted:

Yeah he was definitely going after anyone who said it was Chinese money early on. To his credit he made a very clear statement that he was wrong at one point. I am not happy he's banned, especially for that post.


Victoria condos were never part of the bubble. Even Vancouver condos weren't until the last two years. But now old condos that were $200,000 in my area two years ago are at least $400k, like this piece of poo poo: https://www.rew.ca/properties/R2244720/210-252-w-2nd-street-north-vancouver-bc

Did Victoria condos ever rise much? I was under the impression most of the price increase in Vic/Nanaimo/Kelowna was from people cashing out in the GVRD and retiring/re-settling there.

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UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

𒃻 𒌓𒁉𒋫 𒆷𒁀𒅅𒆷
𒆠𒂖 𒌉 𒌫 𒁮𒈠𒈾𒅗 𒂉 𒉡𒌒𒂉𒊑


Claes Oldenburger posted:

Did Victoria condos ever rise much? I was under the impression most of the price increase in Vic/Nanaimo/Kelowna was from people cashing out in the GVRD and retiring/re-settling there.

Prices are going up for sure but a comparable place is about 50% cheaper than Vancouver, in general.

UnfortunateSexFart fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Mar 8, 2018

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